Posts by Wayne

    I have just checked the prices of those albums on eBay and the prices on Acoustic Sound are very favourable indeed , on eBay Nursery Cryme is over £300 - $400 at the moment so their prices for those three albums are very competitive and You would get a guarantee as well - in a nutshell if I had the money I’d be buying them now!. I didn’t know they were even released !. Acoustic Sounds only sell top quality sounding albums at the higher prices that’s their speciality. Anything over $200 must either be rare as hens teeth or sound superlatively brilliant.

    Stupid question.


    On that website (acoustic sounds) there are Genesis albums from the "hobson collection" or something for $250. What is the hobson collection?

    I know what it is now those albums were pressed on the Classic Records Label - they pressed some of the best sounding records of the last 30 years probably up to the level of the original UK pressings on Charisma in the early 1970s possibly a lot better. They are hard to come by and will cost those prices . Also the Classic Records were pressed on premium vinyl / lovely thick album jackets. I have one in my collection and paid over £100 each and not archive quality - which basically mean mint condition. I have an Alan Parsons Project “ I Robot “ album. Sadly none of those Genesis titles.

    I am mystified why there has been no revisiting of the box set packages. It really is beyond my comprehension when all these other artists are releasing shed loads of stuff. I mean look at Crimson a massive box set with everything related to “ITCOTCK” and what do we Genesis fans get an orange vinyl!!. Those box sets just sold for over £1000 on eBay for the set, its high time they looked to releasing stuff for the fans rather than living on memories and hopes of something more!. Look at Neil Young he’s practically releasing an album every two months from his Archives!.

    I’m guessing that no one Involved directly with the band and releasing of product looks at this site?, or they would appreciate our desire for more things to purchase. With the current concert situation a lot of groups are revisiting those back catalogues to raise money to keep afloat until things improve. I’m guessing Phil and the boys can’t be in the same situation?.

    On a similar note I had an open air show booked for June this year which has now been put back three months to September 21st. You would have hopefully thought that an Open air concert event in June would be feasible ?. How they consider three months is going to make a difference !!. And to boot all the hotel and transport particulars that I’ve had booked to re arrange (got a great deal on the hotel which for the new date is £40 more!!) . The group is Biffy Clyro if anyone is interested. So now every concert that I’ve got booked has had an alternative date pencilled in now, some of them have been changed twice and one show three times. As yet I’ve had no doubling up of dates which is a miracle but there is time !!.

    funny discussion

    I'd rather have the stuff that's unavailable re-released (i.e. the SACD) on an appropriate format (Blu-ray audio?)

    Then there's When In Rome ... Blu-ray?


    I don't need, and don't want anything in Dolby Atmos

    me to I honestly don’t know why they did the one release of these boxes, why oh why go to all that effort to just release them the once. There are probably thousands of new fans who want them as much as old fans who missed out like me. Surely the groups management see the ridiculous prices these are been asked for on eBay and consider to re issue them all again. Wouldn’t hurt to repress a couple of 1,000 of each !. They could gladly take my money now but ebays prices of between £200 for the last box to £600 for the first box is a rich mans hobby!. I would love to ask Tony Banks why they just put them out once !!. SACD is more popular today then it was in 2008 , look at the Analogue Productions and Mobile Fidelity labels they still sell loads of them?.

    Can’t see these shows happening at all this year just got news Steven Wilson has completely cancelled his tour now. Also Nick Mason Saucerful of Secrets have yet again cancelled the twice re arranged dates. No chance. Was feeling optimistic due to the vaccine roll out been such a success, but I didn’t factor in the people from abroad whom have probably bought a lot of tickets. Unfortunately I doubt they will be able to come to the UK to see these shows. Just ain’t going to happen, this virus is causing never ending cancellations and it’s showing no sign of getting any better sadly.

    The mobile fidelity is miles ahead of anything I’ve heard of this album, it’s far superior, Even though I don’t have the SACD (I Know I keep banging on about by them getting released again), I have heard it and to me it isn’t anywhere as good sonically. Entangled sounds delightful on this vinyl as does everything else on it. You know your in for a treat as soon as the guitar intro starts. When I first bought it I couldn’t believe it, I had a Technics 1210 then and it sounded lovely , I now have a Technics SP-10 (old radio surplus turntable with direct drive which is easier to use). The album sounds better as you go up the turntable scale. Like you I’m not wealthy and never had any money to speak of but have gradually worked my way up to a fairly good record player which doesn’t cost the Earth. Hi Fi is a very diminishing terms pursuit just because something costs £20,000 doesn’t mean it sounds 20 times better than a £1000 turntable, the improvement isn’t that significant as You increase price but the backgrounds are more dark and the soundstage opens up I’ve found. Same with cartridges. I’ve just saved up for a £300 one from my £40 Ortofon and the difference is significant.

    Audio luddite here in peace. I love it when music sounds great. If streaming or downloading I try to get the highest quality files I can (flac or what). I enjoy vinyl although the time I get to listen to it is short these days... I have a pair of elac bookshelf speakers I *think* sound great and I just treated myself to a pair of sennheiser wireless over ear headphones. I will occasionally research different vinyl releases to see what's thought to sound good.


    So I am interested in this topic. I have to ask... Is there no upper limit to improvement in audio quality? In other words, what is it about this golden egg of Genesis vinyl that would sound so much better than the best commercially available one? Beyond a certain point, how can the aural quality of drums, guitars, keyboards and other instruments be enhanced in their journey from the musician making the sound 45 years ago to the sound entering my eardrum today? Is the goal to get as close as possible to being in the room where the sound was made at the time the sound was made?

    I have a lot of high quality pressings and high resolution files, I actually think that if a record is recorded well in the first place, whether that be live or studio there is as technology progresses further and further improvements sonically, well I have found that myself.Some 1950s/1960s jazz pressings sound astounding to my ears. Take for example Dave Brubecks “Time Out” classic album on the Analogue Productions cut (the company the chap in the video owns), this was recently released on a double 45 RPM pressing and you would swear that the drum solo was in the room with you. I do a lot of my listening via a good quality headphone amplifier (Ifi Micro idsd black label) which decodes all the high resolutions like DSD 128 ( a 40 minute album in the format would take up a whopping 7-8Gb of space on its own ) and through that from my MacBook Pro into Sennheiser HD800S headphones some of the sounds are astonishing. I do think that you can clearly notice a bad recording and such bad recordings only sound worse when they try to up the resolutions to re issue them.


    If you are interested in checking out some of these titles, I would recommend the following albums if you haven’t heard them already


    Harry Belafonte live at Carnegie Hall on Analogue Productions

    Muddy Waters - Folk Singer - Mobile Fidelity standard and SACD also same album on Acoustic Sounds.

    Alison Krauss & Union Station - Live MFSL


    most of the stuff pressed by Acoustic Sounds is great , another one which I would strongly recommend and has just been re pressed is the Captain and Me - Doobie Brothers (Speakers Corner Records ) - moderate priced at the moment but amazingly sounding.

    I do think the sound of many titles that I own on vinyl has improved on some pressings and most certainly some of the recent re issues of albums on SACD and blu ray audio give you deeper insight into what was going on , on many of the albums we thought we knew. I listened to a Pat Metheny blu ray audio of the album I like called the Way Up and you could clearly hear the drummer throw a percussive instrument over his shoulder and it land on the floor. I actually watched the bluray again to confirm he had done this, and it shows him doing it but I didn’t notice it before after many listening on a basic equipment set up !. I do think what you say is the ultimate goal getting as near sonically to the timbres of the recording studio and many of these high resolution or pure vinyl pressings are achieving that even on modest equipment.

    I only found it existed yesterday and I to am as envious as it’s possible to be !, there can’t be that many of them around and he has two of them!. The fact it is on UHQR surely means mobile fidelity had the option of releasing it back in the day and pressed it as a test but decided to abandon going any further.

    I think there were only around 8 or 9 original UHQR released


    Cat Stevens - Tea for the Tillerman

    Floyd - DSOTM

    Alan Parsons Project - I Robot

    Beatles - Sgt Pepper

    Holst - The Planets

    Supertramp - Breakfast in America


    and a couple of others that I can’t remember off hand , all go for silly money now probably over £300 each for the lesser titles. Heaven knows how much this would sell for as it’s never been heard by fans like us and no doubt the band haven’t heard it either. I can only think that sonically it’s the holy grail of Genesis vinyl , the standard Mofi is brilliant I shudder to think how good this one will sound !. Maybe if we both start doing a line on the Lottery every week we can put an offer in!, I’m sure they are actually beyond any reasonable prices. What price could you put on records that no one has ever had the chance to hear before ?. I think one of the other titles was by Guitarist Earl Klugg and another was a classical / opera album, but I am uncertain.

    I was watching a video yesterday of Chad the Owner of Analogue Productions and Acoustic Sounds showing some of his rare records. They were all white label pressings which he had come by due to being high up in the audiophile vinyl World. I was amazed to see him lift up an unreleased version of Trick of The Tail on the Mobile Fidelity UHQR label!!. apparently this was pressed but not released , what I would give for one of those. As you may know the UHQR by mobile fidelity were released on a handful of titles including Dark Side of The Moon / SGT Pepper etc in black boxes. If they had only released this title in the format as well as the standard version. Would I love to hear that. I guess it would be worth a small fortune and I bet it sounds sensational!.

    I would like to ask If at all possible would he possibly consider asking about re issuing those Genesis Green/Red/Blue box sets in Blu Ray Audio or the original SACD format. And also why haven’t those particular versions been re issued again for fans like me who missed out first time around.