Posts by Foxtrot

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A few thoughts on the Elmont show.

The venue.

The USB Arena was clean, modern, with seating that had more legroom than anywhere I have been before. The parking logistics were a nightmare. Awful signage around the venue.

Many empty seats. Some entire sections with good sight lines had nobody in them. Too many shows in the NYC area? It was a Friday night, not a Tuesday.

The show.

There seemed to be something lacking tonight. I don’t know if it was a lack of crowd energy that influenced my overall experience, but I felt like the band struggled to get into a groove. Phil seemed to be a step behind on many songs, especially Domino.
On the positive side, they pulled it together for a stellar Afterglow, and Second Home By The Sea was the best I have heard of the three shows I’ve attended.(Charlotte, Philly)

it was still a fun night seeing my favorite band. If it was my first time seeing Genesis since 2007, I’m sure my perception would have been different and not as critical.

Seeing Boston later this week to wrap up my live experience with the band.

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O was speaking to someone in ticketing recently, and they mentioned that empty seats recently fan be chalked up to vaccine/ illness issues. They are getting calls about refunds because of vaccine requirements plus people looking for refunds when people are not feeling welland awaiting covid tests.

a you went brand new arena, that I guess was supposed to be awesome with acoustics. How did it sound.

very nice find thanks. How the hell still have time to write, produce and record Dance Into the Light?

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I was blown away with the set list. I knew 80-90% possible songs but to hear Duchess, Dancing With the Moonlit Knight, and believe it or not that was the first time to hear Afterglow live. I like how they changed the medleys up too. I loved the melodic versions of The Lamb, Follow You Follow Me, and That's all.

Back in '86 I got to hear Supper's Ready prior to them replacing it with Afterglow.

Fantastic show!!!

Cool report. I am sad about missing out on Duchess in Chicago, but The Lamb and Follow you worked! That would have been great to see your 86 show. Great pictures.

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Awesome that you went. Just to be in the building with the boys is better than nothing.

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You nailed it. I had NO idea what the old melody was, even HBTS, Mama, etc. All I knew was IT, WCD, and TIOA. We had NO way of knowing what they played, or where to find it.

Right, me too. I knew about the 70s stuff, but you would never hear it on the radio. Even Mama never got played in the states. From the Shapes album it was that's all, and occasionally Taking It All Too Hard. When I heard the Medley, it was sharp and vivid, and as a musician, it blew my mind listening to FOF and trying to replicate it, btw failing!

So I get why people may not look fondly on the 80s stuff, but it was an opportunity for kids like me dig deeper by the medley.

Lol, now all the songs are the old medley.

I know, I'm watching this thinking the same. I believe the North American tour should be able to finish, but I am concerned for our Euro friends too.

I'll always look at 92 medley fondly, because I was a 16 year old at my first Genesis concert, MTV generation you know. I really liked this new music coming at me I never heard. The screens illuminating DOAV were vivid, the 13 string was sharp, Chester kicked in, and a thrilling vocal from Phil, and from that moment on, I was an all eras fan. It was fun going to these things pre internet called record stores and finding Selling England, because it had 2 songs from the medley on it.

Very fun times starting to dig into PG Genesis and loving what I found.

Great going and Happy Anniversary to our German friends.

Who Dunnit. Real different guys. Think Tony still has that snorkel?

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Phil sounded really good on Mama, the best i've heard so far.

If I have one thing that bugs me about Phil right now, is that he would look a lot better if he actually shaved or just had some stubble, instead of what ever he has going on, as it makes him look worse.

lol. Maybe him and Nic have a beard contest going on.

Chicago says you're welcome for being the guinea pigs!

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Here is night 2 report. Sorry for the long post - but need to put it down while it is in my memory. I'm 51 and have been a fan since 86.

I JUST woke up as I had a 3 1/2 hour drive back to Madison WI.

Night 1 had 15 row with my wife and son, Night 2 I had 2nd row and went alone - centered between Daryl and Mike. Daryl was probably 15 feet away from me. First of all, 2nd row was a different experience than 15 row, I'll say that. I could SEE what Mike and Daryl were playing, and I could hear the 2 vocalists raw - without the mains (PA). Obviously I could hear the raw drum sound as well. I thought I would be able to hear the guitars/bass a bit better as the amps were right there - I could hear them, but the front mains were right in front of us too. Defiantly could hear the guitars more than the keys this time - when I had 15th row the keys were HOT. Not so much from 2nd row.

Daryl playing the pedals was amazing to watch/feel/hear.

The vocalists at the end of Afterglow - they sang all the way to the end and it was fantastic.

Mama had a problem - Tony's keys went out for about 12-16 bars after the interlude - they just waited. It was interesting to see how they rebounded from it - usually when a song goes south, it's very difficult to pick up the pieces and move on. They did a decent job of finishing it off.

Mike loves the 2nd half of Domino.

I never knew Daryl's bass playing at the end of Invisible Touch was so complex - was fun to watch. Mike even came over to watch a bit of it.

Crowd by me was into it - even the older tunes.

Misunderstanding was great - once it started the crowd came alive.

Watching Nic on drums was fantastic, one could tell he was into it mentally and he was on time and I didn't see even one mistake. His rolls are like his dad's, but other ones (like in Cinema show), he plays them different than Phil.

Saw an older couple in front of me, who I'm sure have been fans longer than I have (looked like in the early 70s). They were frail and you could tell tired - one looked like they had chemo at some point. Seeing them come to life and give what they could with clapping and singing, than having to sit down - puts everything into perspective.

Two younger women filed in next to me - they were..maybe 25? My first thought was they were rich and just wanted to be there. Well was I wrong - they knew EVERY LYRIC! Even more than I did - and they knew they drum hits as well. Was fun watching them get into the music so much. Lots of younger people around me - kids in their 20's.

Lots of younger people around me - front row had a few people who were on their phones the whole time (why?), but a couple in their 30's had dead center and they were loving it and the band watched them quite a bit. Talked to them on the way out - they were really nice.

I know Mike saw me a few times during Domino - I was mimicking his guitar swoops during the 2nd part, and he smiled when he saw me and the guy next to me doing it.

But the real moment for me was Second Home by the Sea - my all time favorite. I've probably heard that song over 300 times in my life, it is my favorite musical composition and I never get tired of it. Monday night was great - but being right there seeing them only a few feet from me was worth the $ for the ticket. During the middle of SHBTS right before the solo when the drums do 4 heavy rolls (right when the eyes come on the screen), they are 4 bars that intro into the solo. Daryl was doing a heavy progression on the bass, Nic was pounding the drums and Mike was handling the guitar like he was 30. It was truly magical - there is no better word for it. I felt a brief musical euphoria - know it sounds kind of weird but best way I can describe it.

All in all, it was both a sad occasion - some of us talked about it before the show how it's the end of the band - and US as we are getting older. But at the same time, it was a celebration. Genesis had an amazing run and what else is better than that? As someone else on here said...We'll never see the likes of them again.

Also - these two shows were musically better than the 07 shows. Just sayin

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Love the report. Thank you, and Madison is fantastic. Very moving report. I would have preferred Duchess too, but your report about the elderly couple who was been through a bit and then came to life, hasn't 2020 21 taught us to really enjoy the moment rather than quibble about details that really don't matter in the grand scheme of things. I looked around the crowd several times just trying to absorb it and taking it in knowing that this has been a very difficult time for so many people and it was just great to be with everybody again. Be well.

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Awesome report Foxtrot. Amazing that you got that seat upgrade. Reading your post is getting me even more excited for the show next week. Cheers mate!

Forgot to mention that somewhere during Second Home by the sea I noticed Phils seat was empty. I was concerned and hoping he was all right then I looked at stage left, Phil decided to take a little stroll! He went to the drum Riser and I hung out until the final vocal of second home by the sea. I know ow this is grasping but he seemed to go on and offstage a bit faster then in the past. All wish him the best of health.

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To tag on to what others have said.... It could definitely be the city. It'll be interesting to see whether the crowd reacts similarly in those old Genesis strongholds - Philly, Montreal, Toronto come to mind. There's also a weird age/nostalgia thing potentially kicking in. Those "IT" fans are probably about 50ish nowadays? The "older" fans are very late '50s and '60s. With the pandemic, it's quite possible that the older people (also the ones more likely to have some health issues) just aren't going into crowded spaces yet. Boy, that makes aging sound appealing lol. I'm nearly 59 and I'm still not entirely sure about sitting cheek to cheek with 20000 other people, to be completely honest.

And BTW, it was loud!!! Chicago has been a long Genesis stronghold, much like most of the cities on this tour. But like I said, a lot of people seemed to travel for this gig, so they were invested totally.

Funnily enough, I was more emotional at end of 2007 show. Not that Fading Lights wasn't or anything. For me, it was just a gas seeing the guys again, it was more a joyous celebration than youtubeland, which was more sad for me.

Mask up Bass and 12 man and if you go, let us know.

just got home from second Chicago show and let me tell you, the YouTube videos aren't doing anything justice.

So the range isn't there as before, but Phil was on key, nice pitch, and dare I say hit some tough notes in Throwing it All Alway and Domino.

Couldn't believe how any out of towers there were. Travis from Sacramento, Bill from Milwaukee, a nice couple from Omaha, and Dave from Cedar Rapids, Iowa. All said the same thing, no west shows we are coming out .

Great vibe with age group 40 to 70 for the most part. Nice mix of non white people too. Very cool.

Went with misses, who it's her first Genesis concert, and a convert when I showed her what Album tracks look like.

Had last row seats in the nosebleeds, and then, 20 minutes before the show, we get tickets to the 11th row. Others up top started to join us. So I asked the usher and he said the band releases some tickets based on once they get the stage in there, if there's more space then needed, they go get real fans and say thank you. Was blown away.

Same set as night before...Some quick thoughts...

Nice Collins hit with real power. Got a good look at him and Tony all show and he made SHBTS and Domino into something that we haven't seen live before.

Tony's fingers still can work Cinema Show well.

Daryl owned FOF tonight. His best version yet.

Couple technical keyboard issues when power went out for about a bar, but hey, that's live.

Phil still messes up Home By The Sea lyrics and Domino, but that's been happening since 1986.! He was in great spirits busting Mike and Daryls balls and the voice is pretty darn good, zero embarrassment if people were afraid.

Domino was Intense! Love when Nic clicks those sticks and Tony goes to town.

Acoustic set works. The middle song, not gonna spoil that if you don't know, was different but it worked great. Mama was on point.

Great night, I've got work soon but I'll share more later.

Thank you Genesis

Hey folks,

Just got home from the second Chicago show and the setlist was the same as the first night.

Took a whole day for me to accept no Duchess, but I just thought I was glad to be in the building with Genesis.

Otherwise great show, very loud most of the show, started at 810, ended at 1030, my wife's first Genesis concert and was bowled over.

Hope you all enjoy the shows your scheduled to get to.

These are the days of our lives, so remember.

Not sure how the economics of tours go, but with the cancelations adding up, this tour may not be a giant money maker. No one's fault just life.

Misunderstanding is a fine pop song, but Duchess is a magical song, full of atmosphere and depth. Really bummed.

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Looks like Duchess has been replaced by Misunderstanding

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both are tracks from Duke, from this perspective, it makes sense …

Also, keep in mind everybody is surprised this show is longer than 2 hours anyway.

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Ouch. Each to their own and that, but Duchess was my highlight of the show.

Exactly,

Dear Genesis, excited for the show, but whatever you do, please don't underestimate your American fans that want to hear Duchess. Love you guys no matter what but US fans love Duchess!