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In our German forum, we have three reaction smileys.
Like, thanks and haha. The majority didn’t want the other two.
Makes a like button meaningless, but whatever!
Posts by foxfeeder
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YES, YOU SHOULD!
High Flying Angel alone is reason enough to get Testify's 2CDs version.
I wonder why it was not included in the album's original version.
Anyway, Testify is a good album.
Wasting your breath, he's no longer here, he was banned. Might be worth looking at the date of postings before replying!
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Evidence of Autumn is perhaps a prophetic title, as it is the end of that sort of song from them.
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Stackridge? Not sure about this one, but don't recall hearing of any passing.
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Slade, 1966, albeit with band name changes, but that applies to Genesis too (FGTR not attributed to Genesis at the time) - at least 2 of them still active, Jim Lea and Don Powell, together and separately.
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A bit harsh to describe it as the only real song by Hackett/Collins, For Absent Friends may only be 2 minutes, but it's an observational masterpiece, much as this is. Following on from the real opening moment of the album, the coda of "mouse", this sets up the rest of W&W so that the album's good enough to be considered one of the best 4 Genesis albums by many people, 15 points and Steve's swansong.
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Nice work updating the titles, Christian! For those who use the "unread posts" tab, it helps!
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Oh, what fun we had at that pre-internet time dealing with that "first six albums" statement.
Cos of FGTR? Not that unusual for groups to disregard albums from previous eras or incarnations. Seventh Sojourn is the eighth Moody Blues album, Octave the ninth, and The Present the tenth (The "X", the "present" in the cover picture is supposed to represent "10"
Or cos of the Live album? if so, see the discography of Barclay James Harvest, leading to the album XII.
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Last night:
N'monix - Nick Magnus
Northlands - Tony Patterson & Brendan Eyre
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Shadow Of The Hierophant
Icarus Ascending
Twice Around The Sun
This World
The Fundamentals Of Brainwashing/Howl (same track, as explained in notes)
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Somebody Else's Dream
You Call This Victory?
Lion OF Symmetry
Shortcut To Somewhere
Charm
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Denny Laine, real name Brian Hines, originally in Denny Laine & the Diplomats, with Bev Bevan (ELO) and Nicky James (who ended up working with Ray Thomas on his solo albums) then a founding Member of the Moody Blues, famously grabbing No 1 with "Go Now" (which arguably lays claim to first promotional "film" for a song, shot in a room at the back of the Marquee), and bearing some similarities to the video for Bohemian Rhapsody which claims first video, as opposed to film. Go Now was a cover, but he and Mike Pinder wrote many songs during this period, I recommend Boulevard De La Madeleine, and the very rare People Gotta Go. They were the support for the Beatles during their final tour, hence the link to Paul McCartney, and Wings was to be his most notable period of success, but while he may not have taken the Moodies to their eventual heights, his contribution was vital in getting them there.
I was playing disc 2 of the "Magnificent Moodies" box only a couple of weeks back, raw early pop/r'n'b but pretty good, the box included 3 takes of Go Now. Sadly, that time has come for Denny. RIP.
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Of course, and I know it's considered as a "less interesting" song, but I tend to like More Fool Me more than Battle (or let's say at least that I consider it as enjoyable as the rest of the album).
It's a strange little song, placed at the end of side 1, between two "big" songs and completely different from the other stuff in the album. To me, his purpose is to rest the listener a bit, after FoF and to me, it succeeds in doing that.
To me, MFM tries to repeat the charm of For Absent Friends, a remarkable song with its insight into old age from two 20 year olds. Sadly, in this aim, MFM fails miserably.
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I have read all the criticism. Of course, everybody is entitled to his/her own opinion. But something occurred to me. Maybe, just maybe those who criticize that song forget or overlook the fact that the song is about a battle. It only makes sense that it's too busy. A gang fight is supposed to be busy. And the words and the music do express perfectly how chaotic a battle actually is.
I don't know, maybe I am wrong...
Perfectly good point, I'd say.
And as for comments by others that this is "the worst song on the album" - Have you not played More Fool Me? And at least this song has a story, and one that works. Dancing with the moonlit night is very weak lyrically, and not that great musically, except the solo, the following "There's a fat old lady" (Not very PC, is it?
) bit and the ending (The "disney" bit!), Firth is lyrical nonsense, and only saved by the famous guitar section, which the rest is mostly a vehicle for. It's a great album, overall, but it's very patchy, weaving from great bit to weak bit and back again. If anything, Battle is possibly the most consistent bit of it, except IKWIL, which I think is probably the second weakest track, but doesn't change much throughout. -
Agree with what others have said. Seems very typical for what Steve has been releasing the past 15-20 years.
I know I'll buy the CD when it comes out, but most likely will join his last several releases that get played once, and never again.
In reply to the first part of your comment, 15-20 years? That takes us back to 2003-2008, encompassing To Watch the Storms, Wild Orchids, Metamorpheus and Tribute, which I'd suggest are, for the first 3 at least, classic Hackett on form. I'd agree with you if you started with Wolflight, or GR2 (which is the real culprit in my view, as it seems to be the one that pulled him down an artistic alley he seems unable or unwilling to leave).
As for the second part, I stopped buying at "edge of light", by which time I'd given him more benefit of the doubt than he warranted. It's such a shame, for before GR2, his body of work, to me at least, stands head and shoulders above anything Genesis did after he left, but I guess 30+ years of great output is more than most manage, so he owes us nothing. I can't help feeling that parting company with Roger King would help. He definitely brought a lot to the table in the early days, but I can't help thinking much of the rut Steve is in is of Roger's making.
As for this track: As others have said, there's good bits, but it's all a bit "thrown together" and rushed, as well as being like much that has gone before. Using a train as the foundation is not the issue, Steve has done that successfully before, on Overnight Sleeper and Golden Age Of Steam, as have others, like Godley & Creme's Under Your Thumb.
The video is a separate issue, like most, it's made by someone else, and like most these days, it's made on a budget, so lots of stills and library photos and footage. Given the album is "semi-autobiographic", that Steve is from London, and "The Smoke" is slang for London, I'm not sure what else you'd include at the bell tolling, other than the Elizabeth Tower. Sydney Opera House? The Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of Wildebeast sweeping majestically across the plains?
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My favourites, Steve's first 3 (Defector is just Spectral revisited!) and Smallcreep's day. Of those, Please Don't touch is easily the best, I've even known people comment on it (favourably) who didn't know what it was. To Watch the Storms is also pretty good.
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Is that where N*d Sylv*n learned his shtick?
Nah, Nad's a genius in comparison.
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Can't help feeling they have a private joke going, "How ridiculous can we make ourselves look in our concert promo photos, and the fans will still fall for it?"
