2CD - LIVE OVER EUROPE - Content, Pre-order info etc - Genesis News Com Forum

**Christian** · 10-21-2007, 06:38 PM

Genesis will release another Live-Album in November

Live Over Europe - 2CD Release Dates:
Germany: 23rd November 2007
UK/Europe: 26th November 2007
North America: 27th November 2007

The double album will be released as a Special Edition and a Standard Edition. There's no bonus disc (as of 21st oct), the Special Edition will most likely have a different packaging.

Special Edition - Pre-order at: (dead links indicate pre-orders are not yet available)
amazon-uk | hmv-uk | play-com | amazon-fr | amazon-de | jpc-de | amazon-com | cduniverse

Standart Version - Pre-order at: (dead links indicate pre-orders are not yet available)
The standart version has been deleted and will not be released!

Tracks on the 2CD and where they were recorded:

CD1
01 Duke's Intro (Behind The Lines / Duke’s End) > MANCHESTER 7.7.
02 Turn It On Again > AMSTERDAM 1.7.
03 No Son Of Mine > AMSTERDAM 1.7.
04 Land Of Confusion > HELSINKI 11.6.
05 In The Cage / The Cinema Show / Duke’s Travels > MANCHESTER 7.7.
06 Afterglow > MANCHESTER 7.7.
07 Hold On My Heart > HANNOVER 23.6.
08 Home By The Sea / Second Home By The Sea > DÜSSELDORF 27.6. / ROME 14.7.
09 Follow You Follow Me > PARIS 30.6.
10 Firth Of Fifth (Excerpt) > MANCHESTER 7.7.
11 I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe) > MANCHESTER 7.7.

CD2
01 Mama > FRANKFURT 5.7.
02 Ripples > PRAGUE 20.6.
03 Throwing It All Away > PARIS 30.6.
04 Domino > ROME 14.7.
05 Conversations With Two Stools (Drum Duet) > MUNICH 10.7.
06 Los Endos > LONDON 8.7.
07 Tonight Tonight Tonight (Excerpt) > ROME 14.7.
08 Invisible Touch > ROME 14.7.
09 I Can’t Dance > MUNICH 10.7.
10 Carpet Crawlers > MANCHESTER 7.7.

**Christian** · 10-23-2007, 11:46 AM

The Special Edition will be a Digipak, the Standard Edition a simple Jewel-Box

Squonkman · 10-23-2007, 07:25 PM

so there's no content difference between the 'special' edition and the standard edition, just the packaging? That is kind of a waste, why not throw something extra in there to distinguish them more, even a DVD teaser from the Rome show or a song or two on video from Dusseldorf, to make it more of a collector's item. Do I have to run the Hit and Run marketing department for them too?

AeroZach · 10-24-2007, 04:57 AM

I converted the pricing from pounds to dollars. As soon as this gets released to the States it will be $24.99.

Screw that, I'll take my chances with the DVD first. Especially since I'll be concerned about the Encore series first and foremost as it is.

davey0001 · 11-13-2007, 02:52 PM

I personally can't believe that they're using Manchester for "I Know what I like" - I was at Manchester and Rome and the Rome performance was brilliant.
The Rome crowd was very very loud singing along whereas Manchester wasn't the same.

Squonkman · 11-13-2007, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davey0001

I personally can't believe that they're using Manchester for "I Know what I like" - I was at Manchester and Rome and the Rome performance was brilliant.
The Rome crowd was very very loud singing along whereas Manchester wasn't the same.

the solution there is to get the Rome encore CD

**Christian** · 11-17-2007, 10:27 AM

The Standart version was now deleted and will not be released. That means the SPecial Edition has become the standart edition and will not be limited!

Danlaw83 · 11-18-2007, 07:48 AM

Wow, that's weird, any specific reason why?

**martinus** · 11-18-2007, 09:26 AM

Perhaps the management decided that the clientele might have a tad less money available this year after having spent it all for concert tickets, two remaster boxsets, Chapter & Verse and saving some for the DVD?

I think the decision to skip the normal edition and only release the Edition Formerly Known As Special also has to do with dropping CD sales. Not just for Genesis. I just read an article about that, and they said that these days 50,000 sold CDs per week can almost guarantee you the #1 spot in the German charts and that nowadays it was virtually impossible to sell more than a million CDs of any new release in the US. So why split sales between a normal and a special edition?

Squonkman · 11-20-2007, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martinus

Perhaps the management decided that the clientele might have a tad less money available this year after having spent it all for concert tickets, two remaster boxsets, Chapter & Verse and saving some for the DVD?

I think the decision to skip the normal edition and only release the Edition Formerly Known As Special also has to do with dropping CD sales. Not just for Genesis. I just read an article about that, and they said that these days 50,000 sold CDs per week can almost guarantee you the #1 spot in the German charts and that nowadays it was virtually impossible to sell more than a million CDs of any new release in the US. So why split sales between a normal and a special edition?

or maybe they read my post #3 here and realized there was not a heckuva lot of difference between the two without any further bonus materials to distinguish them

10-21-2007, 06:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
Christian Administrator Site Admin Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dresden, Germany Posts: 445	2CD - LIVE OVER EUROPE - Content, Pre-order info etc Genesis will release another Live-Album in November *Live Over Europe* - 2CD Release Dates: Germany: 23rd November 2007 UK/Europe: 26th November 2007 North America: 27th November 2007 The double album will be released as a Special Edition and a Standard Edition. There's no bonus disc (as of 21st oct), the Special Edition will most likely have a different packaging. Special Edition - Pre-order at: (dead links indicate pre-orders are not yet available) amazon-uk \| hmv-uk \| play-com \| amazon-fr \| amazon-de \| jpc-de \| amazon-com \| cduniverse Standart Version - Pre-order at: (dead links indicate pre-orders are not yet available) The standart version has been deleted and will not be released! Tracks on the 2CD and where they were recorded: *CD1* 01 Duke's Intro (Behind The Lines / Duke’s End) > MANCHESTER 7.7. 02 Turn It On Again > AMSTERDAM 1.7. 03 No Son Of Mine > AMSTERDAM 1.7. 04 Land Of Confusion > HELSINKI 11.6. 05 In The Cage / The Cinema Show / Duke’s Travels > MANCHESTER 7.7. 06 Afterglow > MANCHESTER 7.7. 07 Hold On My Heart > HANNOVER 23.6. 08 Home By The Sea / Second Home By The Sea > DÜSSELDORF 27.6. / ROME 14.7. 09 Follow You Follow Me > PARIS 30.6. 10 Firth Of Fifth (Excerpt) > MANCHESTER 7.7. 11 I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe) > MANCHESTER 7.7. CD2 01 Mama > FRANKFURT 5.7. 02 Ripples > PRAGUE 20.6. 03 Throwing It All Away > PARIS 30.6. 04 Domino > ROME 14.7. 05 Conversations With Two Stools (Drum Duet) > MUNICH 10.7. 06 Los Endos > LONDON 8.7. 07 Tonight Tonight Tonight (Excerpt) > ROME* 14.7.* 08 Invisible Touch > ROME* 14.7.* 09 I Can’t Dance > MUNICH* 10.7.* 10 Carpet Crawlers > MANCHESTER* 7.7.* __________________ cheers CHRISTIAN FORUM Admin *GENESIS - When In Rome* 2007 Pre-order 3-DVD Set amazon-uk \| play-com \| amazon-com \| cduniverse CURRENT POLLS** Vote for your 3 favorite Genesis Albums \| Which Shows will you see have you seen in North America? Vote here Last edited by Christian : 11-17-2007 at 10:26 AM.

10-23-2007, 11:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
Christian Administrator Site Admin Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dresden, Germany Posts: 445	The Special Edition will be a Digipak, the Standard Edition a simple Jewel-Box __________________ cheers CHRISTIAN FORUM Admin *GENESIS - When In Rome* 2007 Pre-order 3-DVD Set amazon-uk \| play-com \| amazon-com \| cduniverse CURRENT POLLS** Vote for your 3 favorite Genesis Albums \| Which Shows will you see have you seen in North America? Vote here

10-24-2007, 04:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
AeroZach GNC Forum User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lockport, IL Posts: 463	I converted the pricing from pounds to dollars. As soon as this gets released to the States it will be $24.99. Screw that, I'll take my chances with the DVD first. Especially since I'll be concerned about the Encore series first and foremost as it is. __________________ www.myspace.com/zeke5150 Genesis Shows Attended: October 2, 2007 Chicago, IL (United Center) October 4, 2007 Chicago, IL (United Center) "This is different. We're not supporting an album or product. This is just for fun. We don't have to do this. It's just for fun." -Phil Collins, on 97.9 the Loop, 10/2/07

11-13-2007, 02:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
davey0001 GNC Forum User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 14	Ikwil I personally can't believe that they're using Manchester for "I Know what I like" - I was at Manchester and Rome and the Rome performance was brilliant. The Rome crowd was very very loud singing along whereas Manchester wasn't the same.

11-17-2007, 10:27 AM	#7 (permalink)
Christian Administrator Site Admin Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dresden, Germany Posts: 445	The Standart version was now deleted and will not be released. That means the SPecial Edition has become the standart edition and will not be limited! __________________ cheers CHRISTIAN FORUM Admin *GENESIS - When In Rome* 2007 Pre-order 3-DVD Set amazon-uk \| play-com \| amazon-com \| cduniverse CURRENT POLLS** Vote for your 3 favorite Genesis Albums \| Which Shows will you see have you seen in North America? Vote here

10-23-2007, 07:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
Squonkman Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: in a gutter getting kicked over and over Posts: 1,410	so there's no content difference between the 'special' edition and the standard edition, just the packaging? That is kind of a waste, why not throw something extra in there to distinguish them more, even a DVD teaser from the Rome show or a song or two on video from Dusseldorf, to make it more of a collector's item. Do I have to run the Hit and Run marketing department for them too?

11-18-2007, 07:48 AM	#8 (permalink)
Danlaw83 GNC Forum User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jersey Posts: 2,105	Wow, that's weird, any specific reason why? __________________ ~DaN "After all, you're not what you thought you were at all You're just a natural fact, another Cul-De-Sac On nature's hard unfeeling trail" http://www.prestonandsteverock.com

11-18-2007, 09:26 AM	#9 (permalink)
martinus Administrator Site Admin Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 876	Perhaps the management decided that the clientele might have a tad less money available this year after having spent it all for concert tickets, two remaster boxsets, Chapter & Verse and saving some for the DVD? I think the decision to skip the normal edition and only release the Edition Formerly Known As Special also has to do with dropping CD sales. Not just for Genesis. I just read an article about that, and they said that these days 50,000 sold CDs per week can almost guarantee you the #1 spot in the German charts and that nowadays it was virtually impossible to sell more than a million CDs of any new release in the US. So why split sales between a normal and a special edition? __________________ Great things are afoot (38.73%) ... cried a voice in the crowd . My tradelist: http://de.geocities.com/gardenwall75/

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