Posts by HomeByTheSea

Quote from Art Vandaley

I disagree with much of this. For one thing, “Rush” and “metal” in the same sentence is odd. Secondly, you’re characterizing me as seeing these bands through eyes I’m not seeing. I dont expect Genesis to behave a certain way. Actually I gave examples of different bands handling things differently? I’m merely stating that Genesis has an unusual history and I wish they had a more complete show where the prog era was concerned.

I will stick by my statement that they went pop. It’s a no-brainer. Invisible Touch, Thats All, Follow You, Hold on my Heart, In Too Deep, Tonight, Throwing it All Away, etc….did I miss something? Are those prog songs? I could go on and on listing pop tunes. Do I hate those songs? Nah. Are they pop? Uh, yeah….

If you listen to the interviews of the band on the reissues, they often times were very critical and negative toward the classics and most interviews from the guys are far more glowing and rosy where “the hits” are concerned.

They may have started to write more pop, but they were still producing songs from their progressive roots. To support the point, Duke's Travels/Duke's End, Home By The Sea/Second Home By The Sea, Domino, and Fading Lights are definitely not pop!

Quote from Christian

that's correct - 13 shows were announced initially for NA in 2007

Toronto (BMO Field) was among the first 13 if I remember correctly, but Ottawa was announced 2 or 3 weeks later

I was one of the fortunate few who won tickets to attend the pre-tour rehearsal show in Toronto. It was general seating so I was fortunate to have a front row seat right between Phil and Tony! Ah memories...

Buying tickets for the Cleveland show was not fun because the code and link they gave you put you through to seatgeek. I was able to pay for the tickets I wanted and when my confirmation email came it told me the tickets were not available. Well, this is what the website is supposed to do up front when you choose seats. In fact it chose them for me being best available. So why put me through all that and allow me to pay for them when they were not available? So then I had to go back and do it all over again and of course my seats are not as good. I definitely won't be using seatgeek again if I can help it! However, I am glad I'll be going to the show and not get shut out like other people are trying to secure tickets today through each venue.

I'll be at the Cleveland show. Tempted to get tickets for the Columbus show as well. It's really interesting the band has played two Ohio shows for the last 3-4 tours. That's not bad considering we are only a small population compared to other states they play in twice a tour like California, New York, and Pennsylvania.

Quote from Harold

Great!

But this surprises me - was expecting shows in Europe first.

The shows in Europe are still scheduled first:

Europe: Sept-Oct

NA East: Nov-Dec

This will hold true unless covid numbers rise and cause the band to ppd their tour again.

Quote from melodyof1974

Does anyone know the ticket prices? I'm going no matter what, but do I need to hold off buying a car?

I am on the pre-sale list for Detroit.

A source of mine that has ties to Ticketmaster told me to expect the following:

Floor seats $400-250

Lower bowl $250-200

Upper bowl $200-75

Quote from Christian

When you look at the dates, it's likely that extra shows will be announced when ticket sales justify that.

Chicago, Montreal, Philadelphia, Columbus, Belmont, Boston and New York City seem obvious

Speaking as a fellow Ohio resident, I think the band would add a second Cleveland show before they would add a second Columbus show. Cleveland has always been a city that supported the band on every tour since they started coming to the US. Columbus is a town the band just started visiting since the WCD tour.

Listened to that entire podcast. It had a few good moments, but overall it was average at best. I would love it if someone did a Genesis podcast similar to the Beatle years radio show. Something very in depth about the band only. I subscribe to Tabletop Genesis, which is a good podcast, but they mix in solo. Nothing wrong with that, but I'm not a fan of everyone's output.

Glad this is happening! I'll be ready to go at the Cleveland show!

I would be more than happy to see Genesis start their tour in the US! It would be the first time since the WCD tour they started their tour in the US. I guess with the vaccines being utilized, the infection rates for covid could be down enough for concerts to be taking place. Usually November is the start of virus numbers increasing, but we will see. I hope to see them in Cleveland as it's been one of their most consistent stops since 1973!

I still love the Duke album. Both sides are balanced well and it was a good thing they didn't make side 1 an entire suite of music. My favorite tracks are Behind the Lines, Misunderstanding, Turn it on Again, Duke's Travels, Duke's End.

From We Can't Dance I think they will play No Son Of Mine and I Can't Dance. I think it would be a good opportunity to bring back Fading Lights as it's viewed by many as their "swan song."

Invisible Touch, Domino, and Throwing It All Away have a good chance of making it to the setlist.

I highly doubt Mama will make it because of how demanding the vocals are. I think they could still pull off Home By The Sea/Second Home By The Sea and they will probably put in That's All from the Genesis album.

Abacab is too close to call as is Duke.

I think the instrumental sections would give Phil a breather and also allow him to play some percussion. I think it's safe to say the stuff with double drumming is out for this tour.

I highly doubt the band will do Mama because of the aggressive vocals. I also doubt they will do In Too Deep because Phil had issues hitting the high notes during the last rehearsal for the 2007 tour. That being said, maybe this gives hope to some of the more mellow vocals like Blood On The Rooftops or Undertow, two songs they have never played live. I also wonder if they will try to do something from Abacab since it was left out last time. I'm thinking maybe No Reply At All or Man On The Corner might be rehearsed. This time around there are new possibilities given the new drummer and Phil's changing vocal range.

I'm also cautious about Phil's comment about staying away from songs that spotlight or bring the drumming to the forefront. I think this basically means no songs with double drumming (i.e. Los Endos, Firth Of Fifth?, Second Home By The Sea, etc). Maybe they will come up with a workaround for some of these and switch to single drums? With Phil's voice being in the condition it is, this could open up the possibility of some rare stuff making the list like Blood On The Rooftops or Undertow. Also, I think it's been mentioned elsewhere, but an acoustic section of the show would be nice with things like Lover's Leap from Supper's Ready.

Here is a list of the board tapes that were in the bands possession and sought after from the old forum:

The band's full tape list can be found here:

http://genesis-movement.org/tapelist.htm

I don't see them doing anything with double drumming or anything songs focusing on the drums (like Phil mentioned in the interview). I also doubt they will attempt any of the stronger vocal songs like Mama. That being said, this alone will limit/narrow down their setlist. I would love to see/hear an acoustic set in the show. This could open up new possibilities for some different songs!

Reports that came in before the announcement about the tour suggest North American tour dates will be coming later. If 2007 is anything to go by, we should get them by July 2020.

Quote from Backdrifter

Will NC drumming have any bearing on set choices, I wonder? Ditto PC's intent to do some drumming and deciding which bits he might have a crack at?

I'm sure all this will play into it as well as Phil's voice. I do not expect him to tackle things with aggressive vocals like Mama.

I found this on YouTube dubbed together...