Posts by Duke of Earl of Mar

  • Afterglow - your preferred version?

    Quote from Schrottrocker

    It is definitely an octave.

    Could It be a MIDI bug ? On the same concert (Hannover) he had a problem with the pitch wheel on his DX7 during The Brazilian.

    Here the DX7 is triggering the Prophet 10 at his left side (that way he can face the audience, see the other musicians, so it's definitively better than showing his back !). His rig at the time was huge and complicated. It's not impossible to have a bug occurring.

  • Afterglow - your preferred version?

    I voted for the studio version : if I really had to choose, it would the one.

    Second, it would be the Seconds Out one. I love the mellotron sound and the *new* bass part added by Mike during the Eb section and at the end.

    Third, the Last Domino version. I totally agree with Christian about the feeling it has.

    Fourth, the 3SL one. Great energy and singing but sometimes I can't help myself thinking "isn't it a bit too much, vocally ?"

    Fifth : the Songbook version, showing this song also works in an intimate configuration.

    Final : 2007 version. I've always felt the 2007 concerts were a bit "too clean" and lacked a bit of emotion. The Last Domino tour had its flaws here and there but it was much more emotional, and so, better.


    I think my favourite live version would be the 1978 one. It has the mellotron, Phil gaining confidence in his singing compared to the year before, at the top of his drumming chops, and the wildest bass lines ever played by Mike in the end section !

  • The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - anniversary celebration

    From superdeluxeedition.com :

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    This 50th anniversary editions also includes a remastered recording of the The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway live at the Shrine Auditorium, 1975. It is the first time the full live show, including encore tracks ‘Watcher of the Skies’ and ‘The Musical Box’, has been released.

    This does raise some questions, no ?

    From what source has it been been remastered ? The 1998 mix tapes (tapes transferred from the original, unless they were already using computers with hard drives), or the original ones ?

    And so, will it have the original vocal and guitar parts, or the 1998 ones ?

    And since they finally found "It" and the whole encore, did Peter or anyone else redo something on it too ?

  • TotW 09/16/2024 - 09/22/2024: MIKE RUTHERFORD - Hideaway

    I've always had a strange feeling with this album : interesting stuff, some good, some... I don't know. It's probably his voice, but the overall production sounds also weird.

    At the same time, it seems a bold move from him, and it's great : his first album was very Genesis-like (I'm saying this in a good way, Smallcreep's Day is my favourite solo album with A Curious Feeling), this album is a lot more "abacabish". Having Stewart Copeland on board is another interesting point. To my knowledge, this is the only time Stewart did a side-project while still being active in The Police.

    Anyway, one of the best tracks of the album. 11 points.


    Apparently, George Harrison played the guitar solo, and George Martin arranged the strings (EDIT : I'm all wrong here, the arranger is Martyn Ford), which do sound like in a Beatles track (I Am The Walrus...). Not sure, though, but it would be nice !

  • Genesis: 2007 & 2021 Rehearsal info and footage

    Quote from Dr. John

    The biggest loss was of a complete Cinema Show. They were at least considering it in Come Rain Or Shine but Phil thought it went too high for him to sing. He gave up prematurely because the top notes he sings falsetto in IKWIL go higher.

    Oh, I thought it was because of Mike Rutherford, who didn't even try to remember his parts with the special tuning he was using on guitar. It's a shame, today there are lots of videos explaining it, maybe at the time there were already a few existing on the Internet he could have looked at, at least...

  • The "Define/Explain That Lyric" Thread

    Quote from thewatcher

    On of my favorites because it's a racket! I love how Phil's voice sounds like it's being overwhelmed in the mix when he shouts "maaaaaaaaaaaaan of our tiiiimes", plus the bit where he's singing something I can't make out (sounds like "an enemy <something something>"). And the effective pauses dropped in here and there. The tense keyboard notes that loom ominously in the background in parts.


    As regards the thread, I'm partial to cryptic lyrics also.

    I quite agree with that. Strange song, but there's something I like in it, the musical tension that goes through, only released when the drum pattern changes at the very end.


    Another set of cryptic lyrics is Abacab. The band itself explained that at the time they tended to write lyrics that sounded good rather than had any sense, but these ones are particularly obscure.

  • The "Define/Explain That Lyric" Thread

    "And in the beating of your heart there is another beating heart

    All at once I can see what we do,

    Me into me and you into you

    Me into me and you into you

    Tonight, tonight, oh he's s burning bright"


    I've always had a strange, diffuse, orwellian feeling about this song. What do you think of it ?

  • RIP Richard Macphail

    This is very sad news. The Genesis family loses a great man, one of its key members. I've never had the chance to meet him or even read his book but I heard him on one of his shows, he was really interesting. RIP.

  • TotW 08/19/2024 - 08/25/2024: GENESIS - The Light Dies Down On Broadway

    A filler, maybe, but it's actually one of my favourite part of this album. 14

    Quote from Thelawnmower

    Phil’s utterly inventive drumming, very subtle fills and rolls and some very clever use of the bass pedal

    I completely agree. I also love his hi-hat at the end of the song (just after the Hairless Heart reminder).


    Quote from somsom

    Years ago, I had an argument with a fellow Genesis fan on this site about the ending of that song. He pretended that he could hear a reprise of the keyboard melody used in Hairless Heart while I thought it was slightly different.

    Me, maybe ? RE: Things you've only recently noticed

    To me, it is a part of the HH melody, slightly altered to go with the key (E instead of D) and the harmony (major instead of minor). Overall melodic construction ? Same. Rhythm (tempo aside) ? Same also.


    ;)