Posts by DavetotheB

This one is a lot harder to just choose 3! I feel like I'm slighting a lot of good songs... I went with TIOA, which was my gateway to Genesis music after hearing the TSL version, Dukess Travels (I include Duke's End in that as well-not really sure how you can separate the two) and Duchess. I could have easily gone with BTL but have really been digging Duchess of late. Heathaze is up there but just short of the my top 4. I kind of lump all the rest in the next level except Misunderstanding which I've never really cared for.

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Too lazy to write the same ones out so just quoted this. Seems consistent with others. Overall though I love this album, it's my 2nd favourite after The Lamb. At the time I, alone among genesis fans at school (who acted like I was a heretic), really liked the change of direction, the punchier rhythms and the greater sense of space. In recent years, my respect for it and them increased when I learned they discarded a load of new material as it was sounding too Genesisy and went on to make this album instead. What a great, bold move. I agree with Christian about the importance of this album.

I also agree that Another Record is a very singular track, I have quite a soft spot for it.

I disagree with you DavetotheB that the live versions of the tracks you listed were great. Dodo was OK, but I didn't like the looser swing Thompson brought to it. The tighter, stiffer album version wins it for me. The KID from the Mama tour didn't work in my view, it couldn't really as it lost the percussive complexity that makes the album version sound so rich. M&SJ on 3SL is bordering on a mess and lacks all the atmosphere of the original especially the oomph of that exultant penultimate segment.

But with each successive tour they turned the title track into a great surging piece of rock music with some of my favourite dual drumming. It was the one track that really properly took off live. Odd, considering the nature of the album.

It was a great shame it went unrepresented on the 07 tour, being such a pivotal album.

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To each his own which goes without saying, I suppose. Will agree that Abacab was the best of the live versions.

Tough choices! That could very well change for me in a couple days...

Dodo/Lurker at the top pretty easily. Then it gets murky...Went with Abacab and Keep it Dark. Me and Sarah Jane could have easily been in there. Great live versions for all these songs!

I've always lumped the Home by the Seas together as one song. Those and Mama were my three. I'd throw It's Gonna Get Better in there as the third if not for the technicality...

Domino, Brazilian and TTT for me. I would put Land of Confusion just slightly lower than those probably because of the excellent live performances of this song I've seen. After that it's a pretty steep drop off to the remaining four songs...

Fading Lights and Driving the Last Spike are not negotiable for me. I went with Living Forever as the third, but could have easily done Dreaming While You Sleep or possibly, depending on my mood, No Son of Mine. Seriously though...What other bands at the time could make an album putting an epic song like Driving the Last Spike in between two songs that got ample play on MTV (Jesus He Knows Me and I Can't Dance)? What a band!

Always felt like The Dividing Line was the best track on this album. The power of the music covers for the somewhat cliche lyrics. Always had a soft spot for Congo, number 2. Picked the title track as 3 but could have just as easily gone with Alien Afternoon for it's quirkiness.

Please correct if wrong, but my understanding is that there were a lot of shows on the SEBTP tour where Genesis did not play an encore. On a few occasions, they would play The Knife as an encore but typically Supper's Ready was the last song in the set.

6-6-6 on the dominoes (Supper's Ready)

Winston cigarettes (Broadway Melody)

Razor next to a hairless heart

Charisma label on the bank of England paper

RUSH would be a pretty clear cut 2nd place for me. The next level would include King Crimson and Yes. Then probably ELP, Tull and Peter Gabriel after that.

I this may have been posted somewhere on the forum, but this always brings me joy when I watch it...

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Oh, wow - that's a good band! Do they have a collective name or are they touring under their own names?

Yeah, the name, Keaggy, Levin & Marotta, is a little uninspiring. But the album has a cool name: The Bucket List. It's a genre bending formation to say the least which lends to the excitement I have for this show. Here's a song off the album. It's pretty good.

Phil Keaggy/Tony Levin/Jerry Marotta in March-Sellersville, PA

Kind of a unique song for the band with the power guitar riff driving the song. Abacab comes to mind as similar in that respect, but can't think of a lot of others. That said, I don't really like it all that much but I remember ICD being the most powerful moment of the WCD shows I saw which has always struck me as strange. Maybe it was the crowd energy or the fun-ness of hearing the song with other fans. Can't explain it. Gave it a 6. It was better than a lot of the stuff on the album, but not really a high point for the band IMHO.

Always found Foxtrot to be the most unbalanced of the 70-77 albums (with the exception of the Lamb which is probably due to the volume of material) in that the highs (Supper's) are very high and the lows (Time Table, Friday) are very low. I'd put Can Utility and Watcher on about the same level, both above average songs. I like the Live version of Watcher better which probably speaks to production as has been mentioned. Though I like the album, it's probably my least favorite of the era.

There is a part where Phil sings a different lyric in the live version of ITC. The original lyric is "In a trap, feel a strap. Holding still. Pinned for kill." Not exactly sure what Phil sings in that part but I'm pretty sure it's on both the TSL and Live Over Europe versions of the songs. Does anyone have any info on that? Like what the lyric is, when it originated and why?

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I just got an e-mail about their Philadelphia dates - they are March 22nd/23rd, 2019 at the Keswick Theater in Glenside, PA (close suburb of Philly). Those dates are a Friday/Saturday pairing.

So, keep your ears/eyes open, American fans!

Got tix for the Friday show! Pumped!

Now for the 4 month wait...

Don't judge, but this the first Tony Banks song I've ever heard. As in, I listened to it a few minutes ago. Definitely has a Genesis feel to it, but at the same time not Genesisy enough to be Genesis. Kind of cool to see one third of the band removed and allowed to go about on its own. Interesting origin to the song as well-thanks for the info. No rating given as I'm not really sure what I'm comparing it to. It is, at this point, both the best and worst Tony Banks song I've heard.

I come to this song from a different angle, I guess, in that I heard the version on Hit before I heard the album version. I actually thought the Hit version "was" the album version. What a surprise when I listened to the original! That being said, I feel that the original is over-produced and not anywhere near as powerful as the stripped down version.

This song is actually one of the most powerful songs I've ever heard which is surprising in that it's just piano and voice. The lyrics and the passion with which they are delivered (not to mention the subject matter) nearly move me to tears at times. Because of its power, I actually include this song in my 5K race mixes along with tracks by Rush, Metallica, Pearl Jam and Green Day.

It's a 15 for me.

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YAAAAY!

That means they'll be in my area in either February or March. WOO-HOO!

Ha! I noticed that big blank spot in schedule as well with one NYC area date in the middle. Waiting for Philly area shows to be announced...