Posts by boredatwork

    Another interesting Bowie documentary (David Bowie: Finding Fame) on BBC2, this one about his early career, including clips from the Atomic Sunrise festival. It was pleasantly surprising to see how much footage there is of him from the 60s when he was unknown, but such a contrast with how little early Genesis footage exists.

    Also good to see Endeavour back for a 6th series, this one set in 1969 ( foxfeeder – did they get the cars right? :/ ). Didn’t spot any Genesis references this time, & there wasn’t one particular dominant theme throughout the episode, although all 3 girl victims were linked via Alice in Wonderland.

    Something has gone very, very astray here... (Using the rule that medieval Latin generally doesn't give a flying f*** about grammar explains a lot.

    Yep! Me, I’m just a medievalist .... & we leave grammar to the classicists. ;)

    I'm also now thinking that Promissio cum gaudio may be "correct" since it is medieval Latin. It's completely possible that promissio may have been transformed into a verb by that time.

    My parents often played their Carmina Burana LP, hence the “Dulcissime” line was instantly recognisable. So was “Promissio”, “cum gaudio” & a lot of other short lines that rhyme with “Oh Oh Oh”. Both come from “Tempus es iocundum (This is the joyful time)” the track before “Dulcissime” but they don’t belong together, which confused me earlier. Still, if those other Latin lines are so garbled, it’s obvious that someone has accidentally fused them into one phrase in Steve’s lyrics booklet.

    So that’s the Latin sorted: it’s 3 (oddly translated) lines from Carmina Burana & one dodgy bit of Virgil! ^^

    Well those last 2 lines rang a bell. They come from Carl Orff’s Carmina Burana:

    23. Dulcissime (Sweetest one)


    Sweetest one! Ah!

    totam tibi subdo me!

    I give myself to you totally!

    25. O Fortuna (O Fortune)

    corde pulsum tangite;

    pluck the vibrating strings;

    I reckon “Plucking the vibrating strings” is a very appropriate phrase to describe Steve.

    Here’s the link;…works/orff-cb/carmlyr.php

    One other thing – Carmina Burana is medieval Latin which is often rather more debased than classical Latin – hence the errors perhaps?

    Now, can anyone nail that “Promissio cum gaudio (I promise with joy)” reference?


    Jeremy Hardy dying aged 57 is a real sad loss. Radio (& TV) comedy in the UK is pretty dire now, with cartloads of tiresome nonentities competing to prove how “woke” they are. Jeremy & his mate Mark Steel are just about the only ones who've remained consistently funny.

    RIP Jeremy :(

    Listened to a couple of tracks on Youtube.

    Descent is good – it sticks to doing one thing, isn’t too long, has no vocals & is slightly reminiscent of Led Zeppelin’s Kashmir.

    Those Golden Wings seems overlong, somewhat marred by vocals & while the orchestral/choral sections sound good they don’t particularly fit in with the rest of the track.

    Still can’t decide whether to get the CD, after hardly playing The Night Siren :/

    Similarly here is a piece from the RAM Album Club site. I don't think they do it any more but they used to have this feature where someone reviews a well-known album they've never heard before. In this one, the writer David Quantick comments on Foxtrot. I found this quite funny but it will probably annoy some -…eek-62-foxtrot-by-genesis

    Agreed, the preamble about Genesis is quite funny. It’s a pity David Quantick disliked most of Foxtrot, given how impressive his Top 3 Albums Ever List is (The White Album - The Beatles; Low - David Bowie; Another Music In A Different Kitchen – Buzzcocks). But at least he made the effort to listen to Foxtrot several times, so fair enough.

    I like all of Foxtrot. The weakest track is Timetable, pretty but rather bland - but that’s probably just because the rest of the album’s so strong.

    Last night I enjoyed the drama Brexit: An Uncivil War. I'm a sucker for political dramas and saturated in brexit as I am - as I'm sure we all are in the UK - I couldn't resist it. It's an interesting take, focusing solely on Dominic Cummings and the digital assault tactics he deployed when running the Vote Leave campaign. As a remainer I found a lot of it uneasy viewing and I cringed a few times, mainly from what I instinctively felt was probably a faithful depiction of the woefully poor remain campaign. What came across strongly was the stark contrast between that, with its traditional plodding approach, and Cummings's online "war" approach. There are good performances and it was entertaining in an unsavoury sort of way.

    This was a thoroughly entertaining drama regardless of which way anyone voted. Obviously some things were altered for dramatic effect, but Benedict Cumberbatch & Rory Kinnear were both excellent (as Rory Kinnear is in every role he plays). I also thought it would be a lot more biased than it actually was: since they had to pack it all into 2 hours it was probably inevitable that some participants would only appear as caricatured cameos.

    We watched the first episode of the new BBC adaptation of Les Miserables - starring Lily Collins as Fantine. She was very good. I have read the book but a few years ago so it took time for me to remember what was happening. The villain, Javert, is played by a black actor.

    It wasn’t bad, it’ll be worth watching the rest. I haven’t read the book but quite liked the film with Hugh Jackman, Russell Crowe etc despite not finding the songs memorable. It lives up to its name though, with almost the entire cast dying during the show (like “Hamlet”!)

    “The Inbetweeners” 10 year anniversary was a dire “tribute” to a great comedy. Jimmy Carr was the worst host possible & they kept re-showing the same few clips & dishing out pointless awards. The funniest bit was Neil Oliver, who’s a TV historian not a comedian, doing a mock history documentary about “The Inbetweeners”, which says a lot about the standard of the rest of the show. :rolleyes:

    I’m sure you’re right that having an enthusiastic teacher would have made studying Shakespeare more enjoyable.

    The episode that took the “reasonable doubt” movement to its logical conclusion – namely that if Mark Rylance had lived in the 16th century he’d have told Shakespeare to his face that he couldn’t have written his plays - was a good one.

    Ben Elton has produced some substandard stuff since his 1980s peak, but Upstart Crow is a definite return to form (although for me nothing could equal The Young Ones or even the best bits of Blackadders). Elton does include some preachy lines, usually delivered by poor Kate the frustrated actress, that can get tiresome, but David Mitchell is a real asset.

    That stuff is only 'typical Shakespeare' if you don't like Shakespeare. However I don't wish to have an argument. The show works well as a lightweight comedy.

    You’d need to have that argument with Ben Elton rather than me, since his script for Upstart Crow mercilessly targets Shakespeare’s (sometimes, not always!) long-winded obscure dialogue, unfunny comedy scenes & unconvincing cross-dressing. But the reason Elton jokes about those things is because – like me & foxfeeder – he’s obviously endured the plodding way Shakespeare’s plays are taught in school in the UK, which hammers all the life out of them, emphasises their drawbacks & puts people off them for life.

    I enjoy Shakespeare when it’s done well & imaginatively (both Zefirelli’s & Baz Luhrman’s films of Romeo & Juliet spring to mind), & I’m sure Ben Elton does too. It’s possible to recognise & laugh at the shortcomings of things you like e.g. “Brian Pern” affectionately mocked Peter Gabriel, but it was made (& enjoyed) by many of his fans.

    Also I have never seen any of Upstart Crow what is it like?

    If you’ve seen any Shakespeare plays you can enjoy it & the more you know the funnier it is - I should know since my mum loved Shakespeare & I’d been dragged to see “Hamlet” 8 times by the age of 14! But David Mitchell (Shakespeare) is basically himself in a 16th-century setting so there’s lots of references to contemporary problems like public transport, which he frequently rants about as a commuter between London & Stratford-on-Avon, corruption, government incompetence etc. There’s also the ongoing gag of him being amazed or offended whenever the rest of the cast criticise his work for what everyone who's ever studied his plays at school knows is typical Shakespeare: long-winded obscure dialogue, unfunny comedy scenes, unconvincing cross-dressing, etc. Worth watching if you’ve never seen it.

    As for the Agatha Christie serial I’m no expert, but it’s not like most past dramatisations, in fact she’d hardly recognise such a dark, sluggish adaptation of her work.

    What did you thnk of an Upstart Crow Christmas Carol? I was disappointed. Stick to Shakespeare & leave Dickens out of it. They could have done a Twelfth Night theme.

    It seemed an appropriate subject to be shown on Xmas Day but I thought it wasn't as sharp as most of the preceding episodes, perhaps because after the initial Marley’s/Marlowe’s ghost joke it was rather predictable since the plot of Christmas Carol is so well known. But given the competition, it was still the most watchable thing on TV over Xmas. For me, the comments about public transport in the UK & the luvvie-ness of actors are the highlights of any episode of Upstart Crow.

    The 2nd part of that Agatha Christie mystery was as turgid as the first.

    Xmas TV on the UK terrestrial channels has been pretty bad this year.

    There was a new CGI adaptation of Watership Down where all the rabbits looked indistinguishable from each other & the story was changed for no good - or even apparent - reason.

    There’s a grim, drab Agatha Christie mystery trying to shoehorn lectures about fascism into a murder mystery. I watched the first episode but now I've finished the ironing there's nothing to keep me awake throughout the next 2, so I might not bother.

    Basically there’s been nothing worth watching apart from the Upstart Crow Xmas special.

    (I’m sure we had this thread on the old forum but can’t find it here).

    This morning I heard Gary Barlow on the radio saying he was saved from despair after losing his record deal by listening to “Don’t Give Up”. So I guess we have Peter to thank(?) for Gary’s subsequent career :/