Greta Van Fleet.
I thought I was going to die of boredom. If you want to see a turgid drummer backing up a supremely talentless guitarist playing a TEN FUCKING MINUTES long meandering solo at the end of which the very-pale-imitation-Freddie-Mercury-slash-Led-Zeppelin-wannabe front man springs up and yowls some innanity prompting the crowd to lose their shit then I guess this your band.
Otherwise avoid.
You have suffered, but think of the many you have saved! 
He’s a superb drummer. Steve has great drummers on tour with him but it would be interesting to see Nic with him. Also if he were to play on one of his studio albums it might get us away from the very samey drum sound Steve employs these days
Cos they're Roger King doing it on keyboards and samplers!
Unfortunately my turntable cannot play 45s in the correct speed any longer, the rubber is worn out. Otherwise I would have purchased Selling England.
Or I need another turntable...
That doesn't sound very "audiophile". (drive belts are easy to source, I got 2 (inc a spare) for my 1982 Dual C814 cassette deck, even though spares were no longer available. measure and search online.)
I accept most of the responsibility for that. I think it was an organic discussion though and particularly relevant to Squonk, studio vs SO vs other live versions. I guess you can generalize it to different listening formats which was what happened.
Not to stir it up again, but it is amazing to me that later live versions of Squonk (1980?) sound very "raw" and energetic where SO sounds colorless or tame. If that's due to playback format and equipment I'd love to know why/how. Maybe the band just sounded different.
I'm pretty sure it's down to the mixing. It was claimed, in a jokey fashion, that they mixed Steve out cos he'd left, but frankly, I'm not sure it was a joke. He's not very up in the mix at all, and much as some might think he was excess baggage, ATTWT soon highlighted how much he added to the sound. Same is true here.
Totally agree. While all my stuff on vinyl has long since been replaced by CD (or however I could get it digitally, even if I had to digitize it myself), I still keep some LPs around just for the artwork. (Ant Phillip's BACK TO THE PAVILION just isn't the same when shrunk down to CD size, for example.)
P.S.: Boy, did this thread get off-topic...
Yeah, but we got away with it! 
(Digitize it yourself? As in Record the LP to computer, if you didn't like it enough to buy the CD, or it wasn't available? Yes, did that too!)
It was once explained to me in a HiFi shop that the difference is to do with the physical nature of stylus in groove meaning the sound hits you in twinkles rather than simultaneously, as it does from digital sources.
I haven't moved on from it either. I don't understand why anyone would consider it less a preferable format than anything else.
I haven't moved on from CD either, it's my preferred format, sounds great, easy to file and you get the artwork (though I admit the LP beats it, obviously, but it's the only area it does). I don't stream except stuff that's not out yet, and even then I only use youtube as it's free, and I don't use downloads much, except for a few things, and even then, I now use 7digital, cos you can download mp3 AND AAC for one price, AAC is lossless, and I have the software to convert it back to wav files and burn to CD.
I rip all my CD's to hard disc as wave files for backup purposes, and then convert to mp3 for my car, and my music player for use on the move/holidays etc.
People swear by them and claim vinyl albums have a warmer, fuller sound.
What stands out in my recollection of playing vinyl are the crackles, occasional skips and the sound of surface wear from albums played repeatedly.
I thought CDs were a blessing in comparison, and I haven’t moved on from that format - though I know most others have.
Exactly! As I always say, 2if you think vinyl sounds better than CD, you've bought the wrong CD player"!
Joke is, most modern vinyl is mastered off digital sources.
I'd say you'd be better with the digital source! Can't understand the vinyl obsession, there is no area in which it beats a decent digital source (eg/ CD which is 16/44, or other sources with higher numbers like Flac etc, which can go up to 24/96 if available. Even good mp3 like 256k/b or higher is better.)
Display MoreThis box set is available and has been released.
The message from eBay was that they have it in stock but they cannot possibly find the information for me as they are too busy.
The message from Amazon is that they do not know.
Furthermore it is not available for download.
Maybe I should take a punt as it is such good value.
Only trouble is that I might end up with a single disc of Phil Collins serious hits cd.
Release date 22 sept. Amazon often take a while to get up to date info, as I've said.
As for Ebay: They stock nothing, they are agents for sellers, some of whom are honest, some of whom are scammers. Hardly a reliable source. The only seller I've found on ebay uk is in perth, and they say 15/9/23, which may be right, or they may have to update that.
A good hi-fi can't make a poor mix sound good! It's a mixing problem, IMO.
Well, the set is marked "Broadcast Archives"!
Juno in London list it as "pre-order - coming soon" not uncommon for info on new releases to come on amazon in drips and drabs, so my guess is it's coming, but amazon eu have jumped the gun.
Not a fan really, for me they lost a lot when Brian Jones went. He may not have written, but he was a huge part of the arrangement, and they miss that. Still, gotta hand it to them...........
I'm not going to criticize the vocals, for it's hard to drum and sing, even top drummers didn't try it but Nad is better than that. Djabe are a top level band though, so no surprise it's a good version. Thomas Barabas MIGHT be the best bass player I've heard, his solo on the Sipi benefit concert is amazing.
Their finest moment? I wouldn't argue with anyone who said so. I've not heard a better live version, but then I don't chase live versions of anything. That said, nothing on SO is better than studio, for it's a very poor attempt at a live album, the band were good, but someone in the recording process sucked all the life out of it.
15/15
Trivia: On the original LP & CD releases, "Throwing" was incorrectly listed with a length of 4:41.
That was a lucky break! 
Loved that! So on the same page
It's nice to be appreciated! God knows there are those who seem to delight in nitpicking over semantics, and missing the point!
It was a disappointment after SM and Defector, but I've still played it a lot more than Abacab!
