Not sure that pointing out the very narrow scope of her top 10 is "picking it apart at the sub-atomic level"
Posts by Henry Hamilton-Smythe
Some interesting choices here, like Never a Time?! Also some interesting nuggets - I never knew Driving the Last Spike charted on the billboard 200. Also some inaccuracies at first glance.
9 of the 10 are from IT or WCD. Truly a deep dive into their history
5. Like most of Hackett’s more recent stuff, it does nothing for me. Some ok sections, but doesn’t work as a whole
Got mine in the mail today. Might be a while til I get a chance to read it, as I already have a large stack of books yet to be read.
I'll post some thoughts after I've read it.
Today, his reaction video was for 'Stagnation'
The thread that won’t go away
I really like Say its alright Joe, until it gets to the instrumental part when it seems Tony reverts back to an 8yr old with a new keyboard hitting the sound affect buttons thinking it's cool.
The instrumental section is by far the best part of the song. And it’s not even that good of an instrumental section.
I’m not sure how your post even relates to this old, old thread.
Oh I'll take
over the sub-Adrian Mole "beware the fisherman casting out his line into a dried-up riverbed" every time!
EDIT: though on reflection the fisherman one is at least amusing
Different strokes for different folks.....I absolutely love the "beware the fisherman" lines
Not one of my favorite Genesis albums, but absolutely love this track.
The rehearsals are very similar here. As for marketing - don't tell me that the lack of a band website for 6 years is normal, because it's not normal. Therefore, those who deal with marketing in this team (marketing directors, their subordinates) - should simply leave their positions. Life experience teaches me (I'm a young person) that you have to fight for everything, drill yourself, search. I do exactly the same at work and I get results. I'm surprised that people who know management well don't suggest anything, don't ask them - and maybe release this and that, hire sound and video engineers. I'll bet 100% that even such an attempt has not been made.
Lack of a band website for 6 years.....for a band that last recorded any new material more than 25 years ago. For a band that has flat out said they're done. Seems reasonable to me.
In various posts, you've talked about hiring 10-15 sound engineers to release more concerts. Do you know how expensive that would be? Do you really think they'd make a profit?
This band has released 6 live albums. They've released another 4-5 discs worth of live material on box sets. They're releasing a new 5 disc set, of which 4 discs are live. I think they've released more live material than most bands. Sure, there's stuff I'd like that they've never officially released......but that stuff is pretty readily available as bootlegs.
As far as the rehearsals.....I'm a guy that owns about 200 CDs worth of Genesis + solo material....and I would have zero interest in buying rehearsals. I'm guessing I'm not the only one.
I know I'm beating a dead horse, but I've got nothing else to do.
Blimey. In my attempt to get it from Barnes and Noble (see Backdrifter comment re Amazon) I discovered an academic book from 2008 about TLLDOB. Seemingly by a professor of musicology in Kentucky. I'd say this is a dense read!
I have that one. It wasn't as academically dense as I expected.
I've heard of The Movement, but what are Little Leaf and Wooden Mask?!
Here's a link that might help ya
Absolutely this. Added to which, remember this part of the thread has focused in on the staggeringly doolally notion that Genesis, of all bands, would commercially release rehearsals. REHEARSALS.
100% agree with this post, although I had to look up the word "doolally"
On the BBC One Show they were interviewed in the wake of Sum Of The Parts/RKive. When asked about possible future release of any unheard material Banks gave a very definite "No". When pressed on it he said "I'm the band's archivist and I'm telling you there is absolutely nothing left to release".
I've seen that same interview. I'm not sure if he was specifically talking about live recordings. I'm thinking he might have meant that there are no previously unreleased songs available or release. Things like "Little Leaf", "Wooden Mask", "The Movement", etc. I didn't take it as necessarily ruling out further live releases.
Like many on here, I'm disappointed they're not releasing any complete concerts on this box set, but I'll take whatever I can get. Maybe if this thing sells enough, they'll consider releasing some full concerts.
A lot. :)))))))) The group of fans on Facebook alone has 30,000 people. One! Did you see how many people watched the rehearsal video for the 1992 tour? 97 thousand. So that should give you something to think about.
97,000 views. Could be that there's people who watched it multiple times, so less than 97,000 different viewers, perhaps a lot less. Even if there were 97,000 individual viewers, do you really think they would all buy a release of this material? I've watched a lot of things on youtube that I would never buy.
How many units do you think they would need to sell to make it worthwhile to them? This is a band that became accustomed to selling multiple millions of copies of each release. I'm not sure they'd see it as worthwhile to release something that might sell 25,000-50,000 copies.
You know - I understand everything, really. But 30 years have passed. More. It certainly has commercial value, but wouldn't it be better to put these CDs on the internet and pay for them? Damn! I would and a lot of fans would too. They would make money and the fans would be happy. Therefore, forgive me - but I do not understand that they do not want to let it go public. Yes, no young fan of the band will ever hear that. An offer is made - these CDs cost so much, please pay. I don't understand this extreme stubbornness, especially since rehearsal songs are a nightmare!
Does it really have commercial value? How many people out there do you think would buy a CD/album/download of a band's rehearsals?
I'm an avid collector of all things Genesis, but I'm not sure I'd even have interest in something like this.
Liked it a lot when it first came out, but like most of the album, my opinion of it has gone down over the years. 10 for me.
8 for me. I bought all the Brand X albums when they came out, but could never really get into it. I'm not really a jazz-fusion fan, although I've tried. Great musicianship, but no memorable songs.
Boy Tony must have something against Abacab and the full version of Tonight, Tonight, Tonight. They were probably the best songs on that show.
Not sure why Tony is being singled out here. Seems to me that the band doesn't particularly love these tunes as they haven't played the full version of Tonight, Tonight, Tonight since 1986 or anything from Abacab since the IT tour. Phil was the one who couldn't get into Abacab when they were rehearsing for 2007 tour. But sure, it's all Tony's fault.
But, I do agree that I wish they were on this release.
My expectations are zero.
My hopes are for the rumored Cherry Red reissue of a deluxe From Genesis to Revelation and for some previously unreleased live material.