Posts by foxfeeder

    This is a good question! So the first Genesis albums I knew were Abacab thru Invisible Touch because my family had those albums. The first actual album I bought myself was a tie between Selling England, Trick, and W&W, but I picked Trick because it was the first of the group I listened to. I bought them all on tape at the same time which was a lot of fun.


    My first listen to A Trick of the Tail was extraordinary! When Los Endos faded out I was amazed at what I had just heard, an experience I don't know I've ever quite had in the same way with any other album I've ever listened to.


    Funny thing about the Selling England tape was that the running order was different from the album and how I knew it to be for so many years. I think More Fool Me followed I Know What I Like, and I can't remember which came next between FOF and Epping Forest, but it was quite different when I heard the proper running order.

    The cassette running order thing was quite common, I had SEBTP on cassette too, and it certainly was different, as was the Lamb, Silent Sorrow was on side one, effectively making it a disc one track. Other options for tape length balancing was editing tracks shorter (Justin Hayward's "Doin' time" on Songwriter) using extended versions ("Remember me, my friend" on Hayward/Lodge's Blue Jays was about 3 minutes longer, still the only stereo version on the track in that form available, despite 3 remaster/reissues of the album on CD, though it is on the quad version) or, bizarrely, including a song twice, once on each side! ("Winterwood" on Don McLean's American Pie)

    OK well in recognition of your impressive linkages there I'll give you that. I was thinking of the more prosaic: Carry On Matron starred Barbara Windsor, who appeared in Eastenders (long-running BBC soap for anyone here who doesn't know) alongside Larry Lamb, who appeared in the film Buster alongside Phil Collins, who has at times been a member of Genesis (for anyone here who didn't know that either).


    I took the motorway and a couple of A-roads but fair do's to you for choosing the scenic route.


    You do realise we're now back to you for the next question. C'mon everyone, join in, don't let just a few of us hog it!

    Just as an aside based on that answer: 2 other links: Barbara Windsor rented a room in Lionel Bart's house for a while, he wrote Oliver! in which Phil appeared on stage. OR: Barbara rented a room in Lionel's house, along with Justin Hayward of the Moody Blues, who once auditioned Genesis to be on their Threshold label. There are probably dozens of other similar links. Gonna go a long way to beat thefarmer's though!

    I have a Nokia 1616, look it up. I'm still alive.

    Very sad news. Loved Diana Rigg in The Avengers. Yes, even here in the states we got to see the Avengers. RIP dear soul :(

    Oh, I know the States got the Avengers, I've known Americans on other forums who still rave about Emma Peel (Allegedly derived from "M(an) Appeal"). RIP Diana.

    Those of you who pre-ordered this album should have/soon will have an email advising dispatch, and probably including links to let you download the album and it's predecessor.


    Arrival of the CD may be slow, due to covid etc, but it's on it's way.

    I loved the punk look on girls, I was in awe of them. Down in my corner of SW London we didn't see many punks but on the rare occasion I saw a punky girl my tongue would practically hang out. It's still a style I really like, along with the indie/gothy look.

    Presumably complete with piercing? :)


    Must admit the goth look can work quite well on girls. Certainly makes a change from the uniform, pouty look used by almost all of them on Instagram, etc.

    Supplemental question about Dreadlock Holiday, just for fun: The song was inspired by an incident that happened to Eric Stewart and …….. Who? Their families were on holiday together in Jamaica.

    or Chrissie Hynde & Ray Davies (were those two on the same episode?!),

    I honestly can't remember. I don't think so, in fact it may have been Hootenanny, in one or both cases. I have probably seen more of those than of "Later.." which I just don't bother with. Yes, there are often acts worth seeing (Marc Almond would be one I'd happily tune in for too) but I rarely feel motivated to even look.

    Interesting, I don't really get that from it, I usually find it has quite a good range of acts and at times appreciated their showcasing of interesting new acts or ones unknown to me which have led me to delve into their work. Not that I've been a regular viewer in recent years, I should add. The things I tend not to like are JH's appalling amateurish interview style, being able to see grinning audience members clustered around the acts, and the occasional tendency to bring on some revered act from the 60s who gets treated like royalty but sadly is simply unable to cut it anymore.


    An example of this was Martha Reeves. I'm not a Motown fan but appreciate its impact and importance for many fans, and that she was one of its popular exponents. But when she appeared on Later a few years ago, in all honesty her voice was like a frog complaining hoarsely as it tried to force its way through a sandpaper tunnel. Yet JH was practically bowing before her and a friend of mine was outraged when I dared to say MR's voice was wrecked, which it so blatantly was.


    And the annual 'Hootenanny' shows have long since been an extended excercise in cringe-inducingness mixed with tedium.

    Didn't see Martha Reeves, but I think it was Jools shows where both Chrissie Hynde and Ray Davies both demonstrated that their singing careers were effectively over.


    Incidentally, does that 600 year long piece of music give a new meaning to "In the Cage"? :/

    I think the slow piece is a great idea and not "pretentious" at all. I also like Longplayer, a millennium project led by Jem Finer, consisting of 20 minutes worth of different chimes on Tibetan prayer bowls, recorded and programmed so as to play in sequences that never repeat themselves. It started playing at midnight on 31 December 1999 and will play continuously through to midnight on 31 December 2999. Provision has been made for it to be generated mechanically should the situation arise that we no longer have electricity. It's housed at Trinity Wharf lighthouse in east London. I've visited it a few times, partly as it's just a really nice area with a very distinctive feel to it - it's quiet and there are nature reserves but you look across the river to the Millennium Dome and Docklands, it's like another world. You can sit in the lighthouse tower and listen to this series of soothing chimes as you take in the view, listening to a 'live' piece of music that will hopefully also be heard, still in progress, by people who won't be born for another 900 years.


    Then you can go look at the offices and homes made out of repurposed shipping containers and visit the Fat Boy diner to enjoy deliciously unhealthy stuff like hot dogs smothered in chilli.


    I love the idea pieces like that and the Cage are a conscious attempt to make something that lasts a long time.

    The Finer piece can be listened to, though, and enjoyed (or hated, as opinion decides). The Cage piece, well, you COULD listen to it, but sleep might intervene. Finer has clearly put some thought and effort in, Cage's, like his famous 4.33 is just "the King's New Clothes" in another form.