Posts by CyanideWand

Quote from Fabrizio

Do you mean musicianship, technical proficiency or something else?

Well, I don’t expect anyone to agree because Genesis fans…but if you look at the supreme ease with which they play live around IT, it seems that they are the most on top of their game at this time, with both the newer and older songs. The older songs may be more complex, but that doesn’t make older Genesis more technically proficient. It just means the songs were more complex. Yes, the drumming is more bad-ass on The Lamb, but I suspect IT-era Phil was more at the height of his ability.

In terms of technical ability, Invisible Touch.

But I think the prog fans will always say Selling England as the answer to every question.

They have done Elvis and Johnny Cash albums where they have orchestras play the music and they use the pre-recorded vocals from the albums.

So we will probably have the London Philharmonic accompanying Phil Collins on Jesus He Knows Me and I Can’t Dance.

Quote from Phil Morris

Really? Do you have the detail/pointer?

Virgin, Rhino and Atlantic are each putting one out. Look at the listings. Each one ends with a different track and has a few songs missing or added.

Quote from pcontos

Did anyone get to the bottom of the Last Domino Compilation track list differences? Why are there two different ones? Which one is correct and why on earth would they release a compilation with the exact same setlist as the upcoming tour? I never heard of something so ridiculous. Also, if that is true, I hope that they don't do an edited version of Abacab. Could you imagine that song without the second part? That would be way worse than the Tonight X3 edited version. It seems as if the setlist speculation is/was tied exactly to this compilation. For example, what makes us think that Fading Lights will start an old medley? Is it because there is one shot of Phil singing with Mike next to him with the double neck? Is it because of this compilation? I'm really curious as to why this compilation is so tied to the running order and song selection. I might be wrong but I would never thought that the band would put out a compilation that would completely leak the setlist of a tour that is just about to start. Is the first version and accidental leak of the filmed rehearsal setlist and the second the compilation setlist? Anyway, here are the two versions again:

CD1

Duke's End
Turn It On Again
Mama
Land Of Confusion
Home By The Sea
Second Home By The Sea
Fading Lights
The Cinema Show
Afterglow
Hold On My Heart
Jesus He Knows Me
That's All
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
In Too Deep

CD2

Follow You Follow Me
Duchess
No Son Of Mine
Firth Of Fifth
I Know What I Like
Domino
Throwing It All Away
Tonight Tonight Tonight
Invisible Touch
I Can't Dance
Dancing With The Moonlit Knight
Carpet Crawlers
Abacab (edit)

Disc 1

Turn It on Again
Land of Confusion
Home by the Sea
That's All
Throwing It All Away
Follow You Follow Me
No Son of Mine
Hold on My Heart
I Can't Dance
Invisible Touch
Afterglow
Duchess
Misunderstanding
Jesus He Knows Me
In Too Deep
Domino (Pt. 1 & 2)

Disc 2
Mama
The Carpet Crawlers
Tonight, Tonight, Tonight
Firth of Fifth
Abacab (Edit)
Los Endos
Fading Lights
The Cinema Show
Dancing with the Moonlit Knight
The Musical Box

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There are actually 3 versions now. Each label has a different track listing.

Quote from martinus

Apart from the North American and the European versions, you mean?

Turns out there are actually 3 track listings, but I’ll probably stick with one copy.

One ends with Abacab, one ends with In Too Deep and one ends with The Musical Box.

I’m hoping it’s not a release with two versions because being a completist I will probably buy both.

I bought tickets on my phone for Philadelphia. I tried to buy the cheapest VIP package but it was sold out and when I hit the back button I was no longer in the Genesis presale. After I found my way back I chose “best available” but it wouldn’t show me the seats I was buying until I finished the purchase. I ended up with two seats in section 111, lower aisle seats in the back on the right. 583 dollars.

Maybe there will be a volume 2.

Does anyone else have this CD that came out last year? It’s the same track listing as the Complete BBC Recordings disc one, but to my ears tracks 8-12 (Jan 9, 1972) sound less compressed with more detail.

Opinions?

I liked it. I don’t have impossible expectations like most Genesis fans.

Porcupine Tree and Steven Wilson solo are decent. I don’t buy their albums though. I saw him in concert a few years ago and he was great. My wife really likes him.

You could apply that definition to anyone in any genre as long as they are doing it. So it’s obviously not a very good definition.

I don’t see any of Peter’s albums as progressive.

The only two I wouldn’t be inclined to automatically buy a new album from are Ant and Mike, although my interest in both has had a recent resurgence to a degree.

I suppose I would rank my level of interest in solo careers thusly:

Phil Collins (most interest)

Peter Gabriel

Steve Hackett

Tony Banks

Anthony Phillips

Mike Rutherford

While I find Steve more interesting than the bottom three, it doesn’t bother me when he is not given equal treatment in documentaries or not included in reunions. Three-man Genesis is, after all, Genesis. I don’t live in the past.

None of the solo acts are more interesting than Genesis. Steve sounds the most like classic Genesis because he is still prog.

I have all of Steve’s albums. Especially the later ones I think generally all sound the same. He doesn’t seem to be growing into anything new, although he is very good at what he does.

My favorites are Acolyte, Spectral Mornings, Defector, Cured, Guitar Noir, and To Watch the Storms.

If Peter left and then made a bunch of albums that sounded like early Genesis but less interesting, and then did a Genesis tribute act, maybe they wouldn’t have included his career either.

He wasn’t left off the compilation. Ant wasn’t on that. I guess that means they consider SH a step above Ant.

Yeah, I don’t think anyone in Genesis tried not to have hits. That would be pretty stupid in my opinion. “Hmmmm. Let me continue in relative obscurity and not make a lot of money because that seems more legit.”