I've just come across TRANSATLANIC! Never actually heard of them before though I find they are big and been going on and off for 20 years. I read about their new album and looked them up on you tube.. They are great . Definitely getting their albums. On my birthday list next month.. I think they will be one of my new favourite bands.
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Also to the legendary F1 presenter Murray Walker, who presented motorsport for almost 50 years. He was such an icon and much loved throughout the world.
RIP Murray Walker aged 97.
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Bowie Glass Spider tour on sky arts. The one and only show that I tried and failed to get tickets for. It's great . Heavily panned at the time. The show is great.
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Record CD or stream. The one Robert Plant album I don't have . Rare now. Worth a few quid on vinyl
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Display MoreAudio luddite here in peace. I love it when music sounds great. If streaming or downloading I try to get the highest quality files I can (flac or what). I enjoy vinyl although the time I get to listen to it is short these days... I have a pair of elac bookshelf speakers I *think* sound great and I just treated myself to a pair of sennheiser wireless over ear headphones. I will occasionally research different vinyl releases to see what's thought to sound good.
So I am interested in this topic. I have to ask... Is there no upper limit to improvement in audio quality? In other words, what is it about this golden egg of Genesis vinyl that would sound so much better than the best commercially available one? Beyond a certain point, how can the aural quality of drums, guitars, keyboards and other instruments be enhanced in their journey from the musician making the sound 45 years ago to the sound entering my eardrum today? Is the goal to get as close as possible to being in the room where the sound was made at the time the sound was made?
Sorry for the stupid questions and don't want to detail the thread by any means. It is interesting that this vinyl exists and that some dude who may not be a big Genesis fan (or may be, I don't know him from Adam) has it.
Also thefarmer: good luck with the lottery!
You are asking a question that I have asked myself for a long time and cannot come up with an answer. I guess if I was rich I might be one of those who gets suckered in to buying hi fi at ridiculous prices , I don't know. I have a 30 year old Linn axis turntable and have no desire to change it as it's my best friend. Two year year old q acoustic concept 20 speakers ( great) and a fairly new marantz amp about £300 pounds which I can't really get on with . I love my B&W P7 headphones. So it's good but not audiophile. I do tend to think that there is a lot of " emperor's New clothes" when it comes to hi fi , although I'm not not rich enough to know what I would be like with so much more to spend I it .
(I do know though that if I had I big house and bigger money I would collect hi fi. I'd love to have a massive room with old cylinder players, 78s gramophones 70s stereos 60s plastic record players , I love all that stuff.) I don't know what these UHQR or mobile fidelity recordings sound like . Never even heard of them before, but there is a little bit of a collector in me that's a sucker for nice box and cover and different versions . It is best record ever made so I want all the versions . I have the definitive edition CD , the SACD, the original vinyl and the remaster vinyl of ATOTT. I used to be really happy with my one copy of the vinyl but as different versions emerged I wanted to hear them. The difference is clear to me but always better. I find wonderful clarity with the remasters but the lose some bass which I also really like especially on Entangled. Maybe the mobile fidelty will have a bit of both ..
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You can go off some people you know. I was quite happy with my existing 4 copies of ATOTT but then because of you I found out about the Mobile Fidelity version . My niece in the US has just received it on my behalf and will hopefully bring it over in the summer so am excited about that . AND NOW before I have even got my hands on it you have the nerve to tell me about this existing and I will never ever have it unless I win the lottery which I now have to start doing because it's the only way I LL ever be able to make an offer for it which can't be refused . So Genesis continue to make me poorer and I have to start doing the lottery which I won't win so Im poorer still and it's all your fault. Grrrrrrrr. (😁)
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There is the actual PC song All Of My Life from But Seriously.
AHG !! I should have got that one. I only have 5 PC albums one's a compilation and one's live. I have But Seriously!
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I got two Genesis songs and one PC immediately. The third took some thinking about but after mulling over a few songs , I got Jesus He Knows Me. The ones I got straight away were Dreaming While You Sleep, Domino and of course In The Air Tonight. . I think that will my limit as I m not so familiar with PC songs.
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And that was crucial for me.
I paid £25 for my double disc Live the way we walk back many years ago. I love flicking around the different viewing areas of the arena. Usually end up back in the mosh pit by the end of the first song.
I never knew Genesis had a mosh pit!
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No question whatsoever. A no brainer. You HAVE to buy the other two. You don't need to know how good or bad they may be . You need to complete the set it's as simple as that.
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I'm ready for the return of live music.
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I finally have my copy on order. My niece who lives in Washington state has ordered on my behalf. She will bring it with her next time she comes over. So I don't know when that will be!! Nonetheless I'm really looking forward to it. Will cost me a mere £60 , less than half the cost of the one and only copy available in the UK.
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There is a topic about them. I apologise for dragging this so far off topic.
That's fine with me. All good or things to develop .
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Display MoreOver the years I've found that some Genesis fans - aside from the usual 'internal' disagreements about eras etc - can get fiercely defensive against any perceived slight on the band. But I suppose fans of many other acts do the same about their own idols. Perhaps as a Genesis fan myself I noticed it more keenly when other fans were overly sensitive.
I haven't visited many other band forums etc but have noticed, to pick one example, U2 fans being quite combative about different eras, usually with a majority being very down on the Zooropa-Passengers-Pop phase - which I like a lot as it happens! I've also noticed Coldplay fans being very dismissive about the Viva album (which even the band more or less abandoned on subsequent tours) but which I think is their best album by a very great distance.
I briefly subscribed to an XTC fanzine in the 80s. In one edition it quoted a Paul Weller review of an XTC single in which he was unenthusiastic and said he found their style quite spiky and precise. I thought it was an interesting comment and saw what he meant. In the next fanzine issue, my god, fans had written in and stopped just short of demanding his public execution! It was one of the main things that put me off fanclubs - that devotion to the point of reacting like snarling attack dogs to even the mildest criticism.
This forum is pretty good. Members' preferences have become gradually apparent and on balance there's a good mix. There have been one or two members insisting the band died in 1977, nothing after that is worth listening to, and simply a money-grabbing exercise. A recent set of exchanges soured when the person asserted that anyone disagreeing lacked understanding. But that sort of nonsense is rare. On the whole it's an enjoyable board.
Yes I like this site for the same reasons. Always good to be able to talk about the different eras and discuss our different preferences and I quite like a bit of an argument myself ( so long as it doesn't get personal) but never really understand the anger that some people seem to display. I find so many Genesis fans don't need to have a go at detractors , they do it themselves.
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I think thefarmer needs to explain the significance of two Battle of Epping Forests.
One comes in second on the set list.
The other nearing the mid point.
Are they exactly the same?
Or is the song split in two.
It is a very difficult song to sing with all those cockney accents and characters.
Perhaps with Nic on drums they may change things a bit. Rumour has it there may be other vocalistics on hand to really project the song(s).
I think this is a very brave move by Genesis and I can only applaud thefarmer for revealing. I for one can't wait for the opening song Dodo/ Lurker which is a striking way to start.
Will they have the heartbeats opening intro tape from the Duke tour?
It is just so exciting.
Thank you thefarmer.
You are very welcome . the significance of two BOEFs is...... farmer was a little pissed! ( Mildly hammered or slightly sloshed ) looks just as good sober though!!😁😁
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For the last year or so I have been rediscovering one of my favourite bands, Rush. I was huge fan in the seventies ( those albums rank amongst my all time favourites) but never took to signals. The bits I heard of their later albums I simply did not like. I bought Show of Hands cheaply to check them out and see if there was anything left for me but there was nothing so I duley ignored them for many years. I bought Vapour Trails following a review and quite liked it , same with Snakes and Arrows, but really liked Clockwork Angels after buying it in a special Classic Rick edition. ( Went to the tour)That is a great album. About a year ago i spotted a CD box set of their albums from presto to SAA. onwards going for a tenner so gave it a go. I have been playing them on and off since and I must say am really enjoying it. The music feels so fresh . Counterparts is a great album , still getting to know the others. I have even revisited Signals and Show of Hands and found myself enjoying them. I have slight regret for ignoring 20 years of music but it's good to catch up in what feels like new music to me. I may even get round to getting the synth laden 3 albums of the eighties still missing from my collection .
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Sounds VERY interesting. Funny sidenote: When I was younger I thought Strat and Tony Smith were the same person
I'mn also curious to learn more about Strat. Ordered!
Certainly are very strange and confusing coincidence.
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I don't know if this counts but I thought it was kind of cool.
Episode 3 of Netflix the Night Stalker, documentary about the 1984/1985 serial killer in LA. The killer's friend is wearing a Genesis Abacab t-shirt. This is contemporary footage from the time.
What is with the band and the old serial killer connection?!
Clearly Genesis are responsible for inspiring a serial killer. And thought I thought was justheavy metal bands.