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Posts by Duke of Earl of Mar
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I would rank it as one of Genesis’ top 15 studio albums.
As I said earlier, it's not a bad album at all, but probably too long, with 3 or 4 songs that could have been ditched, because to me they don't add anything interesting.
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I would argue that both the title track & Dodo/Lurker from Abacab continue the 'fantasy' theme if that's what you wish to call it.
Yes, but by "fantasy" I don't mean the subject of a song (or the vague theme for an album). To me (and from what I've understood, to Eclipse also), it's more about the music itself, the atmosphere it carries (from ethereal, like the acoustic part of Cinema Show, Blood On The Rooftops, Snowbound, or Heathaze... to bombastic epic things like Watcher, Apocalypse, Eleventh Earl of Mar, Duke's Travels...). All those things that generated images or dreams in my head when I was younger... When you're young you associate things in your head (sounds, pictures...), even if it doesn't make any sense. You're making up stories (I was...).
I discovered Abacab later, so it's maybe because my brain had matured at that time that the music didn't have the same power of bringing images into my head...
It's probably why, to this day, I'm so attached to this 1970-1980 period.
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I really like all eras of the band, but I am more of a fan of their more "fairly-tale"-like pastoral sound which was so strong in their 70's albums.
While I consider an album like Invisible Touch amazing due to its clever compositions, for example, I miss that atmosphere but then I listen to post-70's Genesis when I'm in the mood for something different than the 70's era. They were amazing throughout the many styles they tried.
I think exactly the same...
To me, it goes from Trespass to Duke (included). Or from Stagnation to Duchess to illustrate this on a song basis. I started with W&W when I was a child, so I'm quite attached to this "dreamy" sound.
After, from Abacab onwards, to my ears it changes. But if we have in mind the history of the band, at that time, it changed for them too. Abacab was meant to show it. Their writing process evolved drastically from that point. They were becoming "real adults" in their 30's. Tony Banks explained that was why they couldn't go on with their older way of doing/thinking about things... Even if some elements were still there from time to time.
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That's not spoken. It's just sung in an unusually low voice for Phil.
In my memory (I don't listen to this song very often) it was spoken, but you're right.
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15.
Probably my favourite song (but I have to say that I have many favourite Genesis songs...). So, maybe my favourite-favourite song.
The moment that I love the most may be the little synth melody right before the chorus.
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"They're gonna change you into a human being!" - Phil chattering in Willow Farm
Is it him ? For years, I've been wondering whose voice it is...
EDIT : Actually, I've just come up with a theory about those high-pitched voices (and the "Mum to mud to mad to Dad" segment). They may have recorded these with their real voice but with the instrumental tape playing at a lower speed, so the overall pitch also gets down. Then, after the recording, they put the tape back at normal speed > Chipmunk effect done. So, it could be Phil. Or Peter. Or Tony. Or Mike. Who knows ?
And the line just before is also spoken : "Fly away you sweet little thing they're hard on your tail..."
(Is that right ? I'm French, I consider myself quite good in English, but still... What does it mean ?).
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No actual lyrics for it, but there is also that moment in the middle of Illegal Alien, when Phil is playing trumpet, there's a telephone ringing, and we hear a lot of chat...
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There's also the bit in Dodo leading into the Lurker segment "Meanwhile lurking by a stone in the mud..."
Oh I forgot, same album :
"Cause You Know We like It" at the end of Another Record.
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Phil in Robbery, Assault And Battery :
"He was completely surrounded."
Phil at the end of Match Of The Day :
"You see that goal in the second half..." etc...
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Lucky Me
A Curious Feeling
By You
The More i Hide It
An Island In The Darkness
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Star of Sirius
Hoping Love Will Last
Icarus Ascending
Every Day
Spectral Mornings
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Time And Time Again
Every Road
Compression
Overnight Job
Taken In
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Ok, let's try :
Cinema Show
Entangled
Blood On The Rooftops
Many Too Many
Duchess
But I've come to a point where I like all Genesis songs anyhow...
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Here Comes The Flood (album version)
White Shadow
No Self Control
San Jacinto
In Your Eyes
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This Must Be Love
Hand In Hand
Why Can't It Wait Till Morning
Take Me Home
I Wish It Would Rain Down
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Here are my favourites from the Hackett albums I’ve listened to (and I realise that I don't know Steve's stuff that much...):
Voyage: Star of Sirius
Please Don’t Touch: Hoping Love Will Last
SM: Spectral Mornings
Defector: The Steppes
Cured: Picture Postcard
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We Can't Dance, probably too long to be played on a single vinyl, but it works on a 60-minute-tape (because I try to be coherent with what was able at the time for release...).
SIDE 1 1 No Son Of Mine Banks, Collins, Rutherford 06:45 2 Driving The Last Spike Banks, Collins, Rutherford 10:09 3 Jesus He Knows Me Banks, Collins, Rutherford 04:17 4 Dreaming While You Sleep Banks, Collins, Rutherford 07:17 TOTAL SIDE 1 28:28 SIDE 2 1 On The Shoreline Banks, Collins, Rutherford 04:50 2 Hold On My Heart Banks, Collins, Rutherford 04:39 3 I Can’t Dance Banks, Collins, Rutherford 04:02 4 Living Forever Banks, Collins, Rutherford 05:42 5 Fading Lights Banks, Collins, Rutherford 10:28 TOTAL SIDE 2 29:41 TOTAL TIME 58:09 I agree, we loose 3 (edit : actually, 4) songs, but I always thought the album was a bit too long... I think it works a lot better that way, especially the last three songs.
B sides :
Never A Time > No Son of Mine
Way Of The World > Jesus He Knows Me
Since I Lost You > I Can't Dance
Hearts on Fire > Hold On My Heart
Tell Me Why > On The Shoreline
Setlist :
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