Genesis - Live (Italy) plus several reissues of FGTR
Can you show us the "Live (Italy)" cover, and maybe some reissues of FGTR? (You can skip the FGTR one that anachronistically shows Peter in the flower costume!)
Genesis - Live (Italy) plus several reissues of FGTR
Can you show us the "Live (Italy)" cover, and maybe some reissues of FGTR? (You can skip the FGTR one that anachronistically shows Peter in the flower costume!)
Interesting review. I still don't know quite what I'll think of the album but I'm pretty sure I'm not going to purchase it unless and until I've had opportunity to hear most or all of it. (Being able to hear all of SURRENDER OF SILENCE in advance definitely helped in my decision to get it.)
What albums can you think of that have one or more members of the band on the cover, but not the whole band?
Here's what I can think of:
Chicago, HOT STREETS - 5 of the 8 members are visible on the front. (The rest are visible on the back, along with one of the guys from the front appearing a second time).
Doobie Brothers, STAMPEDE - 5 of the 6 members are on the front. (The 6th apparently didn't join until after the cover photo was taken).
Doobie Brothers, TAKIN' IT TO THE STREETS - 1 member of the band is seen, in a closeup of part of his face. (The full photo is in the inside cover.)
Doors, ABSOLUTELY LIVE - 2 members (out of 4), or just 1 on the CD reissue cover.
Fleetwood Mac, HEROES ARE HARD TO FIND - 1 member (out of 4)
Fleetwood Mac, self titled - 2 members (out of 5)
Fleetwood Mac, RUMOURS - 2 members (out of 5)
Fleetwood Mac, MIRAGE - 3 members (out of 5)
Renaissance, ASHES ARE BURNING - 2 members (out of 4). (Other 2 members are pictured on the back.)
One of my favorites on the ATTWT album. "Who can escape what he desires?" is one of my favorite Genesis lines. The live version on ARCHIVE 2 is a lot of fun.
I never heard "Abacab" on the radio either. The ABACAB song I heard the most back in the day was, oddly enough, "Like It Or Not" -- one of the tracks that wasn't even a single. To this day I think the only other ABACAB song I've heard on the radio has been "No Reply At All." (I should mention that I haven't listened to radio regularly since 1984, and only hear it if someone else is playing it within earshot.)
Prog Magazine has something important to say
"HACKETT'S FINEST SOLO ALBUM TO DATE"
That's the most unintentionally funny thing I've seen since Steve's comment in the notes of GENESIS REVISITED that "the definitive versions of these songs have yet to be heard until now."
Hmm, it has some good parts. It just doesn't add up to very much.
Here is a review, which reads as if Steve wrote it himself (i.e. it gushes all over the place).
Well, I don't see a writer's name given anywhere... so, who knows?
The review does make me somewhat curious to hear the album, although its overall high praise for Steve's recent work leads me question the judgment of the writer. I'd be hoping to hear something like "this is better than most of Steve's other recent work" instead.
OK, so you did... sorry, I didn't read that review.
...that "Run Out of Time" is longer on the 1983-1998 box set than it was on the original CD single?
On the CD single, it rather unexpectedly faded out while Ray was still singing "hard as I might try, I've run out of luck..."
On the box set, Ray finishes singing, and then there's an instrumental groove during which the song fades out.
The difference is around 20 seconds.
I have to say the cover has grown on me
I'm still trying to comprehend that statement...
I'm the opposite of you and feel no need for long versions of either track, especially Mama where I'm a bit baffled that another 40 seconds is in any way desirable. I actually prefer the truncated live versions and even on the album when it gets to the final verse I'm thinking "yes alright I GET IT".
Well, I'll at least agree that "IGGB" benefits more from not being shortened than "Mama" does.
Despite the editing out of a verse, I like the studio version
while I prefer the extended live version, I'm not overly put off by the abridged studio version.
You guys are aware that there is a long studio version, right? It's what the album version was edited down from. It was the B-side of the 12-inch single and (later) CD single of "Mama" (the long version that fades out some 40 seconds later than the album version).
To me, the long versions of these two songs are the real versions, and the album versions are just inessential extras.
Surely Phil should have known that working with Tony meant sometimes having to sing songs like BR!
"Collins needed to leave Genesis if he was going to stay true to his musical compass."
Well, I'll just say this: While BR is not a major favorite of mine, I have nothing serious against it either. But I have never felt the need to check out anything Phil did after leaving Genesis, aside from his songs for TARZAN. So I'm personally not all that concerned about his "musical compass," and I suspect a lot of other Genesis fans aren't either. (As someone around here once said about DANCE INTO THE LIGHT: "Phil left Genesis to make this?")
10 points for the long version, which is the only one I acknowledge. If I had to rate that awful edited album version, I'd say about 7.
in the live medley versions, Tony skips a whole section after the main melody. He just goes straight to the ascending quadruplet and triplet run. I'm guessing this is because the section omitted is actually quite hard to play. I have never heard him perform this section live in a way that is faithful to the original studio version.
Where is this section in the original track (i.e., from X:XX to X:XX)?
I wonder what Steve would think if he knew how a lot of the fans here talk about his recent work...
My favorite track on my favorite Gabriel-era album. Unlike others, I prefer the studio version to any live version I've heard, and the extended instrumental is my favorite part.
I think the acoustic intro has a bit of an Ant Phillips feel to it.
BTW, where does the listed time of "10:41" come from? That seems to be a bit short. Is that counting the start of "Aisle of Plenty" to be at some point before "I don't belong here"?
I just now realized that I've been reading the album title incorrectly the whole time. I've been thinking it was "The Circus and the Nightingale." The fact that the album cover wouldn't really make sense with this title never occurred to me, probably because a number of Hackett album covers don't really make sense with their titles.
I'm guessing that "nightwhale" is a word made up for this album? A quick Google search doesn't seem to bring up any other uses of it (although I did find a couple occurrences of "night whale" -- i.e., 2 words).
Not a good advertisement for the album. On first listen I'd say this is a rare case where I like the noodling stuff better than I like the main part of the song.