Posts by OneForTheVine

    Welcome. And I am impressed by the work put into figuring this out!

    Seconded! That’s really amazing work, and welcome!

    Hopefully they aren't really fully retiring The Lamb tour. It's a fantastic show and keeps a good variety going in terms of their rotation of tours. Take the Lamb out of the touring mix and they're basically reduced to SEBTP and Foxtrot, along with the occasional Extravaganza tour. Actually the first time I saw them they were doing the Nursery Cryme Tour at Upper Darby. They were excellent but the show was very short (a little under 90 minutes). I probably would not pay to see that show again.

    But you would get to hear them do “The Fountain Of Salmacis” again - that would be worth it! 😎

    Well, that’s what I think they would gravitate towards if they are continuing longer-term, i.e., more Extravaganza-type tours. They have been very clear from the beginning that this tour was it for the full “Lamb” shows. I don’t think they would renege on that now.

    That’s also why I opined about the possibility of this being a slow-motion retirement too - they have been at this for a while. (Of course, I don’t want that - I want them to just keep going and going.) I guess we’ll find out.

    I'm sure you'll enjoy it! I caught Friday night's show, and it was fabulous! I had seen TMB play most of side-2 of The Lamb on their "extravaganza" tour a few years back, but this was the first (and expected only) time I got to see the entire Lamb show. So very well done on every level!!

    Oh, they have never put on a show that I haven’t been blown away by! 😄 I counted in my head how many times I have seen them play the Lamb - tonight (technically, last night, since it’s after midnight now) was the 5th time. Every time outstanding! They were especially good tonight, like they wanted their last Philadelphia-area Lamb show to be a blinder, and it was! 😎

    I loved both of the “Extravaganza” tours, and they were amazing! If they continue long-term from here, I hope they do more of those. If you haven’t seen one of their album-specific tours before this one, be sure you catch the SEBTP one! It’s outstanding! They sometimes do the “Black Show” in addition to the regular stage for this one! Not to be missed!

    One last time to see TLLDOB in its entirety in suburban Philadelphia at the Keswick Theater tonight! I’m looking forward to it! 😎

    However, it is a bit of an end of an era. I know they have already announced a SEBTP tour for next year, but I wonder if they are winding down as a tribute band as well. Perhaps they are retiring tour-by-tour, starting from The Lamb and working backwards? I guess time will tell. Obviously, I am hoping to be wrong, but even tribute acts don’t go on forever.

    Is this the same rehearsal video from the DVD of the 1983 “Genesis” CD/DVD set (i.e., from the boxset), or is it a newly-found one?

    FINALLY, Ticketmaster fixed their faulty widget. 🙄 So, six days late, I now have a ticket for the first of the three Scottish Rite Auditorium shows in October.

    Unfortunately, because of this glitchy widget, I lost out on a front-row seat (as I mentioned above). Well, I guess the good news is that I saved $20 for the seat further back. It’s awful when TM has a problem because it always takes days for a problem that can be fixed in minutes.…sis-watcher-of-the-skies/

    Read this and got me thinking that in all these years, i am not sure that i have ever heard the edited single version!...although sounds like haven't missed mellotron😔

    I have heard it. If my memory serves correctly, it was an Italy-only single release (possibly just mainland Europe, but I think it was Italy-only). It did appear on a best-of early Genesis compilation CD that also came from Italy. (I never owned this CD - it was too much money to spend just for one song; one of my friends had it back in college). It is very guitar-oriented; I don’t recall any Mellotron.

    P.S. I read the story more closely, and obviously it came out in Germany too. Maybe it was just released on the mainland? 🤷‍♂️

    …and I would already have a front-row seat for the first show at the Scottish Rite Auditorium, if it weren’t for Ticketmaster not properly formatting one of their widgets!

    I use my presale code to get into the presale, I reserve a front-row seat, I sign in to my account, and then a very “helpful” widget pops up asking me to confirm what country I am in! 🤔 I confirm that I am in the USA, and when I hit “Next”…nothing happens! Nothing continues to happen until the clock expires for me to keep the ticket. (And, yes, I tried signing in first, but then I don’t even get the opportunity to reserve any seat - I’m just stuck on the country-confirming widget! 🙄)

    I message them to tell them the problem with a screenshot attached, and they still think the problem may be my computer. Nonsense! Every other part of the process works fine; it’s just the damn unnecessary and unresponsive widget that’s the problem!

    Ticketmaster’s unhelpful “blame-the-customer-first” attitude makes me pray for their demise. They need to be broken up.

    Well, let’s hope I can eventually get a ticket. These shows will sell out, so I hope they get their act together soon.

    Hmmm…it has been March for a bit, hasn’t it? (Happy St. Patrick’s Day! 🍀)


    Porcupine Tree


    Inhaler (great new band from Dublin, featuring Eli Hewson (Bono’s son) on vocals and guitar)

    The Who

    The new deluxe 3-CD/1-BluRay boxset of Porcupine Tree’s “Deadwing” album. It just arrived from Burning Shed today! 😎 I was really looking forward to this release because it’s my favorite PT album of the time that Gavin Harrison has been with them. Lots of good listening and viewing coming up!


    There was a link error with the Philadelphia show. If you are on Peter’s email list and you got the presale email and you wanted to go to the Philadelphia show, check your email again. They sent a second email with a corrected link that will allow you to buy non-VIP, non-Gold/Silver tickets - i.e., regular tickets.

    The seat I ended up buying was $216 in the lower bowl (in quite a similar location to where I saw Genesis in Dec. 2021, coincidentally enough) - still more than I wanted to spend, but much more “in profile” with the customary inflated prices of tickets today.

    So, try again if you were in the situation I was in yesterday. (You know, I’m willing to bet there are a LOT of angry Philadelphia fans who may have already bought a much more inflated-price ticket because of this snafu. I wonder what the fallout will be from that. The venue should really allow people to exchange tickets for the (slightly) more reasonably-priced ones. I hope they do. 🍀)

    The other comments I made above about LiveNation/Ticketmaster still apply. 🖕(This bird is the exclusive property of LiveNation/Ticketmaster - no one else may claim it (unless you really want it - I guess I can’t really stop you from claiming it if you really want it 🤷‍♂️).)

    I got the Peter Gabriel presale e-mail today. Once I read it and clicked on link for the Philadelphia date, I laughed almost to the point of vomiting (while mildly weeping at the same time).

    For the Philadelphia show presale, I was invited to spend:

    $875.74 per ticket for the Premium VIP Lounge

    $703.54 per ticket for the VIP Lounge

    $560.04 per ticket for the Lower Bowl (not the floor, which would have been more costly) for the Gold Ticket package

    …and finally…

    $363.88 per ticket for the Lower Bowl (no floor option for this one) for the Silver Ticket package.

    There was no option for regular non-special tickets.

    Needless to say, I did not partake of the Peter Gabriel presale. I’ll have to count on the venue presale or the general sale to go - with the option of not going remaining a possibility.

    LiveNation/Ticketmaster - and the acts that go along with them - are ruining the concert-going experience. They are using presales just to financially fleece fans. They are using one’s fandom of a particular act to one’s own financial detriment. They are eventually going to kill the golden goose with their blind greed.

    Let’s hope the other on-sale opportunities are less horrific.

    Hackett and other prog luminaries explain the importance of Sgt Pepper in the development of progressive rock in this Louder Sound piece.

    Thank you for posting that, because the opinions expressed by the musicians in the story corroborate to a degree my opinion that Progressive Rock was the next logical step in popular music after Psychedelia. This, of course, is also why I scratch my head over critical opinions of each movement - i.e., music critics were widely accepting of Psychedelia, and yet they also widely panned Progressive Rock. I never understood the disconnect.

    One band that shows that one movement could come out of the other is Yes. Their self-titled debut album is quite psychedelic-sounding; they didn’t reach their progressive selves until their third album, “The Yes Album” (with “Time and a Word” being a transitional album in between). This transition is even true for Genesis between their debut album and “Trespass” - the debut has quite a few psychedelic moments; the follow-up is prototype-progressive. Pink Floyd, obviously, is another example, although their transition to what might be considered “progressive” took a little longer.