Re-arrange Genesis albums

1st Official Post

    This is a revival of a thread someone started on the previous incarnation of the forum. The idea was that, as a purely fantasy exercise, you take an album and suggest an alternative version of it, using at least one non-album track from the same sessions, including at least one bit of re-sequencing, and removing at least one track from the released version.


    We'll take it as read that many here will say they wouldn't want to change anything about any of the albums, which is fair enough. It's just meant as an enjoyably pointless thing to do. On the other hand it could genuinely be your view of how the album could have been better, and a chance to imagine a parallel reality where that track you've always disliked has vanished from the album. But overall, it's just intended to be a suggestion of a different version of the album.


    Some examples of my own (with a blank line to indicate the division between sides 1 and 2 on vinyl):


    Invisible Touch could be:


    Do The Neurotic

    Land of Confusion

    Domino

    Throwing It All Away


    Tonight Tonight Tonight

    In Too Deep

    Invisible Touch

    The Brazilian


    Foxtrot:


    Watcher Of The Skies

    Horizons

    Can-Utility

    Twilight Alehouse


    Supper's Ready


    Abacab:


    Abacab

    No Reply At All

    Keep It Dark

    You Might Recall


    Me & Sarah Jane

    Naminanu

    Dodo/Lurker

    Submarine


    Footnote to this one: the 3x3 EP would then be:


    Paperlate

    Who Dunnit

    Like It Or Not

    Me & Virgil


    - with Man On The Corner/Another Record as a non-album single.


    ATTWT:


    Motherlode

    Ballad of Big

    Vancouver

    Burning Rope

    Say It's Alright Joe


    The Lady Lies

    Many Too Many

    The Day The Light Went Out

    Follow You Follow Me

    Down & Out

    Abandon all reason

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    I'll just focus on Trick, my favorite. Same songs, I would have loved at least one more song but It's Yourself is imo very weak particularly when compared with the rest of the album.

    I'll start with Volcano, great opener the only other feasible candidate would be Squonk but if it ain't broken....

    Next Ripples, followed R,A&B. Closing Side one with Entangled.

    Side two begins with Squonk and in case there are no sides, Entangled's mellotron coda flows beautifully into the first chords of Squonk.

    Then MMM, followed by the title track and closing with the only possible, sublime option: Los Endos.

    DOAV

    Ripples

    R,A&B

    Entangled

    Squonk

    MMM

    TOTT

    LOs Endos

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    i have burned me a personal „EP“ of this suite.

    Well done - for my part, I've included it in that sequence as part of my Genesis compilation; see the 'Your Best Of Genesis' thread elsewhere. I love Submarine, a very simple and atmospheric track. I often wished they'd introduced some real unpredictability into their live sets and included something like this from time to time.

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    I did this for IT back on the old forum:


    Anything She Does

    Tonight, Tonight, Tonight

    Land Of Confusion

    Do The Neurotic (full version)


    Invisible Touch

    Feeding The Fire

    Domino

    Throwing It All Away



    The other albums I've always liked the way they were ordered. A possible Abacab for me would have been:


    Abacab

    No Reply At All

    Me And Sarah Jane

    Keep It Dark

    Naminanu


    Dodo/Lurker

    Submarine

    You Might Recall

    Man On The Corner

    Like It Or Not

    Another Record (I never understood the hate for the last two songs - of course, they are far from the best songs they ever recorded, but they aren't as awful as some think either)


    (yes, this makes for a long Abacab, but they were no strangers to giving those who mastered records a challenging time - they had so many songs then they could have considered a double album too w/ all the 3 x 3 tracks added)



    Even thought it's my favorite Genesis album, I've even wondered about this potential "Wind And Wuthering":


    Eleventh Earl Of Mar

    One For The Vine

    Your Own Special Way (another song where I never understood the hate)

    Please Don't Touch (Steve really wanted the G version of this to be on W&W)


    Inside And Out

    Blood On The Rooftops

    Unquiet Slumbers For The Sleepers

    In That Quiet Earth

    Afterglow


    (I know there are some who really like "All In A Mouse's Night", but I'm not the biggest fan - musically, it's great; lyrically, umm...)



    Without putting a full ordering, it would have been nice to have "It's Yourself" on ATOTT, and for "Twilight Alehouse" to have found a home on an album too.

    Stepping out the back way, hoping nobody sees...

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    Hmmm, never quite sure what to do with W&W in this respect as it's so low on my list and I only really like two or three tracks on the released version. But after mulling it over:


    Eleventh Earl Of Mar

    One For The Vine

    Blood on the Rooftops


    Pigeons

    Unquiet Slumbers For The Sleepers

    In That Quiet Earth

    Afterglow

    Inside & Out


    Trick would be:


    Dance

    It's Yourself (the full second half minus the Los Endos intro bit)

    Squonk

    Entangled


    Trick

    Ripples

    It's Yourself (part 1, segueing into)

    Los Endos


    - obviously some creative re-titling would need to be done for the two bits of IY.

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    I put together a shortened version of We Can't Dance, as if it had been released in the LP era. I think it works quite well:


    No Son of Mine

    Driving the Last Spike

    Never a Time

    Living Forever


    Hold on my Heart

    Way of the World

    On the Shoreline

    Fading Lights


    It can't really be called WCD any more because it doesn't contain the ICD monstrosity. I call it "Fading Lights"

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    It can't really be called WCD any more because it doesn't contain the ICD monstrosity. I call it "Fading Lights"

    Wasn't the album's working title Father & Son? Could that be a possible contender for your non-non-dancing version?


    Since being on these forums, it's really dawned on me that many fans really hate ICD. A "monstrosity" - my word! Me, I don't mind it.

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    Wasn't the album's working title Father & Son? Could that be a possible contender for your non-non-dancing version?


    Since being on these forums, it's really dawned on me that many fans really hate ICD. A "monstrosity" - my word! Me, I don't mind it.

    Father And Son and Moments In Time. Both pretty awful, I thought. As for I Can't Dance, I love it.


    As for re-sequencing albums with extra tracks and changing the order of the songs, I've done it with a few Genesis albums but, as I never omit songs, I can't really put my suggested track lists here.

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    Father And Son and Moments In Time. Both pretty awful, I thought. As for I Can't Dance, I love it.


    As for re-sequencing albums with extra tracks and changing the order of the songs, I've done it with a few Genesis albums but, as I never omit songs, I can't really put my suggested track lists here.

    "Moments In Time"? Bloody hell. I never heard that one before. That's appalling. It sounds like one of those mood-muzak compilations. ICD has a nicely sparse, kind of gritty feel that I quite like.


    Ah, go ahead and list your resequenced versions if you feel like it. I'd be intrigued to see them.

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    Quote from Backdrifter

    "Moments In Time"? Bloody hell. I never heard that one before. That's appalling. It sounds like one of those mood-muzak compilations. ICD has a nicely sparse, kind of gritty feel that I quite like.


    Ah, go ahead and list your resequenced versions if you feel like it. I'd be intrigued to see them.

    It's mentioned in the No Admittance documentary. And I think you're spot-on; it does indeed sound like it would be better suited to an album of muzak :)


    Okay, here's my re-sequenced and remixed Invisible Touch:


    Invisible Touch*

    Land Of Confusion*

    Feeding The Fire

    Tonight Tonight Tonight*

    In Too Deep

    Anything She Does*

    Domino*

    Do The Neurotic

    I'd Rather Be You*

    Throwing It All Away

    The Brazilian*


    *indicates remix

    Calling All Stations:


    Disc One

    Calling All Stations*

    Congo*

    Shipwrecked*

    Alien Afternoon*

    Not About Us*

    The Dividing Line*

    The Banjo Man*

    Phret*

    If That's What You Need*


    Disc Two

    Sign Your Life Away

    Anything Now*

    Papa He Said*

    7/8*

    Nowhere Else To Turn*

    Run Out Of Time*

    Small Talk

    Uncertain Weather*

    There Must Be Some Other Way*

    One Man's Fool*

    My take on Duke:


    Behind the Lines

    Duchess

    Guide Vocal

    Turn It On Again

    Alone Tonight

    Cul-De-Sac


    Misunderstanding

    Man Of Our Times

    Evidence Of Autumn

    Duke’s Travels

    Duke’s End

    Heathaze

    My take on Duke:


    Behind the Lines

    Duchess

    Guide Vocal

    Cul-de-Sac

    Man of our Times

    Open Door


    Turn it on again

    Evidence Of Autumn

    Alone Tonight

    Heathaze

    Duke’s Travels

    Duke’s End



    This would definitely be my third favorite album, after Trick and SEBTP.






    No Misunderstanding or Please Don't Ask? Quelle surprise :rolleyes:

    I think that this would be my definitive Invisible Touch playlist (I have this playlist in Apple Music):


    A1 Land of Confusion

    A2 Tonight, Tonight, Tonight

    A3 Invisible Touch

    A4 Do The Neurotic


    B1 Anything She Does

    B2 Domino

    B3 Feeding The Fire

    B4 The Brazilian


    Curious what you think of this list...

    We had very similar impulses on IT (scroll up for mine). Our order is different, but we chose all the same songs - the one difference is that I kept "Throwing It All Away" and you kept "The Brazilian".

    Stepping out the back way, hoping nobody sees...

    Quote from OneForTheVine

    We had very similar impulses on IT (scroll up for mine). Our order is different, but we chose all the same songs - the one difference is that I kept "Throwing It All Away" and you kept "The Brazilian".

    I've rearranged the sides so that on both sides the second track (A2 and B2) are the long ones and that the last one (A4 and B4) is an instrumental one.

    I'm currently re-arranging The Lamb (sacrilege!) to include some of the mini-instrumentals they played on the tour, such as the piece they played before The Lamia. There are pieces on The Lamb that could've gone on a bit longer (imagine Hairless Heart with a rip-roaring Hackett solo at the end) so I'm using what's available (the Headley Grange tapes, the alternative mixes etc.). It is, in every way, a labour of love.