Turn It On Again - A Genesis Forum
A forum to discuss all things about rock group Genesis and its solo outlets, such as Tony Banks, Phil Collins, Peter Gabriel, Steve Hackett, Anthony Phillips, Mike + The Mechanics and Ray Wilson
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Christian
Replied to the thread FGTR vs CAS poll.PostFor me ist also CAS
Nevertheless I am looking forward to the new edition of FGTR. Maybe it will change my view on that album a bit -
thewatcher
Replied to the thread Do you think CAS is the worst Genesis album?.Post[…]
Yes - I would have thought the people responsible (whoever was advising them in management) should have known that the scale of what they were attempting wasn't feasible. I don't know enough about how those things work to know how big a failure this… -
Eclipse
Replied to the thread Do you think CAS is the worst Genesis album?.Postsadly they didn't have a producer who could help them morph those songs, which felt incomplete in the final release, into a well-baked album.
the producer they had on CAS is the same one who did the drums on WCD album sound like tin cans, and also the… -
choccy
Replied to the thread Do you think CAS is the worst Genesis album?.PostPhil was the glue that basically Reigned in Tony and made sense of Mike and Tony's work and made it all work.
Without that, Tony and Mike left on their own were always in trouble and didn't even wait until they found a 3rd person or a drummer (having told… -
Backdrifter
Reacted with to WinstonWolf’s post in the thread Do you think CAS is the worst Genesis album?.Reaction (Post)I think Tony and Mike should have brought in Ray and Anthony Drennan and Nick D'Virgillio and Nir Z to be a band. Much of the stiffness and aimlessness could have been avoided if they would have re-recorded all of the songs together as a group instead… -
Fabrizio
Replied to the thread Do you think CAS is the worst Genesis album?.Post[…]
We talk about hindsight, and you are right but honestly, I think management failed them, that and a bit lightheartedness on their part, Genesis got used to release an album every 4-5 years, they could afford that because they had been tremendously… -
WinstonWolf
Reacted with to Fabrizio’s post in the thread Do you think CAS is the worst Genesis album?.Reaction (Post)[…]
Yes and no, there's no doubt some songs would have benefited from there but simply bringing in somebody, anybody for the sake of it, when there's a long-established dynamic is really not that simple and no guarantee of improvement, ultimately it comes… -
Fabrizio
Replied to the thread Do you think CAS is the worst Genesis album?.Post[…]
Yes and no, there's no doubt some songs would have benefited from there but simply bringing in somebody, anybody for the sake of it, when there's a long-established dynamic is really not that simple and no guarantee of improvement, ultimately it comes… -
Fabrizio
Replied to the thread Do you think CAS is the worst Genesis album?.Post[…]
Personally, I never liked it but who knows what can be a hit? -
thewatcher
Replied to the thread Do you think CAS is the worst Genesis album?.Post[…]
I think this, 100%. It was, in hindsight, silly to try to book a stadium tour of Europe and the US, and then have to downsize to arenas in Europe and cancel the US altogether. There was nothing wrong with what they had - most bands would kill to fill…