Posts by Mark Bataitis

    As I mentioned, the '93 gig was the most full filling out of the other PG concerts I'd been to. The '86 show I attended was good but not quite on par with the aforementioned. A couple of things from that concert DO stand out though, during "No Self Control", the lights that were raining down on him almost in an attacking mode came close to hitting him. And, when he fell back into the crowd during "Lay Your Hands on Me", he barely emerged back on stage, wearing nothing but his pants. Security really had to fight to retrieve him, the crowd wouldn't let him go.

    'they do respect her but they love to watch her strut'. I try not to take it too seriously but I struggle with it.

    It's just a song. But at the same time, there are certainly a vast amount of 'strutters', trying to draw attention to themselves. No one tells them to 'strut'.

    I've only ever liked a small handful of tracks. Around the time of Crisis it felt like they might be a band I could get to like but ultimately they never clicked with me.

    That's a very odd comparison in my view, I don't get that at all. But if they are to be forcibly pushed together in a shotgun juxtaposition 10cc are the clear winner for me.

    10CC and Supertramp? Apples and oranges.

    I hardly think the work that Nick Davies did with their back catalogue could be written off as "redudancy". As for greatest hits packages, those sort of projects are pushed by the record compay and not the artist as a way of continuing to make money from their investment. That's the way it goes in the music business and Genesis are no exception to that.

    Redundant in terms of CONTENT. To each his own (as usual) but I prefer something NEW.

    Never understood the complete dismissal of those early albums by the band and most fans.

    I always felt those two were virtually as good or as enjoyable as the albums that followed.

    Helliwell always talked disparagingly about that "album with a rose on the cover" during concerts. Frankly I've never actually listened to it.

    Great tracks, I'd add Come to Poppa, Till it Shines, Travelin' Man, Her Strut.

    The Hodgson-Davies juxtaposition was a bit like Frey-Henley in the Eagles. I only have Breakfast In America but I like a lot of their stuff.

    I still remember the Supertramp gig I saw in Niagara Falls in '77 (Livingston Taylor was the warm up). A great show, I saw them once more prior to Roger's departure, in Philadelphia, 1983. That was a whole different atmosphere, kind of a downer after Hodgson announced to the crowd that he was leaving. Rick was in a 'mood'.

    Also a big fan, I think the first album, Supertramp, from 1970, is their best. Post Hodgson they went downhill, and Hodgson's Eye of the Storm shows why. FLW is a poor album though, with 2 really good songs on side 2, C'est la bon and Don't Leave me now.


    Past comparisons on the forum have been between Supertramp and 10cc, (not big in the US I believe), and for my part, while I respect the musicianship and intellect of 10cc more, I only own their "best of", while I have several Supertramp albums.

    I think Crime of the Century has a slight edge over things like "Quietest Moments" and "Breakfast". But Crime is probably my personal favorite.

    I agree. That yin/yang, light/dark contrast between Hodgson and Davies is part of what made those albums so great.


    Having said that, I don’t mind the first post-Hodgson release, Brother Where You Bound — in fact I prefer it to the band’s previous release Famous Last Words.

    Roger was much disappointed over FLW, didn't feel it was a quality release at all, not a good last effort with Roger still in the band.

    I saw them for the first time in 1977, dynamite show. I lost interest when Roger Hodgson left however, not the band in it's truest form any longer. What MADE them Supertramp was the writing duo of Hodgson and Davies, along with their juxtaposing voices.


    Meanwhile, here is some film I shot of one of Roger's gigs:


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    I like it as well. In fact, I think Phil's singing is quite wonderful in it.


    It is a cover version, though - I think that is an under-known detail about the song. Phil either heard Patti LaBelle's version or (more likely) The Mindbenders' version. In any case, it's a good version.


    More about the song: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Groovy_Kind_of_Love

    I liked Phil's first 3 albums and SOME tracks thereafter. I wasn't enamored with his cover songs, the aforementioned included.

    I wouldn’t be too interested, though, in more jam sessions or studio outtakes where songs are being developed.

    As unique as they are, they’re a bit like a novel brand of candy – very enticing, but not very fulfilling.

    I find once I’ve satisfied my curiosity, I rarely search through my collection to hear them again.

    Conversely, I'd be more than open to more outtakes, demos and rehearsals not heard before, there is always something different with each one. They can keep all the 5.1's and so forth as far as I'm concerned, it's the same album I've heard countless times.