Posts by foxfeeder

    I completely disagree. He was a mentor for both, Phil and Genesis in the early eighties. And I think that was a wise decision. People keep discussing Abacab, it's far from being a boring album.

    Ahmet's statements about In The Air Tonight itself are also quite interesting. It's part of the Face Value classic album DVD.


    PS: The HITS album uses album versions only ... same with THE SINGLES

    In the Air Tonight loses it's climactic peak at the big drum break through having drums all the way through. Phil did the original the way he did for a reason, with the menacing drone building up to it. The change adds nothing, IMO. Still, for those who prefer it...........


    What is the same with the singles?

    Do you think so? I think it was Ahmet Ertegun who suggested not to include YMR in favor of Who Dunnit, just to give this album more edge and make it more interesting. I assume he thought the inclusion of a "safe" track instead of something controversial such as Abacab would have made this album less ... special?

    Ahmet, the man who made Phil add drums to In the Air Tonight, to create the single version, which you NEVER hear now. Even Phil's "Hits" album uses the album version. So, perhaps his judgement was not that good, after all.

    ^ I just listened to Shadow and found it on the whole quite dull. The title track is a bit like a less-good KT Tunstall (who I like a lot) so there were nice touches. The best of the four for me by some way was Spiral which was nicely atmospheric. The other two were like breath on glass, fading as I was listening.

    I'd agree with that, Shadow is good, and spiral is excellent, the bass really makes it work

    I think the British do a great job of creating believable and relatable characters. Less glamorous actors and more depth.

    If you really want to mine that shaft, and you can find it on a streaming service, may I suggest 60/70's TV series, Public Eye. About a very small time private enquiry agent, only 5 episodes of the first 3 series (1965/66/68) exist, as it was videotaped, not filmed, and at £200 a reel, about half the price of a typical car back then, the TV company reused the tapes! '68 ended with the main character, Frank Marker, being jailed (Not "The jailed" ^^) for handling stolen goods, having been fitted up by his client who used him for their own ends. (In this programme, it often does not end well.) The first full available series, 1969, sees him come out of prison and get himself back on his feet, both it and the '71 series are highlights, but there were 2 more, 73 and 75.


    No guns, no car (he hires one if he needs one), it's a real variation on the usual private 'tec theme.

    so unless I name a specific zoo, I should say I’m going to zoo. Unless I specify which concert I’m attending, I say I’m going to concert? Sounds mega awkward!!!

    You just get used to it. Don't expect logic in the English language, it's evolved over centuries, often without even being written down.


    The pronunciation of "cough" and "bough" would be an example of how bizarre it gets, though frankly, the way you say "Cholmondeley" (a village and castle about 10 miles from me) takes some beating! :)

    The dreadful cover instantly goes into competition with Sylvan's laughable Spiritus Mundi.


    Admittedly I have no interest in hearing this album but as always I stand to have my prejudices challenged.

    Indeed, it's not a good cover, BUT, as G64 (as his friends call him!) says, she has a great voice, PLUS she writes really good songs. Well, so far she has. I have her 4 track EP, Shadow, from 2010, and it's excellent. (In fact, better than her brother-in-laws efforts in more recent times.) If you'd like to hear it, I'm sure that can be arranged. I think they are all on Youtube anyway.


    Just ordered the CD, first 200 copies signed!

    It might have been "nice", but I think the time for that is past. I think the members need to see that this isn't just becoming a wild west town, with no law and no-one taking any notice of offenders.


    I personally think FFS is pretty much the nail on the head. I'm not sure why there is so much reluctance to eject repeat offenders. The old forum was "3 strikes and your gone", less for a major offence. I even had one guy leave in a huff as he knew he was about to be pushed. I forget what he called me, but it wasn't as bad as the name used by the "major offence" guy. Sad thing is, it was his only offence in over 10000 posts and I'd have given him a warning, but someone else pushed his button before I could act.


    So, you see, I believe there is a time for leniency, but not for repeat offenders. Leopards don't change their spots. Old English saying. Feel free to use it! 8)

    Gentlemen, ladies: manners, please!

    Is that it? Your response to a totally unacceptable post by a repeat offender? "Manners, please!" No wonder this place is going to the dogs, there is no effective moderation taking place here at all. You've had the same person make comments about Nazi Germany being alive and well, You've belittled someone who criticized his post about Wuppertal (The poster was from Dresden. Do you not think he was well aware of the comments you made about the Jordan river, he probably knows them better than you. I've known him for over 10 years and found him to be a worthy member and good judge of right and wrong).


    We had the SCD fiasco drag on for nearly 2 years due to gutless moderation, with the majority of forum members sick to the back teeth of his attitude and posturing. Are we to have the same again?


    Grow some bloody teeth and a backbone, before we all move on. FFS!

    When you say "remastered", do you mean Remixed? There are the original CD's from the 80's, many versions of them, many very poor (best example I know of, W&W with "mastered by Sanyo" in the disc clamping area. Generally, these are a mixed bag, some good, some, as I say, very bad.


    Then there are the 1994 Remasters, Labelled "Definitive Edition Remaster" on the CD case rear, which are generally the best versions, having had the hiss removal and other such enhancements.


    Then there are the "2008 Digital Remaster and Stereo Mix" as stated in the front sidestrip. This involves going back to the original multitrack masters, and recreating the stereo mix, which has the potential to do a great job, but also carries the issues that some effects are added at this point, which in the case of early albums might have involved the use of old tech (echo springs, for example) which studios no longer have. So the remix engineer has to try and recreate the effect, not always successfully. But also, as you say, the engineer sometimes goes over the top with compression etc. I suspect these are what you are referring to.


    You should still be able to get the versions you want via Ebay, I could even rip some if you want to compare.

    "With drummer Phil Collins assuming the role of vocalist, the trio enjoyed their first major hit single with 'Follow You Follow Me', in 1978. "


    Completely ignoring the existence of Steve. Nothing new, I guess.

    I never heard the album but I went to see GTR perform in London. It was ok-ish, I think but pretty unmemorable.


    One thing I do remember was vocalist Max Bacon at the end of the gig acknowledging the applause and excitedly saying "GTR won't be a one-album wonder, we're going to carry on going for YEARS!" at which point I swear I saw the Steves grimace through their rictus grins.


    My next memory of Max B was his being an unsuccessful contestant in A Song For Europe, the UK's televised show deciding that year's entry for the Eurovision Song Contest. I didn't know about his New Faces appearance or that the show was even still going in the 80s. I hope his pub did ok.

    Re the "one album wonder" quote, he says a similar thing on the live album which comes with the reissue.


    I didn't know about the Song for Europe bid, but here's Max on the following weeks New Faces, so I guess he won the vote for the first appearance:


    Max Bacon (GTR) - when the heart rules the mind. - YouTube