Posts by boredatwork

    You may also check out this. We haven updated that for a while, but the info in there is still quite stunning


    https://www.genesis-news.com/c…he-Making-Of-IO-s161.html

    Really admire your dedication in recording every potentially hopeful sign (aka false dawn :rolleyes: ) over the past 18 years of Peter's endless tinkering!


    It certainly drives home the message that most (albeit not all) good artists/bands produce their best work when they’re young & have the drive to experiment & prove themselves by creating music regularly.

    Endeavour again. The multiple murderers & motivations have been getting a bit too numerous & confusing in the past 2 episodes - I lost track of the body count during the last one - but enjoying the references. After last week’s Thunderbirds themed episode, this week it was Chigley/Trumpton/Camberwick Green & a bit of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang & Cadburys. If they screen Endeavour in the US, maybe the President Clinton reference was a tidbit for viewers there who were baffled by all the British kids’ TV nostalgia?

    Well, for the 3rd time in my life I’m going to see my favourite band live for the first time! ^^

    (Just to clarify, in 1980 the band was Rockpile, in 2008 it was Franz Ferdinand ...)


    ... and on Thursday it’s the Lemon Twigs at the Ritz in Manchester :D

    I'm not sure about 'awkward' or that your EP suggestion would be any more preferable. But it doesn't sound especially enticing. It's a fairly classic example of an artist with little left in the tank. They've managed to knock together 3 new songs and decided that if they redo some old ones as well that'll feel new enough to justify an album to go alongside the tour.

    It’s hard to disagree with this assessment. Maybe 3 new songs aren’t enough for an EP but surely they could be released as standalone tracks that fans can buy as digital downloads. The concept of this album does sound a bit mercenary. :/

    DOES IT??!


    Apart from the pool reference and "certain to win" I can't see how it fits.

    I can’t recall where I read the song was about Phil, but it fits pretty well.


    He was easy-going, smiling, friendly & laid back compared to the uptight Charterhouse boys. He was amused when he watched them have screaming rows & storm off over some minor musical point. He passed the audition by listening to other drummers from the swimming pool. And given his hair & beard in his early Genesis days, no one can deny that “Someone says he’s Jesus Christ” was a good description! ^^


    The “nun with a gun” line is a mystery but perhaps it referred to some contemporary event/film/song?

    Another interesting Bowie documentary (David Bowie: Finding Fame) on BBC2, this one about his early career, including clips from the Atomic Sunrise festival. It was pleasantly surprising to see how much footage there is of him from the 60s when he was unknown, but such a contrast with how little early Genesis footage exists.


    Also good to see Endeavour back for a 6th series, this one set in 1969 ( foxfeeder – did they get the cars right? :/ ). Didn’t spot any Genesis references this time, & there wasn’t one particular dominant theme throughout the episode, although all 3 girl victims were linked via Alice in Wonderland.

    Something has gone very, very astray here... (Using the rule that medieval Latin generally doesn't give a flying f*** about grammar explains a lot.

    Yep! Me, I’m just a medievalist .... & we leave grammar to the classicists. ;)

    I'm also now thinking that Promissio cum gaudio may be "correct" since it is medieval Latin. It's completely possible that promissio may have been transformed into a verb by that time.

    My parents often played their Carmina Burana LP, hence the “Dulcissime” line was instantly recognisable. So was “Promissio”, “cum gaudio” & a lot of other short lines that rhyme with “Oh Oh Oh”. Both come from “Tempus es iocundum (This is the joyful time)” the track before “Dulcissime” but they don’t belong together, which confused me earlier. Still, if those other Latin lines are so garbled, it’s obvious that someone has accidentally fused them into one phrase in Steve’s lyrics booklet.


    So that’s the Latin sorted: it’s 3 (oddly translated) lines from Carmina Burana & one dodgy bit of Virgil! ^^

    Well those last 2 lines rang a bell. They come from Carl Orff’s Carmina Burana:

    23. Dulcissime (Sweetest one)

    Dulcissime,

    Sweetest one! Ah!

    totam tibi subdo me!

    I give myself to you totally!


    25. O Fortuna (O Fortune)

    corde pulsum tangite;

    pluck the vibrating strings;


    I reckon “Plucking the vibrating strings” is a very appropriate phrase to describe Steve.


    Here’s the link;

    http://www.classical.net/music…works/orff-cb/carmlyr.php


    One other thing – Carmina Burana is medieval Latin which is often rather more debased than classical Latin – hence the errors perhaps?


    Now, can anyone nail that “Promissio cum gaudio (I promise with joy)” reference?

    ;)

    Jeremy Hardy dying aged 57 is a real sad loss. Radio (& TV) comedy in the UK is pretty dire now, with cartloads of tiresome nonentities competing to prove how “woke” they are. Jeremy & his mate Mark Steel are just about the only ones who've remained consistently funny.


    RIP Jeremy :(

    Listened to a couple of tracks on Youtube.

    Descent is good – it sticks to doing one thing, isn’t too long, has no vocals & is slightly reminiscent of Led Zeppelin’s Kashmir.

    Those Golden Wings seems overlong, somewhat marred by vocals & while the orchestral/choral sections sound good they don’t particularly fit in with the rest of the track.

    Still can’t decide whether to get the CD, after hardly playing The Night Siren :/

    Similarly here is a piece from the RAM Album Club site. I don't think they do it any more but they used to have this feature where someone reviews a well-known album they've never heard before. In this one, the writer David Quantick comments on Foxtrot. I found this quite funny but it will probably annoy some - http://ramalbumclub.com/post/1…eek-62-foxtrot-by-genesis

    Agreed, the preamble about Genesis is quite funny. It’s a pity David Quantick disliked most of Foxtrot, given how impressive his Top 3 Albums Ever List is (The White Album - The Beatles; Low - David Bowie; Another Music In A Different Kitchen – Buzzcocks). But at least he made the effort to listen to Foxtrot several times, so fair enough.


    I like all of Foxtrot. The weakest track is Timetable, pretty but rather bland - but that’s probably just because the rest of the album’s so strong.

    Last night I enjoyed the drama Brexit: An Uncivil War. I'm a sucker for political dramas and saturated in brexit as I am - as I'm sure we all are in the UK - I couldn't resist it. It's an interesting take, focusing solely on Dominic Cummings and the digital assault tactics he deployed when running the Vote Leave campaign. As a remainer I found a lot of it uneasy viewing and I cringed a few times, mainly from what I instinctively felt was probably a faithful depiction of the woefully poor remain campaign. What came across strongly was the stark contrast between that, with its traditional plodding approach, and Cummings's online "war" approach. There are good performances and it was entertaining in an unsavoury sort of way.

    This was a thoroughly entertaining drama regardless of which way anyone voted. Obviously some things were altered for dramatic effect, but Benedict Cumberbatch & Rory Kinnear were both excellent (as Rory Kinnear is in every role he plays). I also thought it would be a lot more biased than it actually was: since they had to pack it all into 2 hours it was probably inevitable that some participants would only appear as caricatured cameos.

    We watched the first episode of the new BBC adaptation of Les Miserables - starring Lily Collins as Fantine. She was very good. I have read the book but a few years ago so it took time for me to remember what was happening. The villain, Javert, is played by a black actor.

    It wasn’t bad, it’ll be worth watching the rest. I haven’t read the book but quite liked the film with Hugh Jackman, Russell Crowe etc despite not finding the songs memorable. It lives up to its name though, with almost the entire cast dying during the show (like “Hamlet”!)


    “The Inbetweeners” 10 year anniversary was a dire “tribute” to a great comedy. Jimmy Carr was the worst host possible & they kept re-showing the same few clips & dishing out pointless awards. The funniest bit was Neil Oliver, who’s a TV historian not a comedian, doing a mock history documentary about “The Inbetweeners”, which says a lot about the standard of the rest of the show. :rolleyes:

    I’m sure you’re right that having an enthusiastic teacher would have made studying Shakespeare more enjoyable.


    The episode that took the “reasonable doubt” movement to its logical conclusion – namely that if Mark Rylance had lived in the 16th century he’d have told Shakespeare to his face that he couldn’t have written his plays - was a good one.


    Ben Elton has produced some substandard stuff since his 1980s peak, but Upstart Crow is a definite return to form (although for me nothing could equal The Young Ones or even the best bits of Blackadders). Elton does include some preachy lines, usually delivered by poor Kate the frustrated actress, that can get tiresome, but David Mitchell is a real asset.

    That stuff is only 'typical Shakespeare' if you don't like Shakespeare. However I don't wish to have an argument. The show works well as a lightweight comedy.

    You’d need to have that argument with Ben Elton rather than me, since his script for Upstart Crow mercilessly targets Shakespeare’s (sometimes, not always!) long-winded obscure dialogue, unfunny comedy scenes & unconvincing cross-dressing. But the reason Elton jokes about those things is because – like me & foxfeeder – he’s obviously endured the plodding way Shakespeare’s plays are taught in school in the UK, which hammers all the life out of them, emphasises their drawbacks & puts people off them for life.


    I enjoy Shakespeare when it’s done well & imaginatively (both Zefirelli’s & Baz Luhrman’s films of Romeo & Juliet spring to mind), & I’m sure Ben Elton does too. It’s possible to recognise & laugh at the shortcomings of things you like e.g. “Brian Pern” affectionately mocked Peter Gabriel, but it was made (& enjoyed) by many of his fans.

    Also I have never seen any of Upstart Crow what is it like?

    If you’ve seen any Shakespeare plays you can enjoy it & the more you know the funnier it is - I should know since my mum loved Shakespeare & I’d been dragged to see “Hamlet” 8 times by the age of 14! But David Mitchell (Shakespeare) is basically himself in a 16th-century setting so there’s lots of references to contemporary problems like public transport, which he frequently rants about as a commuter between London & Stratford-on-Avon, corruption, government incompetence etc. There’s also the ongoing gag of him being amazed or offended whenever the rest of the cast criticise his work for what everyone who's ever studied his plays at school knows is typical Shakespeare: long-winded obscure dialogue, unfunny comedy scenes, unconvincing cross-dressing, etc. Worth watching if you’ve never seen it.


    As for the Agatha Christie serial I’m no expert, but it’s not like most past dramatisations, in fact she’d hardly recognise such a dark, sluggish adaptation of her work.