Posts by choccy

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Sorry to learn that. A regular cold can be debilitating enough. If it's an especially bad one, that's really rough. Keep warm, have hot drinks, keep your protein intake up and rest up. Hope it eases off soon.

Thanks

So basically, you have a few symptoms for a few days then after like 2 days, your energy just goes and your head kills and then after 2 more days the fever and cold etc all come in one big hit.

Also i've seen Covid cases rising alot again and so with that and this new bug plus the winter flu season coming, it's going to be a difficult winter for many it seems.

What was interesting From Darryl, he said that if Genesis had of toured again after the 2007 Tour, then he would have expected they would have had to record a new album, because they couldn't do another show like that again with no new material and it's probably why it didn't happen, along with Phil's issues, Phil was set against it at that point to record an album and tour anyhow.

I still feel, they should have done one more album around 95 / 96 and called it a day.

How much Genesis stuff did Phil do after he left, lots! Songbooks and documentaries and other stuff all around early 2000 era. **

Correction** Phil was singing Genesis songs even on TV specials in 1998, so again another weird way to leave the band and yet carrying on signing the songs etc.

I think Phil made a mistake sadly to not give it another album.

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I've heard about the nasty cold virus but not about this supposed harsher effect on covid-vaccinated people. Where have you heard that?

Been in the news.

Also I now have it myself

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That may be the case, technically. But there are quite a few Genesis tribute bands, and one of them is led by former member Steve Hackett. I saw a Genesis Revisited show by Hackett when he was in Stockholm a few years ago and it was a great experience, and I think I've managed to buy all live CDs he as issued during recent years. However, I definitely prefer the contemporary Genesis playing songs from their own past. In plain text Genesis in 2021 has three musicians who have been with the group for more than 50 years plus Daryl (40+ years). This means that when Genesis perform their songs there is the personal and emotional bond to these songs, that can't be achieved by putting together a tribute band. There's certainly nothing wrong when a solo artist performs songs from his former band, but it will always be a solo concert with things being a lot different than the mother band.

I agree, this isn't a tribute band, this is Genesis!

That's also why Ray Wilson failed, Tony was too stubborn back then, he told Darryl and Chester they were not wanted (Darryl was on tour with Phil at time of rehearsals anyhow) but I think he and Mike should have been more patient, waited to get Ray on board and write together and use a different name., because, it wasn't Genesis.

Tony at least admits to it now, he got it wrong.

It's a little sad, when Darryl says, he never felt like part of the band. Fans consider he and Chester a huge part of the group, even if they are not on the albums.

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There is a new super cold bug down in the south of England, making it's way up north, it's wiping people out and seems to affect people who have been vaccinated harder for some reason.

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That's easy to say now; at the time, he didn't know it wasn't something that could be solved through treatment. He might've thought he could try that and if it worked, go back on tour in a year or two. I doubt he'd have immediately abandoned live drumming without at least trying a cure.

Where did you hear about the Aus/HK etc tour?

The 2008 tour is well documented in interviews with Darryl & Chester.

They were told to hold the dates & it was actually Darryl who told Tony Smith, that Phil had said he wasn't doing it.

Tony went off & came back and said, yup, we're not doing it.

I think re Phils initial diagnosis & surgery, what they assumed was the cause of his loss of feeling in his hand wasn't what they did surgery on, hence he had multiple different surgeries and that clearly didn't help him sadly, but did highlight he had various issues to deal with.

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I'm surprised they're doing as many dates as they are tbh.

In the 2007 documentary Phil says "you can do more than 20 shows if you want but you'll be doing them without a singer"...

But in the recent documentary, Tony or Mike says something like "no doubt our manager is working on other dates".

From accounts posted here, Phil's voice appears to be improving with the tour. And I dare say that has bolstered his confidence.

But I can't see them doing much more if any. I really don't think Phil is in a good way in himself. I think he's doing this tour primarily for his son.

Quite what Phil will do with himself after this is anyones guess. I don't think it's going to be healthy for him.

A shame they didn't use lockdown to write just one new song... a swan-song. Floyd did Louder Than Words and whilst it didn't change the world, it didn't hurt either.

Enjoy it while it lasts, the show was great and I'm still debating going to London to see them again!

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Tony Smith the manager had booked in 2008 a tour of Australia, South America and Hong Kong I think it was, Darryl and Chester had it all booked up, apparently Tony Smith was the only one who didn't know that Phil had said No to doing it.

Obviously after 2007 USA tour, Phil had all his issues develop but he could have sang, even if he decided not to drum.

The worse thing historically for Phil was just stopping and giving up working, even if he couldn't play drums, he had everything else going for him, writing, producing and singing wise.

I was thinking earlier, that it's likely the 3 younger members that were the ones who potentially tested positive.

The Main members are more likely to keep to themselves etc, although it doesn't mean it wasn't any of them either.

Poxy virus.

Was looking forward to seeing them

Other day I started Supper's Ready as soon as I got on my train, the song literally finished as I reached my destination.

Will play this every time now I get on.

So when do we think the London shows will be rescheduled for?

The o2 seems to have some open dates after 18th October, I don't know what the isolation period is, but maybe 20th onwards is doable roughly?

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For reasons that escape my famously feeble mind when it comes to anything tech I can’t figure out how to upload the link to the statement and put it on here. The normal option to copy the link is not appearing on YouTube (I have managed to copy links to videos and pasted them here in the past). Long story somewhat shorter what’s on YouTube is simply the statement that the band released that I believe by now everyone has probably read somewhere.

It was probably just the press release.

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I feel very bad for the band and the fans... Judging from the videos, their performances were getting better and better (They were not bad of course, but this Glasgow performance is very, very good).

Particularly Phil's timing. Really impressive. I think doing music and shows could be his medication...

By the way, He kind of forgot to sing the second verse on Turn It On Again during a few seconds... Funny. The performance is here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb6_LMyJ12g

I feel they were always aiming to finish the UK tour in London strong, building up as they went along before hitting America.

I feel the UK fans are more forgiving than perhaps some of the American markets, I hope it all goes positively over there for everyone.

This tour is a bonus, seeing all four of them again, plus the beginnings of Nic is a great thing to cherish.

Been feeling really rough last few days, took a test today and it was Negative.

Gotta love the cold season kicking in now also to complicate things

I wonder if Phil

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WARNING! DON'T READ THIS IF EASILY OFFENDED. I knew friends of Mrs Farmer were at the same show as us . We didn't meet up. Mrs Farmer texted them asking where they were not long before the start. They said waiting for food. We assumed they were on the queue on concourse. They were in a nearby pub . They missed the start because their food was late.

I thought Supper's Ready no?

Quote from Schrottrocker

Let me guess: "Phil Collins, who divorced his ex-wife via fax,..."

More like,

The lazy son of a b*tch who can't be bothered to drum or even stand during his performances, who also divorced his ex wife by fax etc etc

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Reading a statement the band released on YouTube it’s clear that a) they are very upset about having to postpone the shows, and b) they will almost certainly schedule new dates for these 4 canceled shows.

I've not located anything official on YouTube aside from other people's uploads quoting the press release only.

Makes me laugh when articles say, Phil has sat at some of the shows and Phil was last off the stage last night.

Like really. This Journos are just clueless hacks thesedays with zero knowledge

They probably found out within an hour even 2 of the show beginning and was too late to cancel and well they were all together at that point so probably limited backstage access to band only etc.

Few mistakes from everyone aside and Phil getting used to singing, let alone the complex Genesis songs, they are doing great and still command the stage from everything I've seen and heard.