I will confine myself to saying I am glad I'm not the only person who prefers Gilmour to Waters.
Posts by FeelItComing
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It's a good list, but omitting Wuthering Heights is like omitting In The Air Tonight from a list of favourite Phil songs. But there is something for everyone there.
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Everton 1-1 Watford
Southampton 2-0 Burnley
Brighton 1-3 Man City
Brentford 1-2 Leiester
West Ham 2-0 Tottenham
Man Utd 0-3 Liverpool
Coventry 2-0 Derby
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Came across this wonderful description of early Genesis by Chris Welch, in the book "The English Difference" from 1974. The book is a celebration of all that is unique about "Englishness", but is a bit more thoughtful and critical than that description might suggest.* And probably more thoughtful and critical than it would be if it were published today. (Also striking how much of what supposedly made England unique in 1974 no longer exists) -
"While a rock 'n' roll band might appear to the casual, disinterested observer as a disorganised bunch of incompetents, Genesis are the antithesis of this concept. Four of them are ex-public-school boys, while the fifth, their drummer, Phil Collins, is an East Ender. Here the two class structures meet with mutual benefit.
Their songs, expanded into long arrangements, give scope for exceptional use of dynamics, light and shade, key and time changes, and a wide range of instruments, powder flashes, and finally the wires and harness which whisk Peter Gabriel, their shy, stuttering but courageous leader into the roof at the climax of their show. Genesis have created a supra-musical entertainment without parallel in theatre or rock music."
*come to think of it, this is a pretty good description of Selling England by the Pound.
Per Backdrifter's emoji, not only is Phil not an East Ender, he is from Hounslow, which is about as far from the East End as you can get in London. Neither is he 'working class'.
I find the description of Peter peculiar to say the least.
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Do you have any idea how ridiculous that statement sounds? Especially on this forum where loving the pap era as much as the prog era is not just expected, but downright mandatory?
'Mama' has its raw side, sure, complete with thunderous drumming and studio trickery. And Phil's pain is palpable. However we're talking music here, and the actual tune is best qualified as nondescript, while the screams/gurgles are just annoying.
But I agree this song is probably one of the trio's best.
It isn't 'mandatory' at all, but your use of the word 'pap'reminds me that there is no point engaging with you.
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Not a trio song, though. But it certainly would have benefitted from PG's participation/singing. And we might have been spared hearing about the er... daddy issues that... mar that particular track. Wouldn't you say this is the album where quality control really started to slip—the advent of that sickly sweet sound that defines the rest of the band's history, all the way to the awful Mama and beyond?
You might say that. Others do not. Once again, you assume your opinions are shared by everyone else.
How Mama, one of the rawest songs in Genesis history, is 'sickly sweet' I cannot fathom. If you dislike it, OK. Don't call it something it patently is not.
Also your assumption that anything on the later albums would have been 'rejected by the collective' elevates Hackett & Gabriel far beyond actual reality. The other three were also part of the collective.
I'm sorry. I really try to stay out of this, but this stuff is starting to get on my nerves. I know what people say. Don't feed the troll.
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Ha ha.. how did you guess..one of the biggest artists of the 80's...blah, blah, blah
The 'Take A Look At Me Now' singer.....
Why is that song always the one which is quoted by the press, and why is it they never even get the title of the song right?! NB I'm not saying that has happened this time. It's just another example of how Phil is stereotyped by the tabloids.
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Reading a statement the band released on YouTube it’s clear that a) they are very upset about having to postpone the shows, and b) they will almost certainly schedule new dates for these 4 canceled shows.
I think so. I feel very concerned for the band members, and upset for those of you who won't see the shows now, but I think this sums it up. To coin a phrase 'it's gonna get better', which I think sounds better than a previous post which said something like 'the tour was doomed'.
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Same here. AFAIC, there was Genesis, a band that put out a string of albums in the Seventies that are just works of art to me - epoch-making, unsurpassable, unbelievably rich musically and in their world-making, to coin a phrase (Trespass through Seconds out, more or less).
And then there was/is the current trio, who after losing all forward-looking members chose to explore vastly different territories - poppy, drenched in keyboards and cloying melodies, and devoid of any real relevance in the plastic MTV world.
Not this again.
I will leave it to those of you who are more eloquent than I am to respond to this, if you feel it necessary. I went back through the thread and will politely just say, Lazlor, you have made your preferences clear. Others disagree.
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I would go to it, but the chances of it happening are nil.
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A big improvement. Can the rest of you feel it etc etc. I will now get this week totally wrong, probably!
Man Utd 1-0 Everton
Leeds 0-2 Watford
Brighton 2-1 Arsenal
Crystal Palace 2-1 Leicester
West Ham 2-3 Brentford
Liverpool 2-0 Man City
Coventry 2-1 Fulham
Cardiff 0-1 Reading
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FeelItComing I was there on the 22nd. he didn't leave the stage. He went to sit behind Daryl & Mike (in front of the backing singers) to watch Nic play the drums. I could see his head.
Right. Thanks so much for clearing that up. It didn't occur to me that he'd be doing that - I just assumed he'd stay in his seat and turn to face Nic.
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The only videos I have seen are of Birmingham and there was one moment which did jar with me.
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There are quite a few solo Eagles albums, although some of them were more prolific than others. After the 70s and 80s it sort of dwindled to about one a decade.
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Everton 2-1 Norwich
Leicester 3-0 Burnley
Watford 2-0 Newcastle
Southampton 1-2 Wolves
Arsenal 0-1 Tottenham
Blackpool 1-0 Barnsely
Stoke 2-0 Hull
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It's always the same - when you announce a Genesis show, you can do an hour of solo stuff. When you announce to play the complete Seconds Out, even less.
To be fair: Steve alwyas did play solo tracks from the last 4 albums during these Genesis-related shows but how wonderful would that be if he did a pure solo show.
Well yes, when you put it like that. I know what he's doing and why he's doing it, and still hope to see it next year after two postponements.
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For some strange reason, I don't mind referring to Scratch & Melt, but I don't ever say Car & certainly not Security. So if it's an ''official' title that is news to me.
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I think we remember the over the top gushing that accompanied the release of the new album. If he thinks it is so great, would it hurt him to play more than two tracks from it?
