Posts by thewatcher

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Have been binge watching Star Trek . So far first 7 films.

For a change have really enjoyed The Favourite.

Star Trek 2 is a legitimately great movie. You don't have to be a fan of Sci Fi, I think it's an absolute classic.

3 is deeply underrated. 4 is pretty overrated. 1 is evenly rated I'd say. 5 is dire. Really, really dire. 6 was good. 7 is underrated too. 8 was terrific, probably the best after 2. The rest were forgettable. I don't even know how many more there were.

For the reboot, the first one was very very good, and the second one was gouge-my-eyes-out-NOW bad.

For movies, I'm waiting arrival of a deluxe DVD of David Lynch's Dune 😃.

Absolutely love Abacab. It has a special place in my heart. There's something more freeform and disinhibited about it than any of their other albums. Favorite tracks are the title track, Me and Sarah Jane and Keep it Dark, but it's all good. I even love the back end which feels hidden somehow because tracks like Like it or Not and Another Record are deep deep cuts (like Eddie Murphy's character in Beverly Hills Cop going deep deep undercover), and always feel fresh to me whenever I hear them.

Happy birthday Abacab!

Edit: giving it a 40th anniversary whirl and feeling more struck than before at the menace in that middle section of No Reply At All. It's all bright and breezy and then suddenly it stops and there's Phil yowling and the drums going half time. Very effective.

Not my usual fare. Pretty over the top. But I enjoyed it.

Quote from Backdrifter

(Or if Gabriel steps in).

Snap!

Seems to me like he's saying he'll be done. By extension of course that means Genesis, unless Tony and Mike decide to do something extremely unlikely. I needn't point out here that the band has two other front men they *could* call upon if they wanted.

There are two OutKast songs in the top 50, and no Pink Floyd ones? I like OutKast, but what the hell kind of list is this? Smells Like Teen Spirit is in the top 10 or something, but the Pixies song it's derived from (Gouge Away) isn't in the top 50. Or maybe not even the top 500, I'm not bothered looking through the whole thing.

And how will we ever know what the 501st best song of all time is 🥺??

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All of a sudden! Talking about 90s stuff prompted that, I suppose? I still think Wide Open Space is one of the best songs from that period, it does that thing really good songs can do, of having a real feeling of tension. I always liked Take It Easy Chicken as well. I think they were about to go on tour before touring ceased to be.

Yep! They had a really good tune on their album Six too, I think it was called 'Special/Blown It'. Surprised to hear about the potential tour, I thought they were still inert.

90s was a stellar decade for music IMO, though there's always great music if you're willing to dig around. I just think great music was abundant then and relatively accessible.

I was a pretty big fan around the time This Is My Truth came out, and worked backward from there. Richie Edwards brought quite a bit of Syd Barrett mystique to them, topped obviously with his disappearance. A Design for Life was a big hit when I was in school and for me, stood above some of the other stuff in the charts at the time (Oasis and Blur etc).

They played a lot on the festival circuit around then too (late 90s/early 2000) so I saw them a few times in that context. They always struck me as hard-working, which is maybe not the most noteworthy attribute you want to come away with from a band!

Same as others, my interest tailed off with the follow up to This Is My Truth as it seemed less interesting, and I never really rediscovered them. Wouldn't be averse to doing so however now that my memory has been prodded.

Might dig up a bit of Mansun too while I'm at it!

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Will everyone please promise to not post setlist details in this thread, only in the setlist spoilers thread! I don't want to know until I'm sat in the Glasgow Hydro in 2 weeks time.

In fact, from the start of the tour I think I'll simply avoid this entire board altogether, just in case.

Safest bet. Songs played are gonna be sprayed wall to wall across here, in lots of threads, in thread titles. I can imagine some new user going by the name "icantbelievetheyplayedsquonklastnight" popping up on the introduction thread.

Can't believe it's so soon now. Holding out hope that all goes smoothly and everyone has a blast.

Quote from absinthe_boy

Whether that all results in them actually playing something they haven't since the 70s or early 80s is still a bit of a mystery. Moonlit Knight looks certain to appear in some form, but while it was dropped from 83 to 07, it is still something of a favourite on other tours. Didn't they do a bit of it on the CAS tour too?

Yep, they did the opening bit as part of the acoustic set. It was a nice moment in the concert, Ray had a good voice for it.

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wouldn't know much about the Gabriel era and as far as I know is 'Carpet Crawlers' the only song from that era that may be on the setlist ?

I Know What I Like and Firth of Fifth have been major staples and I'd be surprised if neither were included. And I still hold out hope of something left field. Watcher of the skies or something they haven't done in a very long time.

Burnley 2-1 Arsenal

Liverpool 3-0 Crystal Palace

Norwich 0-0 Watford

Aston Villa 2-2 Everton

West Ham 1-2 Man Utd

Tottenham 0-2 Chelsea

Huddersfield 2-0 Nottm Forest

Peterborough 0-1 Birmingham

It is simply incomprehensible what she did. Does not compute.

She is the very definition of why sport is just brilliant. Young, unheralded, out of the blue, astounding skill, unbelievable poise in the face of huge pressure and pure joy reveling in what she is doing. And I could have written almost the same thing if her opponent had won!

Sensational.

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At the moment Pink Floyd are on at Earls Court 1994. Includes tracks from Dark Side of the Moon. I love this album.

from the Division Bell tour? Stunning. The light show for Comfortably Numb on that tour is mind-blowing. The played DSoTM completely and apparently did approach Roger Waters about joining them but he was still being a massive bollocks about the whole thing.

😭

Quote from AnythingNow

If I were Tony, Mike and Phil I wouldn't have allowed PBS to use recordings of any potentially surprising song choices. So I would like to think that there are one or two surprises left for us.

I think there's something in this. I've thought the same and hope it's true.

And she's gone and won it. Straight sets in the final. 20 sets in a row.

Beyond extraordinary.

Edit: let me go out on a limb here and predict that in the next 100 years, a qualifier is not going to win a grand slam without losing a set.

Love this tune.

Quote from The_Genesis_Archive

The British Tabloids had a field day, they took one source (the BBC) and they never cross referenced it. Non of them did any research either.

Phil's problems started in 1986, at the latter part of the Invisible Touch tour when he was prescribed Steroids for his voice. He was prescribed steroids whenever he had vocal problems on Genesis / Solo tours. The side effect of which means they can cause bone disorders in later life. This is from an interview in Genesis Information issue 44. "I had throat problems before Christmas" that would have been November/Dec for the New Zealand / Austrian dates.

Phil also broke his wrist during the Far Side Of The World tour - 1995, this was from an interview given in 1996 in a tabloid magazine which is issued on Sunday's. Phil mentions the use of prescribed steroids then to resolve vocal problems.

At some stage during the Turn It On Again tour (North American leg), Phil got back problems, and then in 2009 he had an operation to correct this. In Mario Giammetti's new book "Genesis 1975 to 2021" Tony banks is quoted to have said "I think it was performing Behind The Lines that did Phil's arms/back in"

From that point onwards he has had health issues, in particular not being able to hold a drum stick properly. Hence this is referenced in the making of Going Back.

Again this is research which took a few minutes, so the shock horror effect of poor journalism is not to be misunderstood. But sadly people are gullible and will soak it up!

Phil used a wheelchair during the Genesis rehearsals, because it was quicker for them to transport him from the car to the stage set up. It also reduced wear and tear on his body.

Still, the tour production rehearsals restart soon and then before we know it, it will be the first night.

Then the audience, fans and world will get to see Genesis in 2021.

Kind regards,

TGA

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I agree with your point that the recent spate of articles are clueless to Phil's recent history.

And he completed a big solo tour. And they have obviously rehearsed extensively for this tour.

And I - someone slated to see them on the last two shows of the North American leg of their tour, having only seen them before on the CAS tour - hope more than anyone that the world gets to see Genesis 2021.

But I think beyond the recent press, there's legitimate concern for Phil's health. Maybe the lighting and his head tilt showed him in a very unfavorable light in the recent interview but it looked to me like he has bad protein-energy malnutrition/muscle wasting. It's very uncomfortable for me as a huge fan to see these things and I'm obviously among like minded people here. I hope he's more ok than the interview suggests, or I can't see how a whole tour could possibly happen.