All Things Bowie

  • He went right out of fashion by the mid eighties until his Glastonbury performance in 2000. . Never out of fashion with me I hasten to add . That Glastonbury show was one of my "I was there" moments. There I Just had to find an excuse to fit that one in!!

    He certainly became less fashionable, if that's the right word. He returned to no1 singles with Let's Dance but personally I don't like the sequence that began with that album. I think he felt the urge to sort of purge himself with his subsequent Tin Machine phase, back-to-basic rocks and touring in a van to small venues. Some mocked him at the time for that, but I say good for him. He's David Bowie, he should do whatever he feels like!


    Many also look askance at his 90s phase but I really like it, as I generally do all his subsequent work.


    I think you're right in that he had fewer big hit singles than most probably assume. I suppose that perception is partly a consequence of how big a cultural presence and influence he was, and still is.


    If you were at Glasto 2000 you don't need an excuse to mention it, just go ahead. I would.

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  • I don't agree the singles themselves became patchy. If that's how you're describing Beauty and the Beast then I'm afraid I'm going to have to fight you.


    You often see the same archive clips appear over and over. Don't forget that rock music shows were extremely sparse on tv during the 70s so when they featured big names those clips will be endlessly recycled. As you say, it's nevertheless good to see them. One show ran the superb TOTP clip of Jean Genie thought lost until rediscovered 10 years ago.

    That would be a pointless fight - Beauty & the Beast was from the late 70s. I maintain the 80s were patchy, as he released some very good singles then, but none after Absolute Beginners, & some before that weren’t up to the standard of the 1970s unbroken good run that lasted from Changes until Scary Monsters in 1980.


    Re the clips, yes it’s a shame the BBC don’t have any contemporary film of Genesis with sound or vision half as good as their Bowie handful from 1972, leaving us with only those few clips from the early 70s on Youtube that have been immaculately refurbished by devoted fans.

  • That would be a pointless fight - Beauty & the Beast was from the late 70s. I maintain the 80s were patchy, as he released some very good singles then, but none after Absolute Beginners, & some before that weren’t up to the standard of the 1970s unbroken good run that lasted from Changes until Scary Monsters in 1980.

    I misunderstood your 'patchy' comment which I thought referred to the late 70s period I was talking about, but I realise you picked up on my reference to the 80s. As I subsequently said, yes his 80s output is my least favourite.


    Therefore, sorry everyone, the fight is not going to happen. Not yet and not over this at any rate. (I'd win anyway).

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  • I misunderstood your 'patchy' comment which I thought referred to the late 70s period I was talking about, but I realise you picked up on my reference to the 80s. As I subsequently said, yes his 80s output is my least favourite.


    Therefore, sorry everyone, the fight is not going to happen. Not yet and not over this at any rate. (I'd win anyway).

    And it wouldn't be a very gentlemanly victory anyway. :)

    Ian


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  • I have finally listened to the tracks


    The Dylan cover version is quite good, but the Lennon tracks is something I don't really need.

    Nevertheless nice to see some stuff from his archive sees the light of day ...


  • Following on from previous posts here what do people think of his later work? Personally I see his seventies stuff as almost faultless although Heroes was the first album I never got into except the title track .Never keen on SM Let's Dance or Tonight. ( A few songs) I seem to be the only person in the world ( inc. Bowie) that thought NLMD was an improvement. Love Day In Day Out. I thought Tin Machine was brilliant. 1 Outside good and I have developed more and more a liking for BTWN over the years .Earthling brilliant. I lump Hours and Heathen much the same as Ok a good listen with Reality back to great again better for me than Next though still really like it. I think Blackstar was the best thing he did since DD which is my favourite Bowie album. Blackstar was/ just tremendous.

  • Following on from previous posts here what do people think of his later work? Personally I see his seventies stuff as almost faultless although Heroes was the first album I never got into except the title track .Never keen on SM Let's Dance or Tonight. ( A few songs) I seem to be the only person in the world ( inc. Bowie) that thought NLMD was an improvement. Love Day In Day Out. I thought Tin Machine was brilliant. 1 Outside good and I have developed more and more a liking for BTWN over the years .Earthling brilliant. I lump Hours and Heathen much the same as Ok a good listen with Reality back to great again better for me than Next though still really like it. I think Blackstar was the best thing he did since DD which is my favourite Bowie album. Blackstar was/ just tremendous.

    Yes the ground he covered in his 70s output is astonishing. I'd agree with 'almost faultless' - in fact I wouldn't like my favourite artists to be faultless, and none of them are. Interesting about your reaction to Heroes (which I don't share). I do like Scary but I too found myself drifting away during the 80s. However, I might revisit those, ditto Tin Machine which I didn't like much at the time but have a feeling it might have improved on me. But I always liked that he did it, even if the results didn't excite me back then. I absolutely love a track from the 2nd TM album, You Belong In Rock 'N' Roll.


    With Black Tie, at the time I sensed the seeds of an upturn but never returned to that album, so I'd like to go back to it now. I then started to really enjoy his stuff again during the 90s and onwards, I like everything from then until the end.


    EDIT - By the way, what do you chaps think of The Buddha of Suburbia? It seems to be generally well spoken of, but it's one that for some reason I've never become familiar with despite liking the one or two tracks I do know.

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  • Yes the ground he covered in his 70s output is astonishing. I'd agree with 'almost faultless' - in fact I wouldn't like my favourite artists to be faultless, and none of them are. Interesting about your reaction to Heroes (which I don't share). I do like Scary but I too found myself drifting away during the 80s. However, I might revisit those, ditto Tin Machine which I didn't like much at the time but have a feeling it might have improved on me. But I always liked that he did it, even if the results didn't excite me back then. I absolutely love a track from the 2nd TM album, You Belong In Rock 'N' Roll.


    With Black Tie, at the time I sensed the seeds of an upturn but never returned to that album, so I'd like to go back to it now. I then started to really enjoy his stuff again during the 90s and onwards, I like everything from then until the end.


    EDIT - By the way, what do you chaps think of The Buddha of Suburbia? It seems to be generally well spoken of, but it's one that for some reason I've never become familiar with despite liking the one or two tracks I do know.

    BTWN has a laid back jazzy feel . I really like. I have forgotten much of the BUDDA . I enjoyed the series at the time , it's never been repeated. I used to to have the album on cassette and quite enjoyed it but can't remember it much now. One of the things of his I don't have. (My cassette was taped from a tape on tape to tape player! ) No