Posts by foxfeeder

  • Genesis in the media

    Quote from Thelawnmower

    I've read a few discussions about this. I don't think its particularly important either way. The consensus would appear to be, in the face of a lack of evidence, that Lennon probably said he'd listened to the band and probably Selling England, it would be a fair assumption that this is positive on some level. Beyond that it seems to me that Steve probably believes it, or else why risk looking foolish when you don't need to? But that doesn't make it true and he doesn't say where he has this information from, presumably a source he trusts. I think it would fit with the positive things Lennon did say about ELO around that time, (supported by George's admiration for Jeff Lynne) and maybe that's how it's been amplified. We can't prove Lennon didn't say it so I suppose the best response is to be dubious until evidence arises, if it ever does. I don't think that's the same as Steve being a liar, but maybe he'd be wiser toning it down a bit.

    This is certainly true, and has been known for a long time, well over 20 years, and yes, it was a favourable impression. I seem to recall one of Armando Gallo's books from the 70's quoting it, but my copy is in the loft.

  • TotW 10/30/2023 - 11/05/2023: TONY BANKS - I Wanna Change The Score

    It basically sounds like a Nik K song, I've got both of his 1st 2 albums, and this would fit right on.

  • Slow Dance reissue

    Quote from Jonathan Dann

    This hasn't been prioritised over other releases - the pressing of the 2017 release had sold out some time ago and as one of the key titles in Ant's catalogue he wanted to keep the album readily available. The fact that it's coming out ahead of any more re-issues of Ant's albums is purely down to timing - Cherry Red agreed to reissue the album as a 2 CD set in a jewel case and found a slot for it in their release schedule for January that fits in with everything else they have coming out in the early part of next year.

    And presumably a reissue of an existing pressing is much easier than a remaster of something else, so it makes sense.

  • Are political threads allowed?

    I'd guess he does, but they're like Elvis's staff who didn't tell him to stop eating 13000 calorie burgers, or Michael Jackson's, who didn't say "maybe cut back on the plastic surgery", they don't advise him for fear of being sacked. Similar situation with Putin, I guess, but it's not just the pay packet that will suffer!

  • Are political threads allowed?

    Quote from thewatcher

    I'm not optimistic. I don't think whoever replaces him will be any better. I'm actually extremely pessimistic in saying I think the Republicans will outmaneuver the Democrats by indirectly getting rid of Trump, while keeping the lunatic fringe you mention onside. I'm also being realistic by admitting I may be completely wrong in this guess.

    I'm optimistic, assuming Trump gets the elbow. As a non-American, I'll be happy whoever else gets in, as long as their media exposure is similar to "W", as in "he's a moron, but we can all just laugh at the fool" as opposed to Trump, who wanted to get embroiled in any world event (God help us if Ukraine is still ongoing and he gets in!), and makes a media event of simple things like going to the toilet. Him narcissism borders on certifiably insane.

  • Will Roger Waters ever shut up?

    Quote from FeelItComing

    The Quietus reviewer has seen this thread!:


    What with everything else that he broadcasts, blogs and blathers from the stage, this record is further evidence that Waters has simply never learned when to shut up.

    I thought that too. ;)


    John Lodge of the Moody Blues has just done something similar, remaking Days Of Future Passed, but, unlike the narcissist Waters, he has had the good grace to compliment and thank his fellow band members for their contributions, rather than try and disown them.


    Is the message in DSOTM anti-war? Can't say I ever got that from it. And what's the point? You can preach peace and love all you like, but as long as there are Putins in this world, the only valid response is conflict. Look where the alternative got Neville Chamberlain!

  • Are political threads allowed?

    Quote from thewatcher

    He's definitely street smart.


    There's also the background of him socializing in Democrat circles long before he was a politician, and saying in an interview that if he was going to run for office he'd do it as a Republican because their voters are dumb and would vote for anyone, or something along those lines.


    However. I may be way off base, but between Trump and his unprecedented cocktail of sedition/treason/insurrection/fraud, and Gaetz pulling the levers of power in Congress, I think the GOP is at risk of becoming too batshit crazy even for them, and they may pull back from the brink. Trump is a massive force but my guess is behind closed doors they are wondering how to cut the cord.

    You'd hope so, wouldn't you? It's one thing for the Republicans to embrace him years back, but having seen him in action (Make America Great Again? More like Make America Exactly the Same but more Divided!) I'd have hoped the party, en-masse, would have had the common sense to distance themselves ASAP, but no, seems only a handful have seen sense. I liked the guy who, when Trump was claiming he hadn't lost against Biden, said "it's time to put the big boy pants on!" One of the problems is Biden is not much better. Sane, but ineffective, so he's made America exactly the same too.

  • 50th Anniversary - GENESIS: Selling England By The Pound - some questions for you

    1. When did you buy Selling England By The Pound (or have received it as a gift)?

    Can't remember exactly, 1980 probably.


    2. How old were you when Selling England was released?

    14, nearly 15 though.


    3. Was Selling England your first Genesis album? If not, how many Genesis albums did you own before getting Selling??

    Can't remember.


    4. If you had to rank all Genesis albums, where does Selling England stand?

    Top 3, with Trick and Lamb, order might be different day to day!


    5. Which track was your favourite when you bought the album?

    Battle of Epping Forest.


    6. Which track is your favourite today?

    Firth of Fifth


    7. Which track do you think is the best track on the record despite your own taste?

    Firth of Fifth, despite the nonsense lyrics.


    8. How many versions of the album have you bought / owned? (Vinyl, CD, Remaster, Cassette, SACD etc)

    Cassette, Original CD (Sonopress pressing), bought 2nd May, 1985, the day after buying my CD player. CD choice was quite limited back then, and having bought Clannad's Robin Of Sherwood the day I bought the player (1st May) I wanted something else to play too!

  • GENESIS - “Mama”-Album (40th anniversary)

    Quote from estrelow
    1. Some aggresive compression! I guess it was a period thing, since other records from 1982-1984 period are also very compressed. Funny though, I somehow dislike the over compression on Invisible Touch, but not in this record, where the compression is much more present. Somehow, it works.

    Kind of agrees with Winstonwolf's "smooth and small" comment.

  • "What's on these GENESIS floppy discs?" YouTube video

    Very interesting! So all those years we thought Phil was a great drummer, it was really someone on keys......... (kidding, a bit).


    But, Seriously, everyone was up to this in the 80's, the Moody Blues certainly did this on The Other Side Of Life, and Sur La Mer, they said as much, even at the time, and Barclay James Harvest did it on Welcome To The Show, Mel Pritchard admitted he was worried about doing the drum section in the middle 8 of African Nights live, as it had been done with samples in the studio, and was very complex.


    I wonder if Nick Mason used it? I can't see the point! ;)

  • Tony Banks - Soundtracks (Album Thread)

    Quote from DecomposingMan

    1/ That was actually the point of my joke: Holding down keyboard notes for a long time really isn't an accomplishment!

    2/ I have no idea, but I've heard that he was able to do things with the Mellotron that others couldn't.

    3/ Wow, I don't agree with that at all.

    1/ But with a guitar....... (Actually, you need the right Guitar. Steve has a couple of Fernandez Les Paul copies with a battery operated circuit that, once triggered, makes the string continue to oscillate as long as you want.)


    2/ Indeed, Mike Pinder did have a lot of tricks up his sleeve, most of which he shared with Streetly Electronics, for whom he once worked as a set-up engineer on the Mellotron production line. This particular trick was simple. The Tron has a pitch wheel, which works by speeding up or slowing down the tape motor. He simply slowed the tape down, and played a higher note!


    3/ It's nothing new, I've said it before, ACF has some great songs, Somebody Else's Dream, In the Dark, and Lucky me being maybe the 3 best, but the instrumentals literally do nothing. They don't add to the story, and they're dull as ditchwater. The "Soundtracks" instrumentals, on the other hand, are mostly really good. I suppose it helps that they're not played with that awful electric piano sound Tony used on ACF, and indeed much of that era with Genesis.

  • Tony Banks - Soundtracks (Album Thread)

    Quote from DecomposingMan

    When I listen to this track, I recall Steve's "Twice Around the Sun," which he claims has "possibly the longest sustained guitar note in the history of recording" -- i.e., about a minute -- and jokingly think, "Well, Tony topped that with his sustained keyboard notes!"

    To be fair, that is easy for any keyboard player with the right keyboard. (Here's a puzzler for you, the Mellotron can only hold a note for 8 seconds, due to the tape length, but on "The Voyage" on the Moody Blues "On The Threshold Of A Dream", Mike Pinder holds a note for 11 seconds, without studio trickery. How?


    Anyway, I personally think this is Tony's best album, The Fish track is good, catchy, should've been a hit with some radio play (The video, a spoof on Raindrops keep falling on my head from the Butch Cassidy film, is pretty good too) Lyrically, it's obviously Fish, no bad thing.


    You Call This Victory is better still, I guess it helps if you like Jim Diamond, which I do, the first Ph.D album is excellent. But yes, Lion Of Symmetry is the highlight. Would've been great played live with a suitable lightshow, using UV, and the bass cranked up to 11.


    But the thing that makes it better than A Curious Feeling (which has some great SONGS on it) is that the instrumentals work too, Tony really gets some feeling and emotion in them, whereas the 3 on ACF are just lifeless filler.