Posts by OneForTheVine

    I hope your setlist was as nice as Philly’s (or LA’s - if you have a chance, check out what they played there; if they release a live show from this tour, I hope it’s the LA show).


    Have fun! 😎

    I just found out Suede are playing in the US in November, a headlining tour with the Manics. This is remarkable because Suede aren't that big in the US, and never tour here since their gear was stolen on a tour in the 1990s. I got tickets to see them in a theater in November.

    This would be more appropriate in the “Your Last Gig” thread, but this post is here - so I have to respond here.


    Thank you yet again for your mentioning this Suede tour of the US here. I would have thanked you privately, but your accidental good deed deserves extra praise again in the open! 😊 As I mentioned when you first brought it up here, I had no idea that this tour was coming, and I have been a member of the Suede email list forever!

    Well, the show was a total blinder! Absolutely phenomenal! I eventually got a pit ticket by resale and managed to resell the seated ticket I originally bought - so, all worked out well all around! I was about three feet from the stage, just behind several members of “The Insatiable Ones” UK fanclub. I have never played so much defense in a GA pit before! 😄 I did manage to keep them from damaging me and from spilling their drinks on me (the latter may have been the superior accomplishment). I legitimately got quite a physical workout! 😄 This was a show where they closed instead of the Manic Street Preachers (who also were very good); if you got a ticket for Boston, I think Suede close there too because it’s the Preacher’s turn to close the next show in Brooklyn.


    If you want to know, this is what they played:


    https://www.setlist.fm/setlist…adelphia-pa-63bf9217.html


    So many wonderful songs that I had no idea they would consider playing! You’re in for a great time, and thanks again! 👍

    Ok - starting in April next year and ending in June, TMB is having one final leg of the full Lamb show. The updated dates are here:


    http://www.themusicalbox.net


    I can add two more dates because I got a separate email about them - apparently, the very final two complete Lamb performances ever will be in NYC and literally on Broadway. They will be at the same place (The Palladium) at which they performed back in June of this year. They will be on the 16th and 17th of June, 2023. If you want to see the finale of TMB performing the Lamb in full, this is it!

    Does anybody know if there are any complete page scans of Genesis Tour Programmes on the internet anywhere?

    The reason I ask is that I'm setting up my personal music collection in Kodi and I want to add some unique artwork/fanart to it. I've got hold of disc art and album covers etc from discogs but I thought also having tour programmes would be interesting. It's all for my personal use.


    Thanks in advance for any pointers.

    If you go to this site and go to the “Programs” section, I think you may find what you’re looking for. 😊


    http://www.genesismuseum.com/

    Foxtrot turns 50 these days. We're not 100% sure when exactly, 22nd September seems to be a likely release date, but 100% proof is still missing. If you have such a proof (please don't post Wikipedia links!), please let us know.


    FWIW, Mario Giammetti in his book says the release date for “Foxtrot” was 6th October, 1972. Perhaps he was/is guessing too? 🤷‍♂️ In that date’s favor, both “Chapter & Verse” and Alan Hewitt’s bio of the band say October as well (although I’d only regard the former in any way authoritative).

    The long-hoped-for dates at the Keswick Theater near Philadelphia have been announced: May 5-6, 2023.


    https://www.axs.com/artists/107662/the-musical-box-tickets

    Yes, I just got my ticket this morning for the Saturday show (i.e., the 6th).


    I’m getting the intuitive impression that these may be the very last two shows for their “retirement tour” for The Lamb. If so, then the delay was certainly worth it. (I just wish I had known that they wouldn’t be coming here in 2022; I would have gotten myself a better ticket for the NYC show this past June! 😄)


    So, both shows that I have tickets for so far in 2023 are for Genesis tribute acts: The Genesis Show in January, and TMB in May. I’m sure Steve Hackett will be here again in 2023, and of course I will see him again as well. I must be a Genesis fan. 🤷‍♂️😄

    Oh, by the way, my next gig is Porcupine Tree at The Met (yes, the same Met as mentioned in the previous post). I haven't seen them live since 2009 at Colston Hall in Bristol (See? I even got to see them in England, but not Suede! :rolleyes:^^).


    I wonder if they are back for good or just for this one tour - either way, I am very happy to see them again. :thumbup:

    I just found out Suede are playing in the US in November, a headlining tour with the Manics. This is remarkable because Suede aren't that big in the US, and never tour here since their gear was stolen on a tour in the 1990s. I got tickets to see them in a theater in November.

    Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you for posting this!


    I have now gotten a ticket to see them in Philly in November. I had to do quick investigative work to find the presale password (if you are a fan of one/both bands, go to the Manics website to the tour announcement section for the password). I also found out that they are alternating which band is the closer in each city; fortunately for me, Philadelphia is a city where Suede are the closing act - I'm a MUCH bigger fan of Suede.


    I have been a fan of this band since they released "Coming Up" (1996). The Bernard Butler era is still my favorite (i.e., their albums before "Coming Up" - "Dog Man Star", IMHO, is one of the best albums of the 90s and is still my all-time favorite of theirs); however, I love virtually everything they have ever recorded (I even don't hate "A New Morning", the album that divides opinion the most among the Suede fanbase - it's not their best album, to be sure, but it still has some decent tracks on it).


    As you alluded to, they have not toured here since their single ill-fated tour here back when Bernard was still in the band. (Along with the theft of their gear, another negative about the tour is that they toured here just after Bernard endured the death of his father - this, among other reasons (including the oft-appearing "creative differences"), contributed to his leaving the band.) Thus, I have never seen them live. I even didn't manage to see them when I was living in England (2009 - 2016) - the tickets just sold out too fast. They mostly played London, and, when they ventured further afield, they always played very small places.


    This drought now ends in 2022 - thank goodness! :thumbup:


    I'm a little miffed that the Suede fansite mailing list didn't send out info about the presale; I've been on that for years. If I had gotten the password on time, I would have been in the GA pit for certain! However, I am very, very happy to have an actual ticket to a Suede show happening in North America. Thanks again for mentioning it! 8)

    I'm confused about all this. The SACD boxes play in both surround and stereo on standard players. I thought the CDs issues since then were the stereo version of the SACD. Am I wrong? And box set vinyl re issues? They must be the same mixes as the newer CDs which as I say I thought are the stereo mixes of the SACD. Or is there a difference?

    No - you are correct. They are the same stereo version across the multiple formats.


    What the original poster may be alluding to is that the hybrid SACDs of each album (along with its companion DVD) were once briefly available separately from the boxsets. He just wants the regular single CDs of the albums in question. Those came out a little later and are what are easily found now.

    My favorite TFF album is the Seeds of Love. It’s one of those rare albums that doesn’t have a single song I feel the need to skip over to the next song.

    Different strokes for different folks…I certainly like that album; however, of their first three albums, it’s easily my least favorite. The production on it is a bit too slick for my liking. They played 3 songs from it in concert (in fact, the first 3 songs on the album are the ones they played).


    I expected more from that album, but, as I already mentioned, I was very pleasantly surprised that their debut album got such prominent presence in the setlist.

    True, though I must admit the emphasis on Philly reminds me of the part in the movie Spinal Tap when things are beginning to fall apart for the band and they hang their hat on Philadelphia: “Now Philly, there’s a real rock and roll town” 😂


    Even better was when their manager informs them that the Boston gig was canceled; he, of course, wrongly reassures them that Boston is “not a college town”. :D

    I realized that I forgot to update upcoming shows recently. ^^


    Over the past 10 days, I have seen The Musical Box, Kraftwerk 3D (which was truly excellent), and, just last night, Tears For Fears. They are now off to the UK for their tour there after tonight.


    If you are a fan of the band (TFF, that is), do yourself a favor and see this show - it was outstanding! The new album is a bit mellow, but still very good. Along with the new album, the album that got the 2nd-most songs on the setlist was their debut album, “The Hurting”! This was a bit of a surprise, but a very good one; I like their debut album almost every bit as much as their more-famous “Songs From The Big Chair”. Also, their light show was stunning! So, again, if you’re in the UK and you like them, do yourself a favor and catch a show.

    They don't always play the sam cities, same in Europe. On some tours, they skip locations, on other they are back again. Is most likely linked to logistics.

    Well, of course, that is true. However, there must have been very large logistical problems for them not to have been able to schedule Philadelphia-area shows. Philly is one of the places they enjoy performing the most - all their shows sell out almost instantly and the fan reception is always rapturous. Simply put, they would never not play Philadelphia - they have come here for every tour of theirs, and they always would/will in the future.


    I’m sure they will come before and/or after their Canadian dates in Sept./Oct. I’m just glad I got a ticket for one of the NYC performances - it was outstanding!

    Well, I finally got to see their show last night at the Palladium Times Square in NYC. Yes, TLLDOB performed literally on Broadway (1515 Broadway, to be exact)! 😄


    It was a stellar performance, as usual. Having four days rest before the show must have helped. LOTS of energy from the band. There was another show tonight which should be finishing there as I am writing this. I’m sure it was excellent too.


    I only ended up going to this show because they never announced Philadelphia-area shows for this tour. I’m absolutely certain that they are playing Philadelphia on this tour, but I have very little idea when! 😄 Any shows certainly won’t be on this leg of the tour, which ends this Sunday the 19th.

    So, will they play here before their Canadian tour in September? Will they play here after it in October or November, before they head to Europe? I don’t know. 🤷‍♂️ I’ll just be ready to get tickets when they do.

    Ditto on everyone’s thoughts above.


    One extra thing I noticed from the 2007 boxset remix is how Mike really rocks on the bass on this song, especially near the end of the song. On the albums after “Duke”, he tends to play more traditional rhythm-oriented bass than how he played earlier in his career. However, he lets it rip on “Mama”. If you have a surround system, this is the song where the subwoofer gets a real workout.

    It's a stretch calling ACTA a "studio leftover" since it was just a "bit" that Mike and his co-writers built a song around, rather than an actual leftover song, as some seem to think is was. (I've read a professional review of the first M+M album where the writer assumed that Tony Banks wrote the lyrics to ACTA.)

    Well, you incorrectly “stretched” what I meant by “studio leftover”. ^^ What you spelled out is what I meant by a studio leftover, i.e., a musical idea that was tried out, but ultimately was not completed. If some kind of rough version had ever been anywhere close to completion, I’m sure that some vestige of it would have found its way to the trading community over the many intervening years.


    Yes, the lyrics are interesting to ponder. They do sound a bit Tony-ish, but it wouldn’t be a stretch to think that Mike (with or without further assistance) could have written them too. If they are Tony’s, it would explain why Mike asked Tony and Phil for permission to use the song on the first M&tM album. The original idea for the song was Mike’s in the first place, but if Tony wrote some/most/all of the eventual lyrics, then permission would certainly be needed. (Of course, this begs the question what Phil would have conceivably done with the early development of the idea to require permission being asked, unless that was just a courtesy since they were returning to an “all titles done by all” position.)