I've never warmed to this song for some reason.
Phil in his mid life crises period.
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Display MoreA curiosity: why didn't Chester Thompson play on Both Sides Tour?
The Band Group
Phil Collins : vocals, drums, piano, tambourine
Nathan East : bass, vocals
Daryl Stuermer : guitar
Ricky Lawson : drums
Brad Cole : keyboards
Amy Keys : backing vocals, vocals
Arnold McCuller : backing vocals, vocals
The Vine Street Horns
Harry Kim : trumpet
Daniel Fornero : trumpet
Andrew Woolfolk : saxophone
Arturo Velasco : trombone
Phil stated that he wanted to freshen things up a little.
I also believe Chester had taken some time out at this point to spend more time with his family.
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I believe he said he hoped it would be released by late 2023.
Not sure what the big delay is, I'm sure there is a reason or some promotional tie in perhaps for this. Time will reveal all I guess......
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it's been documented several times, that Mike wrote land of confusion as his protest song.
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PHIL: ...I stopped, wound down the window and said, 'Get in.' He said no, that was OK, he'd speak to me or call me later. I thought, 'Fine, maybe he has something to do before he goes to the studio.' I got to Trident, parked, went in and told the others I had just seen Steve. Mike and Tony said, 'Oh, haven't you heard, he didn't tell you? He's left.' I know that Steve has his own take and his own feeling about what happened that day and I realise now I may have underestimated him a little.
STEVE: ...So I phoned Mike and said, 'I think I should leave', and he didn't try and talk me out of it. He knew I wasn't happy by then. 'Fine Steve, if that's what you want to do.' And then I bumped into Phil in the street either the same day or the following day. He asked, 'Aren't you going to the studio?' and I said, 'No, I'm not, I'm... Speak to Mike, he'll explain.' I just couldn't bring myself to say the words, couldn't face talking to Phil about it. And I know that he feels slighted by the fact I wasn't able to, but I thought that if I did speak to him, he might just talk me out of it and convince me to stay. If he and I had had a conversation and I'd gone through the reasons why I felt the need to leave, perhaps I would have gained an ally. Instead of which my mind was made up, I wanted to leave. It was very much Hello, I Must Be Going! And it's not that I didn't love Phil and not that I didn't respect him - and maybe for all the wrong reasons he'll have felt snubbed for the past thirty years - but the fact is I felt I couldn't say anything within a band concept any more.
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[Genesis - Chapter & Verse, 2007, p.186)
Did you type All of that out?
Is there an online version of the book somewhere ?
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I am fortunate to own this book having purchased when it came out, but I do wonder why it was never re-printed again or made available for digital media.
It would seem like a good seller, as there are many people who don't have this, or those like me, who would love a digital version.
Will we ever see it?
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I bet they feel like a right bunch of idiots now.
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I remember last year Darryl saying in an interview, that Phil told him back in 1994 that he had quit Genesis but hadn't told the guys yet, which he did late 95 or early 96 I'm guessing.
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$300m is very cheap considering the body of work they got from 3 solo artists and a huge major band.
Bob Dylan and Bruce Springstone alone got $500 & $400m each.
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Wonder what the split was between PC and TB song rights?...hopefully Tony has got over his frustration at Phil being more popular and is laughing at his replenished bank account 🤣
It was reported that Phils solo work was being shopped around for $200m dollars before this deal, according to BBC News.
So Concord got a real bargain!
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Finally my generation and younger will hear Genesis and Phil right.
However, I am completely surprised. I wonder if this catalog also includes trials. I suspect so.Phil's divorce trials?
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Publishing rights sold for $300m
Includes Phil, Tony and Mike's Solo work and all Genesis albums (featuring Phil only).
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According to the article, Phil HAS A CONTRACT to sell his recordings and Genesis (non-Peter's era) for $ 300 million.
Just came onto forum as I saw this news also.
It's all of Phils, Mike and Tony's solo work and all Genesis albums featuring Phil.
The new owners promising to bring Genesis to today's market.
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I will have to be boring and pick Supper's Ready, followed closely by Watcher Of The Skies.
My two picks also
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I have to say I've never been hugely fond of the studio version of The Fountain Of Salmacis. I first heard it on Three Sides Live where it sounded terrific but when I finally heard the studio version it sounded bloody awful. Of course, John Anthony's muddy production didn't help but the drums sounded tubby, Gabriel's thick voice swallowed up everything in its path and the guitar solo didn't grab me the same way it did when I heard Daryl play it. My favourite version of the song remains the one from Dijon in 1978.
I agree, a lot of the older genesis albums sound way inferior to the Live versions.
TBH Phil Live was so much stronger than Peter on many Album songs.
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Interestingly, I just posted elsewhere a comment about whether they can get the audio decent enough from the last tour to ever release and Nick here says, it won't be good enough for release and also mentions that Phil sounded really bad in pre production and he didn't think it would actually happen.
A real shame to see Phil struggling so much the last few years.
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Interesting to see Nic release some production footage from live shows.
I guess if it's released, a lot will come down to the sound quality and splicing audio mistakes perhaps, hence maybe why nothings certain until they have a proper cut finalised of each song.
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it would have been nice to have had one interview with them after the tour concluded to get their last thoughts on everything, especially Phil.
End of an era
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Do they really need to play any Genesis music ?
It's also quite soon after the last Genesis tour as well.
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So which Genesis songs will they cover?