TotW 11/03/2018 - 11/09/2018: GENESIS - Stagnation

  • What do you think about "Stagnation"? 20

    1. 15 points - outstanding! (11) 55%
    2. 14 points - very good (3) 15%
    3. 13 points - very good - (3) 15%
    4. 12 points - good + (1) 5%
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    6. 08 points - satisfactory (1) 5%
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    GENESIS - Stagnation

    Year: 1970

    Album: Trespass [album review]

    Working title: unknown

    Credits: Banks, Gabriel, Phillips. Rutherford

    Lyrics: Yes

    Length: 8:46

    Musicians: Tony Banks, Peter Gabriel, Anthony Phillips, Mike Rutherford, John Mayhew

    Played Live: 1970, 1971, 1972

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    Cover versions: none


    Notes: The early period of the band had a number of outstanding tracks that made the band popular - especially when they were played live. Some of those songs, e.g. The Light, have never been released officially. Others ended up on Trespass or Nursery Cryme. Stagnation is perhaps the blueprint for the progressive phase of Genesis.




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    ...cried a voice in the crowd.


  • The leap from FGTR to this is staggering and the structure of this set the tone and direction for the next few albums. Mayhew’s drumming is actually very sympathetic and although Collins improved upon it (as he always did) in the later version it’s not a massive improvement. The flute sounds perfect for this track as well. A very mature piece for such youngsters and I think the standout track on a key album

  • My favorite TRESPASS track.


    On the old Genesis board I once cited it as containing my "favorite note" in a Genesis song: that very low "aaaaaah" at the end of the quiet instrumental section, helping to build tension to be released by the louder part. (I always wonder who sang it.)


    Some of you may have heard the early BBC version, where the familiar ending section ("so let us drink") is missing, and instead there's a louder version of the vocal melody from the beginning of the song.

    Most of what I really needed to know in life, nobody ever told me, and reality had to force it into my skull slowly and relentlessly until I couldn't ignore it any more. And, indeed, most people who had it explained to them to would angrily argue against it.

  • As a young listener in my teens listening to Trespass the first few times, I was immediately drawn to the exhilarating power of The Knife.

    But it didn’t take long for my focus to be lured by Stagnation which I felt had more depth and was far more intriguing of a track.

    To this day, Stagnation is not only my favourite song off Trespass, but easily among my Top 10 of all of Genesis.


  • Please raise a glass with me:


    Stagnation

    "She looks at me and gently smiles, as if she knew I'd ask her all the time..."

  • Lots of idea some of them a bit out of focus perhaps, some of the bits sound underdeveloped, some others overplayed, I personally chalk it up to their obvious inexperience. Still some brilliance definitely shines through and I love the general atmosphere. 11 points for me, 12 if I am feeling very nostalgic. I have a soft spot for Trespass.