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I always found Dodo a bit odd. The lyrics are basically off-the-wall stream of consciousness centred on certain themes. But then you get this big dramatic music that sounds like the sort of thing they would have put a bit dramatic story to in the past. I can remember when I couldn't make out the lyrics on Three Sides Live, I always assumed there was some meaning or story there I wasn't quite getting. "I'M BACK IN THE SEA!" *huge dramatic chords*

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I don’t think it’s one of Phil’s best vocals.

Wow, strongly disagree with that! I think it's one of his finest performances. Really impassioned, and perfectly placed between melodic and gritty.

14. One of the very best 80s Genesis tunes. Should have been on the album, and would have been one of the best tracks on there! Absolutely adore the wistful feel of it. And those Tony chords after the intro. Just perfect. And that drumming!

Is my memory failing me, or was a release of FGTR on Cherry Red first hinted at by Ant a couple of years ago now? If so they've been working on this a loooong time!

Sold out already at Cherry Red??

Seems to have disappeared. I take it it wasn't official

It's definitely not identical, but my genuine first reaction on hearing it was "oh so that's why they left it off the album". Weird!

I mean, the very first time I heard this song (many years after hearing DTLS) I was really taken aback by the repetition of that part. Genuinely astonished that anyone can say it very vaguely resembles it.

Odd that while the repetition of the "elephant" sound effect is mentioned here, no-one has mentioned the repeat of the "can you hear me?" section of Driving the Last Spike? Surely a much stronger reason for leaving it off the album? The elephant noise repetition would have been fine left on the album - just a bit of tying together, thematically. But the DTLS repetition would have seemed like using the same idea twice - a bit lazy

Very interesting read, thank you. Any chance of a note for the above (rather lovely) graphic saying who is who? (apart from the obvious ones of course!)

I'm sort of tempted as I don't own the original CD, and the tracklist and design are better than The Last Domino. Ultimately though, there's loads of brilliant music out there, new and old, that I don't own and haven't heard many times before. That's where my money's going! (Echo the thoughts of others that CC99 would have been an excellent choice for RSD on 12")

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It's understandable that on a board for Genesis fans there'll be a tendency to think of the world revolving around the band, but that is what is behind the belief that the Madonna cover must surely be a conscious pastiche of FV. There have been many such close-up b&w cover shots before and since FV. The handwritten title isn't enough to propel it into definitely being some sort of deliberate copy.

I think it's the fact that it's Phil Collins, not Genesis, it sold gazillions of copies and that it's literally one of the most recognisable and famous pop album covers of the 1980s

FWIW I do think the Madonna cover has too many similarities for it be an accident. I don't think you can really call it plagiarism but it is clearly a pastiche (maybe even intended to be recognised as one)

I considered it, but didn't buy it. This was mainly due to the cost. If the CD box had been at least £10 cheaper I probably would have picked it up.

The vinyl box I consider a big missed opportunity. If it had matched the tracklist of the CD box (maybe over two volumes) I probably would have paid whatever ridiculous money they asked for. Having Shepherd and Pacidy on vinyl for the first time would have been amazing.

Overall I would have much preferred a series of individual releases, with complete sessions / shows and the same tracklist on CD and vinyl.

I've heard the album version of Abacab played on BBC 6 Music - I can't recall if it was Guy Garvey's show, but it may well have been. It was at a friend's house - we were having a BBQ and the radio was playing quite loudly outside through decent speakers. The instrumental section sounded amazing I have to say!

I have got this album somewhere, but it must have been a while since I listened to it as I only vaguely remember this. I quite enjoyed it, more than a lot of M&TM songs. It actually reminds me quite strongly of some of Tony's solo work. 10 points, some marks deducted for overall cheesiness

I tried to come up with a wintry/Xmas playlist of Genesis tracks a while back. It was harder than I thought, there's not many! But I think this sequence works very nicely:

Fireside Song

A Winter's Tale

Shepherd

Twilight Alehouse

All in a Mouse's Night

Undertow

Snowbound

Ok Twilight Alehouse and Mouse's Night are a bit of a stretch, but the atmosphere of the tracks works quite well!

So these are in "digisleeves"? That's a different thing to vinyl replica sleeves isn't it?

If it was the latter (nice thick card gatefold replicas) I would probably have got these as I don't own these mixes

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Really interesting. I own the regular edition of this CD, this far I haven't started re-purchasing any albums. Maybe some day. Ant has so much interesting stuff in his archives, he never gives out all he has though.

Really?? I have the opposite impression - that he has released everything he's ever recorded! Every take, every experiment and every alternative version! I welcome it, but I suspect it's rather daunting to someone starting to collect him

The original remaster was good, but this is out of this world. I thought it looked and sounded absolutely stunning.