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I don't think Phil will loose any sleep over it

Superb song 15 from me. Such a shame it was only sung live on the one tour. Thought Phil sang this with extra passion and pride live.

I was surprised By Tim Howar i thought his vocals stood up well live. I get the shallowness thing the big shiny smile and all is a bit grating. The problem is when singing Genesis songs especially a song like Jesus which has Phil's personality and charisma all over it especially in a live setting whoever performs it is going to come off second best. I'm just grateful we still get to hear these songs live same with the Hackett stuff and I'm no Nad Sylvan fan either but i do appreciate these guys being around especially as it allows Hackett & Rutherford to be on stage and certainly from what i saw of Mike on stage in Sheffield really enjoying himself. It was a great night out i thought.

First chance I've had to post. Saw them in Sheffield Thursday night i thought they were superb. Tim Howar who i had my doubts about before going won me over with his enthusiasm and energy which is important when performing to a crowd that me and my mate are 2 of the youngest in and just about to hit 40 ourselves.

Nic on drums really drives the show along brilliantly. Roachford has a superb voice and filling Paul Carrack's shoes is no easy task. It was nice to see Rutherford take a bow on his own at the end to a standing ovation.

A word about the Genesis covers. Yes i could of lived without I can't dance I thought they did Jesus well to be honest yes it missed Phil's personality but there's a reason Phil's made mega bucks from performing the blokes brilliant at it! Follow you follow me was really nice and Invisible touch was buried in a medley anyway.

Fantastic night out and middle of the road or not All i need is a miracle & word of mouth are fantastic live tracks.

The king of over the top has to be Meat Loaf/Jim Steinman God love them! Paradise by the dashboard light is Jim at his 'subtle' best.

While I admire Pawciob1 enthusiasm I have to agree with the majority there just isn't a big enough market for this stuff to see a return on your investment. When you have people on a Genesis fan board saying they wouldn't pay for this stuff and I include myself there, that should tell you everything you need to know. I would also say it's possibly you that's been naive if you think somebody like Tony Smith doesn't have an understanding of these things.

As most have said the live version from Earls Court is fantastic. I wonder if Phil had stayed and they had done a couple of more albums whether this would have become a staple of their live sets as they seemed very committed to it in that performance.

It's a really good pop song. I genuinely don't think he expected the back lash he got from it. Bear in mind this is a man who wrote the lyrics for No son of mine because it fit the music rather than he felt strongly about the subject matter. Although I do think this was an attempt to sound very different to No jacket required.

I doubt they will be very well known on here certainly by the non UK members but off to see Paul Heaton and Jacqui Abbott in Sheffield in a couple of weeks time. Like most gigs I attend these days hoping for the older stuff from the Beautiful South/Housemartins days rather than the newer duo stuff. Though I would defend Heaton's song writing credentials to anybody his back catalogue is unreal.

Orianne takes the blame for a lot of things and I sometimes think this album should be right up there with the worst of her sins! Phil loved up is nowhere near as good as angry bitter Phil. There's some cracking songs on it but it plays like songs just thrown together rather than an album. Come with me, It's not too late and Don't get me started is what i went for. I also don't think Wake up call is a bad opener to an album.

On another note 20 years old!! What happened there? Doesn't seem nowhere near that long.

I agree certainly Taylor Swifts first 3 albums are really good and there was still a country influence at that point. After that i personally loose a bit of interest in what she has been doing apart from the odd song here and there but no denying she certainly has talent.

He's still only 21 so he's loads of time. I'm well pleased he is playing with the mechanics next year I think it's a clever move by Mike to be honest to freshen it up a bit. Looking forward to seeing them.

Yep good shout with Heal the World not too far behind.

I like Bono, I agree i think he is good intentioned mostly. It's a shame in the end that he'll probably be remembered as a political bore. Rather than a fantastic front man and one of the greatest lyricist's of his generation. I know people love the Joshua Tree but peak U2 for me will always be Achtung Baby, the singles are great but the album tracks are possibly even better on it.

Can't believe Chris De Burgh hasn't got a mention yet. I don't mind some of his stuff myself but Lady in Red is very very cheesy and he's done even worse since!

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I can't bear Steinman's work. I'd agree a lot of it sits on the cheese spectrum, it often has that overwrought quality fermented dairy songs often have. Total Eclipse Of The Heart is a stinking warehouse of low-grade cheddar.

I think Steinman's work is very marmite. I personally like most of it but totally get why people wouldn't, and I'm afraid if you were unlucky enough like me to see Meat Loaf live anytime after 98 it's an even tougher listen the poor guys voice was completely shot.

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Probably the same people who praise Automatic like the tracks you mention and don't regard them as drag factors, same as how you don't consider Radio or Shiny that way.

I'm very much a Green and New Adventures person.

Just shows everybody's different and I am more pop/soft rock orientated, i know pop's a dirty word to some but you like what you like. Sometimes it's amazing how one leads to another, I was only born in 84 and my Dad had a VHS of serious hits live. I loved it as a kid and it got me in to Phil Collins which got me in to Genesis and all though i still prefer later Genesis 's later stuff i do enjoy Musical Box, Dance on a volcano and Lamb lies down on Broadway.

Just to finish on REM they brought an album out in the early 2000's 'around the sun' which i thought was terrible apart from one song the first single 'leaving New York' The lyrics are so straight forward by Stipe standards but they don't half hit the spot when you're in the mood and depending on what's happening in your life.

Automatic for the people is a fantastic album. They never really got anywhere near that again for me. I know Stipe's been quoted as saying New adventures in HI-FI was their peak and his favourite album. Automatic for the people is their only album that i don't skip a single track.

I've got the DVD for the We can't dance tour and when they do a commentary all 3 of them acknowledge they were maybe a bit too desperate to get new songs from the album on the set list. I think they felt Dreaming while you sleep especially (a song i like) didn't work very well live.

Booked in for Sheffield 27th April. I like some of the mechanics stuff though i wish Paul Carrack was still with them his voice is like silk but really just think we got to make the most of any of the guys going on the road at this point and fair play like you say that's one hell of schedule for a bloke in to his 70's.