Posts by Witchwood

    ...I remember listening to it a lot during an unsettled time in my life however, and it's funny how those connections can carry forward...

    I can appreciate how personal experiences can influence one's feelings towards a song or album.

    PG3 came out when I was 15 turning 16, thinking about my future, assessing friendships, questioning how I fit in, was I a normal person – things that teens dwell on when they’re alone in the dark.

    So at that point an album of songs that touched on social alienation and madness seemed to speak to me on a personal level. The music was like nothing else I had heard from anyone else. I remember even being captivated by the strange lingering endings to some of the songs and thinking that every second had something unique to offer.

    40+ years later I have no doubt my love for this album is partially coloured by my memories of being so enraptured by it in my youth.

    'Melt' is not only my favourite Gabriel album, it's probably my favourite album to come out of the Genesis camp since Wind & Wuthering.

    Family Snapshot and No Self Control are my favourites. After that there's probably a three-way tie for third.

    I picked And Through The Wire knowing not many others would choose it but it was my favourite track on the album when it was a new release, and I still get a sentimental charge out of it whenever I hear it.

    In the US here, Madison Square Garden now has a policy of "no shot, no entry" basically, which means you can't attend any event without proof of a vaccine. This is a very dangerous path as far as I am concerned. This is a path toward segregation of the population which definitely rubs me the wrong way. I hope other venues choose differently.

    Under present circumstances I'm not averse to the idea, but I'm curious what kind of proof would have to be shown.

    Up in my neck of the woods, we just get a peel-off sticker that says "I've been vaccinated."

    Perhaps in other jurisdictions, they give you something with your name and an official stamp from local health authorities.

    ... I think many people would agree that the Earls Court Arena shows in May of ‘75 were their absolute peak...

    I think most Zep fans would say the band peaked in 71 or 72.

    Plant's voice was damaged during the 73 tour and after that he couldn't hit or hold some of the same high notes that he once did.

    I'm a huge fan, though, and I think they were great from beginning to end.

    Anyone know what the best recordings of that tour out there are? Anything like the Lyceum 1980 (I suspect not but thought I'd check!)?

    There are no soundboard or FM recordings from that leg of the tour (if that's what you were hoping for), but there is an audience recording from the Marquee Club in London, 27 Sept. 1982 which I have seen time and time again referred to as the best recording available from that tour.

    Tough to answer because I think there were peak moments at various points.

    We could argue that they recorded and subsequently performed their most challenging and complex music on the SEBTP tour. From recordings I've heard, Peter also seems far more engaging, more spontaneous in his responses to the audience or things happening on stage.

    Having said that, I also think they became a better oiled machine on later tours.

    For example, I think Firth of Fifth and Supper’s Ready were executed more flawlessly in 77, compared to the 73/74 tour.

    And, then with Phil as the frontman, I agree with others who suggest he just seemed to gain complete mastery of the audience by 1980. I think it also helped with Duke that they were still, for the most part, recording and also performing songs that appealed to all eras of Genesis fans.

    I thought it was one of his best albums and it's certainly one of my favourites.

    It also seemed to reaffirm the fact I'm a poor judge when it comes to identifying commercially viable music.

    There were at least 2 or 3 songs on this album that I thought would warrant radio play, would draw wider attention or even some discussion about his solo career.

    Of course, it generated no attention, no radio play and left me shaking my head.

    As for favourites, there are four songs that really stand out for me: Another Murder, Angel Face, Red Day and Still It Takes Me.

    I chose the first three in the poll, but could have easily switched any of them with the latter.

    I've seen several others express the same view about Secret World. It seems to be a widely held view and I'm probably in the minority in that I get more of an adrenaline rush from the studio version. The bass is more prominent and the build-up in that song is driven by that bottom end.

    I certainly agree with you, though, on WOTW. It's similar to me as Here Comes The Flood.

    Virtually every live version I've heard seem more heart-wrenching than the original.

    TWTS for me is part of the second tier of great Hackett albums that I would group with Darktown, Guitar Noir and Bay of Kings.

    Not quite in the same class with the first four (VOTA to Defector). But still very enjoyable, nonethess, with some top-notch material.

    The two opening tracks, Strutton Ground and Circus of Becoming, are my favourites.

    For me, Burn You Up Burn You Down is missing on UP

    It was part of the first promo CD and that fitted well. It was a mistake to save it for a later release

    I agree. It would have been my second-favourite song (after I Grieve) and would have made Up an even more powerful album.

    If I had to pull a song to make it fit, I could have gone without Barry Williams.

    ...after having heard David with Big Big Train, I would have definitely preferred him. Also, I have the feeling, after having heard Ray's solo career and David's contribution to the band, he would have been a better fit in the songwriting department.

    My concern would be if Longdon ended up getting the Genesis gig and they just recorded that one album, David would forever be an ignoble footnote in the history of Genesis and carrying a lot of baggage.

    Would BBT have even hired him? With Nick d'Virgilio as the drummer, half the fans attending BBT shows would be baying for songs off CAS.

    While I agree Mike and Tony made the wrong choice, I am very happy with the way things unfolded with them selecting Ray instead.

    I think the world is a better place with David being musically unfettered in BBT.


    This is an interesting observation. I know TB is central to Genesis, but there is not a single song from his solo career I would place above the lowest Genesis track. Maybe, *maybe* something like Queen of Darkness over Hold on my Heart. I find the overwhelming majority of his solo work doesn't really sound 'like' Genesis. I think most of it would have been rejected by Mike and Phil.


    I have a vastly differing view.

    I can think of six Genesis albums that I would choose A Curious Feeling over.

    To me, ACF is the closest any solo release ever came to sounding like Genesis.

    And there are at least close to half a dozen individual tracks from other albums of Tony's that I think would have been among the highlights if they initially appeared on certain Genesis albums.

    ... and Fountain are solid songs, with the latter probably being my least favorite on the album.

    Always interesting to see completely differing views from people who share a passion for the same band.

    Fountain of Salmacis is not only my top track from that album, it's probably my overall favourite song by Genesis.