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Quote from Mozo

I have been absolutely knocked out by this video.

The quality is astounding given the source. It really helps to bring alive what it would have been like to see and hear the band at this stage in their career.

Anyone on here who hasn't seen it needs to now!

Absolutely. What struck me is how chaotic, surreal and LOUD it must have been seeing them at this time. There's a strangely homemade feel to the band and the music. Couldn't be more different to the slick arena act they became (although they arguably always maintained a continuity of slight oddness / wrongness even into the 90s).

Also love how confident, relaxed and happy the band look in the interview section. Rightfully proud of what they'd achieved with Foxtrot and the reaction to it?

Quote from Nanunami

odd choice ....

would the current logo make any sense? the recording was before WCD...

Not really, but look at the box sets etc.

Genesis really know how to miss a trick don't they? An RSD release of Lyceum 1980 this year would have got a lot of people talking. Some good publicity for the tour. The three man line-up at the peak of their powers etc. Oh well!

Quote from Phil Morris

Define "official". RSD is not known for its bootlegs. It's released by Eagle Rock, who clearly own the rights, judging by the previous editions.

Phil Morris

I guess I meant - how involved or even aware of it the band are. I'd say not judging from the lack of current Genesis logo. I've no doubt it isn't a bootleg.

I'll probably get it, but it's not the most exciting release. How official is it? It looks like some of the other Knebworth performances are getting a release too (might pick up the Robert Plant one).

But a double or triple LP live at the Lyceum 1980... now THAT would be exciting.

Quote from thewatcher

What song are they playing where there are tons of toilet paper rolls tumbling on the screen behind them?!

I imagine this is for Land of Confusion, which is going to be re-purposed as a song about the pandemic and lockdown etc (don't know if it happened elsewhere but in the UK people were panic-buying toilet paper this time last year)

So do we know anything else about the reissue yet? Likely bonus tracks? Release date?

Quote from gianlucavalenti

Useless ....the same old story.....save your money.

What did you expect? If you're a major fan of course you're going to know all the stories already.

The only thing I can think of is that they were much longer, expanded songs when played live - which is certainly true of TIAA and TDL, but is it true of It?? Maybe not.

This is a zoomed-in section of the painting that was inside the original gatefold sleeve.

You can see an image of it at Discogs:

https://www.discogs.com/Genesis-Trespass/master/29373

I remember reading (possibly in the Genesis biography) that one idea for the follow-up to SEBTP was to adapt the story The Little Prince by Antoine du Saint-Exupery. If I remember rightly it was Rutherford that was pushing for this. In the end of course Peter's own Lamb story won out. Do let me know if I've misremembered this!

Banks' Mad Man Moon has always strongly reminded me of the Little Prince story - in both setting and theme. I used to think that before I ever read that they'd considered adapting the story. I'm just wondering if Banks still had the Little Prince in the back of his mind at the time of writing ATOTT. Or maybe he'd started writing it a few years before? I don't know - I just always thought it was interesting. TLLDOB would certainly have been a very different, more romantic and lighter album if they'd gone down that path - perhaps not dissimilar to how ATOTT turned out.

Quote from Barrowlad

I’d be up for expanded editions for all albums up to and including Abacab (at least). Including:

Original mix (which I don’t have).

Remastered edition of the remix (to try and breathe a bit more ‘air’/less compression into them?) or new remix.

All associated b-sides for singles released (and the A sides, if not on album).

Any material tried out but never used (not sure any exists, though).

Book with essays about the recording of the album (although much of this has been covered in the interviews in the green/blue/red CD box sets), plus lots of artwork/marketing and promo material, etc.

Yep, I’d buy those - hopefully on a regular release schedule (one every 6-9 months) - without blinking. My suspicion is that the box sets released before 2010 are felt to have most of the above already covered (or at least, there’s the view that they have, by the band itself).

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Yep I'd love something along these lines. I'd like it all on vinyl as well as CD. Would be great, for example, to have Shepherd and Pacidy on the bonus tracks LP for Trespass. If an indie band like Stereolab (https://bleep.com/stereolab-reissues) can do it for their reissues, why not a huge band like Genesis?

Well done - I really enjoyed this - I'm not the biggest fan of CAS, but I this made me appreciate it a bit more I think. In fact I even think some of the arrangements are superior to the album versions! Standouts for me were The Dividing Line and There Must Be Some Other Way (a track I never used to like that much). Looking forward to seeing what you do with WCD!

Quote from CountingOutTime

Growing Up Live is re-issued as a triple vinyl (see below)

The first in the series was1983’s Plays Live which was released on August 28 on double vinyl, followed on September 25 by another double vinyl: Live In Athens 1987, which was recorded in the Greek capital on Gabriel’s tour in support of his fifth solo album, So.

October 23 saw 1993’s Secret World arrive on 2LP, while Growing Up Live from 2003 was reissued as a triple album pressing.

I know, I suggested this might be the cause of the confusion. But she's absolutely insistent that there were two different versions of Plays Live with exactly the same cover, but one was a heavier package with three LPs and was £26.99 and the other was two LPs and £21.99. She says she's definite about it because she stood for a while looking at them, unsure which one to get to me. In the end she got the cheaper one. It's very odd, she's not usually given to hallucinations. Then again, it HAS been a very tough year.

Quote from thefarmer

Very worrying. How come you know the detail of this a week BEFORE Christmas? That's just wrong. You shouldn't know anything about this at the moment.

Ha ha, I requested this gift but I'm sure I'll get a surprise too!

Bit of an odd query - my partner has just been in a record shop to buy me the reissue of Peter Gabriel Plays Live on vinyl for Xmas. She bought the standard double vinyl edition, but she is adamant that there was also a TRIPLE vinyl version available. Same cover, sticker etc but more expensive and three LPs instead of two. The weird thing is I can't find any reference anywhere online to this version. So what's going on? Did she imagine it??

Quote from Sredni

I seem to remember that Cherry Red Records are planning some kind of ultimate edition of that album. Ant Phillips said something along those lines in an interview earlier this year (but don't ask me where to find it). So patience might be the key.

I've tried to find the interview you mention but no luck. I hope this does happen - especially if it's mastered from original tapes and even better if it has more unreleased early demo material! I have the original vinyl (stereo - I think the 1970 repress) but no digital copy. I used to have that nice picture disc version that came out in the mid 80s - wish I'd kept it for nostalgia's sake.

Number 3:

The Serpent is the longest track on FGTR, but it is the shortest longest track on any Genesis album

Shipwrecked is the shortest track on CAS, but it is the longest shortest track on any Genesis album

I haven't actually checked this by the way!

Quote from Backdrifter

😂

Excellent. I'm glad it's a misprint, and a good one too. You still instinctively understand the meaning! I never questioned it.

I remember looking it up in the dictionary as a 13 year old - pre internet obviously! - I assumed it was some obscure technical term. Genesis always seemed so worldly to me - they seemed to know everything - even the various ways to dispose of pigeons

Quote from foxfeeder

Frankly, I doubt they were signed to Genesis at all. My guess is that they were signed to King's company, Jonjo, and that was signed to Decca. Common practice back then. The Moody Blues mk1 was shafted thus as they were signed to Tony Secunda's company and that was signed to Decca. The middle men, (Secunda and 3 others, inc. Alex Wharton, disappeared with the money), luckily, Decca honoured the contract, probably because they were still owed advances.

Interesting - didn't know that

Ah yes, I'd forgotten about the other Genesis issue.

So did World of Genesis just pluck this idea out of thin air? Or were they actually signed to Decca as "From Genesis to Revelation"?