Posts by Schrottrocker

The two step-childs in the discography. Which one do you like better? The comparison between these two comes up regularly, even the band seems to count both out of their canon - Mike Rutherford speaks of Trespass as the "first" and WCD as the "last" Genesis album (various interviews, don't have the sources at hand). Let's see where the forum majority lies!

Oh yes, the perils of proposing in public. Might get watered down a little bit if you're not careful.

I actually saw a public proposal a couple years ago when I was being on stage as a musician accompanying an improv theatre group: unusually, the husband to be of one of the actresses was guesting in a scene (he was an amateur actor, no big ambitions though) and he wove the real proposal perfectly into the scene. He went down on his knees, took the ring out of his pocket and asked 'will you marry me' at a point it was basically part of the improvised story they showed. The woman, as she later told us, was close to say 'No!' as that would be something you would do in a stage scene - as opposed to reality - but she saw the ring and realised this was a breaking the fourth wall moment. She was genuinely surprised and excited about it. It was a really touching and joyful moment for everybody involved, and all of us guys admired the guts that man had.

They used a lot of Steve's ideas, however they wouldn't want something such as Please Don't Touch. They cancelled the second half of Dance On A Volcano in the live version, they wouldn't want to perform Moonlit Knight any longer, anything that had Steve's wild side in it wasn't welcome. Steve had done a solo album with Mike and Phil on board, he was thirsty for more and yet they were frowning upon his ideas for solo material: he wrote Hoping Love Will Last for a female singer and he was dreaming of working with an orchestra, things he could not do with Genesis, but no, there was no room for solo albums. My guess is Steve felt driven in a corner, he had to get out of the band to unleash his creativity. VOTA and Please Don't Touch (his second album) show him overflowing with ideas, and to be honest, Please Don't Touch wins over And Then There Were Three by miles.

Also, Mike, Phil and Tony had been a working unit in the 5-piece already, within the 4-piece it became more and more clear they were able to do Genesis without Steve. He probably saw this clearer then them. He had to choose between becoming a fifth wheel of the band or going solo, there was no middle path.

At least that's the picture I got. Feel free to correct me.

The little brother of Mad Man Moon. Not perfect but close.

Well I tried to send another report, this time it said "feedback submitted" so let's see where this goes.

Knowing the majority of this forum community is not keen on facebook, this might give some of you a good laugh.

I have been active on facebook since 2007. Now, after some 17 years, it won't let me log in any longer. When I try to log in, it shows me a "checkpoint" page that says it needs to verify I am who I am. It claims to send a notification to my windows pc, however nothing happens. Nothing in my mail account either. When I click 'send to another device', still nothing happens. There's no way to get past that checkpoint. Now, I do have a second account I never used. That one I can log in, it's just not of any use because I never used it, I have no friends on there, nothing at all. I tried to use it to contact the facebook help centre. Filled a form, typed in a detailed description of the problem, agreed to them to use all my data etc. - it lets me wait half a minute, then it tells me "Unable to submit feedback". I tried several times, nothing works.

Ain't that fine. Maybe it's time for the final goodbye. It just sucks because besides all the bullcrap I have some nice connections there too, friends I don't have any other contact of or not any longer.

Yes and there is a recording of Phil announcing Steve as the announcer of Entangled. Steve then speaks of the song that features the Tony Banks Maria Callas orchestra.

As for Tony, I was indeed surprised on the 2007 concert in München (Munich) when Phil introduced the band, when Tony was introduced his sphinx face changed to a visible smile on the big screens.

A weak track imho.

Tears For Fears are releasing a new album, 'Songs For A Nervous Planet', out on October 25th.

The new singles are quite promising:

My top favourite album will always be The Seeds of Love, their masterpiece imho. Don't mind these new songs though, I am getting excited for the album.

So it has come to this.

They repeatedly stated that number is wrong. The real number was something around 30, meaning singers who were actually interviewed. I would say even 30 singers who all wouldn't stand the test is a lot, this suggests the band wasn't open for a new persona.

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As was Firth 81, although that was on the b-side of some single wasn't it?

It is on the "Turn It On Again - Best of '81 - '83'" compilation and yes, it must have been on a single. Not sure which one though. Discogs lists it as a flexidisc, I can't find any single having it as a B-side in their list.

I always found it strange that Mick Strickland (whatever became of him) was the only name that ever surfaced. Who else applied? I'd like to get some real names.

It might qualify as weakest song on Trespass. It is a nice one but shows as well there was yet a lot of potential waiting to be unlocked. It was a pretty odd outlier in the ATOTT tour setlist.

Wasn't Entangled released on Archives #2?

I would like official releases of any songs that were played live but have never been released officially. And finally a full release of a CAS tour show.

Quote from panopticom

If your card did not work on the first tap clearly the best move is to keep smashing it against the reader like it is eventually going to change its mind. Spoiler alert: it won't. There's a reason it failed - just insert the card already.

There's a simple trick to make it work: say "COME ON!!!!!" loudly. Repeat several times, add some cussing for flavour. You're welcome

Always liked this one, and the video was superb. I miss this song on CD 5 of the BBC box set. Too many slow to medium paced songs.

cue the inevitable "they owe us fans" comments in 3...2...1...

Quote from Ben

There will be nothing special.

Doesn't this sum up every "exciting new" Genesis release these days?

Just give them beer from Northern Germany and that 'aahh' sound will become a 'beurghh' sound.