593, to be exact. For the record, I am pro science and pro vax. However, I can't very nervous when I see corporations take such draconian measures. I can't imagine these kinds of actions won't end up as class action lawsuits but I"m not a lawyer....
I get very nervous....
593, to be exact. For the record, I am pro science and pro vax. However, I can't very nervous when I see corporations take such draconian measures. I can't imagine these kinds of actions won't end up as class action lawsuits but I"m not a lawyer....
To be clear, I thought the actions I 'read' in the misread version were harsh (setting fire to the workers). I think the actions that i subsequently read when I actually opened my eyes (firing the workers) is perfectly ok.
To be clear, I thought the actions I 'read' in the misread version were harsh (setting fire to the workers). I think the actions that i subsequently read when I actually opened my eyes (firing the workers) is perfectly ok
This is happening more and more in the US, i.e., threatening to fire unvaccinated workers or actually planning to do so. I can see a major shit storm brewing on the horizon; this will not go down smoothly.
This is happening more and more in the US, i.e., threatening to fire unvaccinated workers or actually planning to do so. I can see a major shit storm brewing on the horizon; this will not go down smoothly.
You may be right, and at some stage there will be a test case against an employer. As long as it gets appropriately thrown out by the judge, vaccine uptake increases and the pandemic comes under control, I think the shit storm will be limited to a few red-faced bug-eyed conservatives on NewsMax shrieking outrage.
Of course the judiciary is quite heterogeneous with an overall conservative tilt so it might not go down that way, and an employer might inappropriately be told "you can't do that".
On the flip side, watch for a test case of someone bringing a case against an employer for allowing unvaccinated employees. This would be trickier but not impossible, and more feasible the longer the pandemic goes on. See this story for a big-picture view of why going unvaccinated and moreover allowing/facilitating unvaccinatedness in a pandemic is a bad idea: https://twitter.com/summerbren…/1442806675325476867?s=19
593, to be exact. For the record, I am pro science and pro vax. However, I can't very nervous when I see corporations take such draconian measures. I can't imagine these kinds of actions won't end up as class action lawsuits but I"m not a lawyer....
In the US, the EEOC has ruled that vaccine mandates by private companies are legal and enforceable. The caveats are for legit medical and religious reasons. As I see it, if a bakery can refuse to bake a cake for a couple because they’re gay (the Supreme Court said that was constitutional) then a company should be able to require vaccines for the sake of the safety of all employees at the facility.
In the US, the EEOC has ruled that vaccine mandates by private companies are legal and enforceable. The caveats are for legit medical and religious reasons. As I see it, if a bakery can refuse to bake a cake for a couple because they’re gay (the Supreme Court said that was constitutional) then a company should be able to require vaccines for the sake of the safety of all employees at the facility.
Hi MK. I"m not debating the point, I'm just saying that the fallout, given how polarized the US is politically, will not be gentle, regardless of political decisions. That was all I wanted to raise.
Hi MK. I"m not debating the point, I'm just saying that the fallout, given how polarized the US is politically, will not be gentle, regardless of political decisions. That was all I wanted to raise.
I think that's sadly a pretty safe bet, given how super-heated this and related issues (masks, lockdowns) have become over the last year.
Hi MK. I"m not debating the point, I'm just saying that the fallout, given how polarized the US is politically, will not be gentle, regardless of political decisions. That was all I wanted to raise.
Sorry if I came off as questioning your point. It’s not what I intended at all. I don’t doubt for a second that lawsuits are on the horizon. The point I was trying to make is that it would seem from a legal standpoint they lack merit. I agree 100% about polarization and tribalism in US politics. I teach political science and as I often tell my students 1968 was the worst year in my lifetime for politics until the current era came along.
Wtf is happening in the US.
One comment I just saw from an American woman: "My country views me as just an incubator. We're less important than guns."
Wtf is happening in the US.
One comment I just saw from an American woman: "My country views me as just an incubator. We're less important than guns."
Republicans.... 'government should never interfere in people's private lives. Until we stack the Supreme Court and tell it what to do'.
Anyone who claims SCOTUS is not 'government' is wrong. It is the judicial branch.
As for the 'states should decide' stuff I have never understood this argument Half the states want to be a fundamentalist Christian theocracy. They are at odds with what 'the union' is supposed to represent.
As for the striking down of a century old gun control law, the woman you quote is absolutely correct. Inanimate pieces of metal have more rights in the US than an entire human sex.
Wtf is happening in the US.
One comment I just saw from an American woman: "My country views me as just an incubator. We're less important than guns."
I am embarrassed that I live here. It is trying to outdo itself as one of the most cringeworthy shitholes in the history of shitholes that would make one cringe.
Many on Twitter have pointed out in various veiled ways that guns are very unregulated now, so there may be an impolite solution to this.
I am driven to the point that I completely agree with them.
Our highest legal minds must be just that...high as a kite...sick bastards
Wtf is happening in the US.
One comment I just saw from an American woman: "My country views me as just an incubator. We're less important than guns."
I was so enraged by the school shooting that I applied for a job in Ottawa. Still waiting to hear. Then this shit with those mindless cunts on the so-called supreme court happens. I have three little kids and two daughters. There are probably 200 countries I'd rather live in than this fucking dump.
I live in a lovely town. I work with great people. But fuck the stupid fucking US of fucking A, it's a fucking cesspit that has no hope of forward progress unless a photographic negative of the 60s happens (substitute JFK, Malcolm X, RFK and MLK with whoever you want from rancid line up of moth brained quisling fucktards including the soulless SCOTUS vampires currently fucking the country up the ass so their dark money bitch masters can keep funnelling blood dollars into their bank accounts).
Thank christ for alcohol and music.
Our highest legal minds must be just that...high as a kite...sick bastards
And now that scumbag lowlife Thomas, he with the sedition-supporting wife, hints that they'll be coming after contraception, gay marriage rights and the right to privacy between consenting adults.
When these kinds of decisions are made in the US it can create a mindset that ripples far and wide.
As for the striking down of a century old gun control law, the woman you quote is absolutely correct. Inanimate pieces of metal have more rights in the US than an entire human sex.
Yes, thus removing restrictions on the concealed carrying of weapons outside the home. WHY? How does that help people?
Effectively, a one week old foetus now has more right to life than a ten year old schoolkid! Bizarre! I've never understood the anti-abortionist stance, no-one is telling them to have an abortion, please extend the same courtesy back, and don't tell others not to have one. It's none of your business. If it offends God, he will let you know when you meet him.
As I understand it, Utah is eagerly leaping on this to immediately criminalise abortion. I just saw the comment by GOP Utah lawmaker Karianne Lisonbee in response to criticism of this development: "I trust women to control the intake of semen."
I was wondering what to write here but I'm genuinely lost for words.
Yes, thus removing restrictions on the concealed carrying of weapons outside the home. WHY? How does that help people?
These decisions are calculated and are meant to pump up the radical right in the hopes that they will turn out in droves at the polls on voting day. It'll probably work too. The radical left is just as guilty of stoking the fire within their base as well. The voting public needs to come to the center of their party's values in order for the U.S. to ever see what we used to consider normal ever again. And yes, the world is watching. Autocrats and dictators around the globe are drooling as they mastermind their own brand of evil, based solely upon what our government is up to right now. We are no longer united. We are definitely on the fast track to becoming what Trump would define as a shithole country.
The voting public needs to come to the center of their party's values in order for the U.S. to ever see what we used to consider normal ever again.
I used to think like this but I no longer do. The right wing zealots including McConnell, Greene, the SCOTUS judges etc have all so brazenly taken the craziest, most extreme position and made out like it's normal. The effect is to drag the whole frame waaaay over so that what used to be a centrist view (and still is a centrist view in the intelligent, reasonable, sane countries of the world) becomes an extreme position in the opposite direction. It results in people thinking that universal healthcare is an evil, socialist concept, for example. And conversely, that massacring children is the cost of being "free".
I think the only way is to rebalance the scales by fighting dirty, and making as much noise opposing these fucking ghouls as possible. Drag the frame back in the direction it started. They will not compromise. Nor would i. End the filibuster, expand the supreme court, add 12 liberal judges. Actually no, fuck it, add sixty. Then get busy. They think everyone should be allowed have a gun? Ban them all, every single one. They think universal healthcare is bad? Make it completely free at point of access for everyone. They think no one should have abortions? Fuck them, unlimited - free - abortions for all.
And so on. This religious, hateful conservative ideology is an aggressive disease that needs to be smashed, not bartered with.
As I understand it, Utah is eagerly leaping on this to immediately criminalise abortion. I just saw the comment by GOP Utah lawmaker Karianne Lisonbee in response to criticism of this development: "I trust women to control the intake of semen."
I was wondering what to write here but I'm genuinely lost for words.
I think this is designed to be so off the rails that there is simply no coherent counterargument. Mitch McConnell claimed that the US was now more like Spain and France in the wake of Fridays decision, as opposed to China and North Korea.
Malcolm X's speech the ballot or the bullet is relevant.
