I have added a general spoiler warning to this whole thread, seeing that people refer not very obliquely to songs mentioned (no criticims, it's hard to refer to a song without referring to the song). And seeing that having two parallel threads about the very same topic (one with, one without spoiler warnings) will only cause confusion and redundancy.
So there. Do not read this thread if you want the whole Last Domino setlist to be a surprise.
How did you find this info out, out of interest?
Daryl was interviewed by Greg Koch, and he mentions the -spoiler- bit some 11 minutes into the recording:
https://www.buzzsprout.com/1246721/8853928
(This is, at least, where I found the information).
I'm not sure I've heard musicians talk that openly about the limits of their musical abilities and how they need other people to get their music to the point&level they want them to go to.
Ray's thoughts of PG4 and its influence (that word may be too strong) on his album make me curious about the record.
You serious?
Yes I am. And I do not share your assessment of Hang In Long Enough at all.
As for other songs you praise about the album, well, I share your opinion about some of them, but I would like to point out that what may have been important and personal and autobiographical for him need not, and in this case, is not something I find particularly pleasant or interesting musically.
That's just my opinion about the album. Your views may vary, and that's perfectly fine, too.
Beware! I used to be known as Modzilla.
That was in my younger and less forgiving days, though.
Anyway, let's return to this thread's topic.
trashed is just an over the top synonym for deleted.
I agree. We will be in contact with the supplier of the forum software and see if that can be changed.
I went through a typical youtube rabbit hole last week: Genesis albums ranked to worst to best. I saw several of those videos, Abacab did consistently poorly, the general feeling however was not hatred, that was reserved for IT, rather indifference.
Isn't that peculiar? With many people foaming at mouth when Whodunnit? is mentioned and with the famous booing concerts I would have expected it to be the other way round: hate for Abacab because of its music, and indifference to IT, because its music is pop.
Big boost for NC there, which bar the odd exception was doing quite badly. Doesn't seem to be much love for it on this board, which surprises me.
I have ranked the albums by the percentage of songs I skip. On Nursery Cryme, there are none. Foxtrot has Watcher which has become too pompous for me, Wind & Wuthering has the dreadful Your Own Special Way...
At the other end of the ranking, while I like a number of songs on Trespass, I only like them one at a time. So when I'd enjoy Looking For Someone I'd skip much of the rest, but the same could happen with The Knife (and skip the rest) or White Mountain (and ... you get the picture).
The albums in between are, well, in between.
Plus, Nursery Cryme got the mixture of fast/slow and loud/quiet right, I think. It'd work just fine as a setlist, albeit a short one.
Nursery Cryme
Wind & Wuthering
Foxtrot
Selling England By The Pound
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
A Trick Of The Tail
Duke
Abacab
Invisible Touch
We Can't Dance
Calling All Stations
Genesis
And Then There Were Three
From Genesis To Revelation
Trespass
... This list is valid until probably ten minutes ago 
...
Why, then congratulations, and many happy repeats to you!
Gentlemen, ladies: manners, please!
Moonlit Knight's post in Food And Drink reminded me of the book I'm currently reading, Colum McCann's Apeirogon.
It is the story of a Palestinian father whose child was killed in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. It is also the story of an Israeli father whose child was killed in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. And of their mutual understand that "it is not over until we talk".
It is more than that, though. It is a "panorama in a caleidoscope" of the conflict between Israel and Palestine. I am half-way through the book, and I must say that it has given me a much clearer understanding of why it seems so frustratingly impossible to solve this mess or make sense of it. The metaphor for this is the apeirogon, a geometrical shape with a countable infinite number of sides.
The first pic, the one with the arrow, looks like the guy in the third pic, I think.
Apocalypse peaks in the "brand-new tune" line, I agree, but I would argue that it does not end there. There is a bit of postlude to it before the music moves on to As Sure As Eggs Is Eggs.
The bit between "brand-new tune" and "Can't you feel our souls ignite?" does not really fit to Apocalypse? But it doesn't really fit to Eggs, either! It's a transitional bit that's neither fish nor flesh (nor egg), but it's absolutely crucial to make the narrative of Supper's Ready come full circle.
During the first parts we have moved from the couple on the sofa through a succession of most peculiar images to nothing less than The End Of The World, the ultimate, final battle between good and evil - but before everything and the song dissolves in the eternal bliss of the New Jerusalem the scene flashes back ever so briefly to the couple on the sofa - and then the big cinemascope finale of heaven.
Should this transitional verse be assigned to Apocalypse? Or to Eggs? You could justify both. But as per the distribution of lyrics on the original Genesis have decided count it as part of Apocalypse. Artists' decision, and I can live with that. So, no, there's nothing wrong with Supper's Ready (apart from, depending on your recording and your point of view the facts that a) Peter sings it, or b) Phil sings it, or c) Ray has never fully sung it )
As an aside, with the record company's unblemished record of at least one stupid mistake per (re-)release it is also entirely possible that Genesis could have assigned the transitional verse to Eggs. But they have been consistent in this, which they usually have not been in their mistakes...
two footnotes to the previous two comments:
One - the city of Wuppertal in the valley of the Wupper river is among the areas hit hard by floods in the last couple of days.
Two - more than a hundred people died in the floods. "Crossing Jordan river" or, more literally, "going over the Jordan river" is a colloquial term for dying.
(I don't think Murdock was smiling when he posted )
As has been outlined in various posts here, there are various levels of authenticity to those "reaction videos".
As has also been outlined in various posts here, though there are some markers that hint at those levels of authenticity we cannot usually say for sure whether they are genuine or fake or somewhere in between.
There is not much to be gained from going on in that vein.
Bringing up the vaxxing/antivaxxing topic serves only to poison the discussion. Please refrain from doing that! You're all above that.
To put it all in a nutshell:
Please remember your manners, and do return to the subject.
I see. About Harold Demure, that is. But then "he's still not quite sure", so doesn't that make him the kind of gender-fluid and partner-orientation-fluid person that is discussed so much these days?
What does the politically and socially advanced 71 year old Peter Gabriel think of the 23 year old Peter Gabriel
singing line "and Harold Demure who's still not quite sure" in the way he did.
Apparently I'm not noticing something here. Perhaps a non-native speaker thing. Could you please explain? What is so special about the line and the way it was sung back then?
Fols, would you mind taking your discussion about what may or may not constitute a hit somewhere else, please?
That way we could return to the original topic of the thread.
Thank you.
I started listening to this podcast only yesterday. So far, just episode one. Contentwise it seems to oscillate between amusing little-known facts and irrelevant remarks. That's okay, a podcast that contains only new information would be a sensation indeed.
But can I ask you... Phil's speech sounds so slurred to me. Does that get better in later episodes of the podcast?
