Posts by boredatwork

    Then down to the smoke for Todd Rundgren (Saturday night) at Hammersmith Apollo.

    Was he worth the trip? It seems surprising he only played 1 gig in the UK rather than doing a few cities, but then he’s probably one of those big American names who’s not particularly well known over here.

    ... it followed Brothers In Arms. It couldn't live up to that masterwork (and it is a masterwork, despite all the sneers about 'people only bought it to test their new CD players').

    Just an aside that some of us didn’t have CD players but bought the Brothers in Arms LP, then got Making Movies on cassette so it could be played in the car. Despite playing both a great deal, somehow never got around to their other albums. In the UK they were universally popular in the mid-80s, & then in the early 90s they suddenly became the old dinosaurs everyone sneered at. Maybe a reaction against over-exposure, similar to what happened to Phil Collins?

    You may also check out this. We haven updated that for a while, but the info in there is still quite stunning


    https://www.genesis-news.com/c…he-Making-Of-IO-s161.html

    Really admire your dedication in recording every potentially hopeful sign (aka false dawn :rolleyes: ) over the past 18 years of Peter's endless tinkering!


    It certainly drives home the message that most (albeit not all) good artists/bands produce their best work when they’re young & have the drive to experiment & prove themselves by creating music regularly.

    Endeavour again. The multiple murderers & motivations have been getting a bit too numerous & confusing in the past 2 episodes - I lost track of the body count during the last one - but enjoying the references. After last week’s Thunderbirds themed episode, this week it was Chigley/Trumpton/Camberwick Green & a bit of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang & Cadburys. If they screen Endeavour in the US, maybe the President Clinton reference was a tidbit for viewers there who were baffled by all the British kids’ TV nostalgia?

    Well, for the 3rd time in my life I’m going to see my favourite band live for the first time! ^^

    (Just to clarify, in 1980 the band was Rockpile, in 2008 it was Franz Ferdinand ...)


    ... and on Thursday it’s the Lemon Twigs at the Ritz in Manchester :D

    I'm not sure about 'awkward' or that your EP suggestion would be any more preferable. But it doesn't sound especially enticing. It's a fairly classic example of an artist with little left in the tank. They've managed to knock together 3 new songs and decided that if they redo some old ones as well that'll feel new enough to justify an album to go alongside the tour.

    It’s hard to disagree with this assessment. Maybe 3 new songs aren’t enough for an EP but surely they could be released as standalone tracks that fans can buy as digital downloads. The concept of this album does sound a bit mercenary. :/

    DOES IT??!


    Apart from the pool reference and "certain to win" I can't see how it fits.

    I can’t recall where I read the song was about Phil, but it fits pretty well.


    He was easy-going, smiling, friendly & laid back compared to the uptight Charterhouse boys. He was amused when he watched them have screaming rows & storm off over some minor musical point. He passed the audition by listening to other drummers from the swimming pool. And given his hair & beard in his early Genesis days, no one can deny that “Someone says he’s Jesus Christ” was a good description! ^^


    The “nun with a gun” line is a mystery but perhaps it referred to some contemporary event/film/song?

    Another interesting Bowie documentary (David Bowie: Finding Fame) on BBC2, this one about his early career, including clips from the Atomic Sunrise festival. It was pleasantly surprising to see how much footage there is of him from the 60s when he was unknown, but such a contrast with how little early Genesis footage exists.


    Also good to see Endeavour back for a 6th series, this one set in 1969 ( foxfeeder – did they get the cars right? :/ ). Didn’t spot any Genesis references this time, & there wasn’t one particular dominant theme throughout the episode, although all 3 girl victims were linked via Alice in Wonderland.

    Something has gone very, very astray here... (Using the rule that medieval Latin generally doesn't give a flying f*** about grammar explains a lot.

    Yep! Me, I’m just a medievalist .... & we leave grammar to the classicists. ;)

    I'm also now thinking that Promissio cum gaudio may be "correct" since it is medieval Latin. It's completely possible that promissio may have been transformed into a verb by that time.

    My parents often played their Carmina Burana LP, hence the “Dulcissime” line was instantly recognisable. So was “Promissio”, “cum gaudio” & a lot of other short lines that rhyme with “Oh Oh Oh”. Both come from “Tempus es iocundum (This is the joyful time)” the track before “Dulcissime” but they don’t belong together, which confused me earlier. Still, if those other Latin lines are so garbled, it’s obvious that someone has accidentally fused them into one phrase in Steve’s lyrics booklet.


    So that’s the Latin sorted: it’s 3 (oddly translated) lines from Carmina Burana & one dodgy bit of Virgil! ^^

    Well those last 2 lines rang a bell. They come from Carl Orff’s Carmina Burana:

    23. Dulcissime (Sweetest one)

    Dulcissime,

    Sweetest one! Ah!

    totam tibi subdo me!

    I give myself to you totally!


    25. O Fortuna (O Fortune)

    corde pulsum tangite;

    pluck the vibrating strings;


    I reckon “Plucking the vibrating strings” is a very appropriate phrase to describe Steve.


    Here’s the link;

    http://www.classical.net/music…works/orff-cb/carmlyr.php


    One other thing – Carmina Burana is medieval Latin which is often rather more debased than classical Latin – hence the errors perhaps?


    Now, can anyone nail that “Promissio cum gaudio (I promise with joy)” reference?

    ;)

    Jeremy Hardy dying aged 57 is a real sad loss. Radio (& TV) comedy in the UK is pretty dire now, with cartloads of tiresome nonentities competing to prove how “woke” they are. Jeremy & his mate Mark Steel are just about the only ones who've remained consistently funny.


    RIP Jeremy :(

    Listened to a couple of tracks on Youtube.

    Descent is good – it sticks to doing one thing, isn’t too long, has no vocals & is slightly reminiscent of Led Zeppelin’s Kashmir.

    Those Golden Wings seems overlong, somewhat marred by vocals & while the orchestral/choral sections sound good they don’t particularly fit in with the rest of the track.

    Still can’t decide whether to get the CD, after hardly playing The Night Siren :/

    Similarly here is a piece from the RAM Album Club site. I don't think they do it any more but they used to have this feature where someone reviews a well-known album they've never heard before. In this one, the writer David Quantick comments on Foxtrot. I found this quite funny but it will probably annoy some - http://ramalbumclub.com/post/1…eek-62-foxtrot-by-genesis

    Agreed, the preamble about Genesis is quite funny. It’s a pity David Quantick disliked most of Foxtrot, given how impressive his Top 3 Albums Ever List is (The White Album - The Beatles; Low - David Bowie; Another Music In A Different Kitchen – Buzzcocks). But at least he made the effort to listen to Foxtrot several times, so fair enough.


    I like all of Foxtrot. The weakest track is Timetable, pretty but rather bland - but that’s probably just because the rest of the album’s so strong.