Posts by LC40

37 shows since 1977, very good.I know M Beaton has seen over 100 PG shows since 1977 and recorded around 70 shows, I've only seen a few shows since 1980 I've seen 5 different tours.

I have most of the shows (tapes and CDrs archived), if I touch them again I'll see if I can help.

in my old notes i saw this :

13/09/1980 Olympia Paris (2 sources one only 3 songs )

30/06/1987NEC Birmingham ( 2 sources one is the Luca Benp master)

22/05/1993 Dortmund Westfallenhalle (one Rec)

10/11/1993 Dortmund Westfallenhalle (one Rec)

30/04/2003Konig Pilsner Arena Oberhausen (one Rec)

Some Paris 80 shows were misidentified, here are some notes to help in the case of Fake shows:

the 5 Parisian shows by the first words PG spoke on those nights as intros to Solsbury Hill:

09.09 - Bonsoir Paris, Merci

10.09 - Bonsoir! J'essaie encore une fois de parler un peu en francais

11.09 - Merci, ok.

12.09 - Bonsoir encore une fois, Paris

13.09 - Bonsoir! Maintenant une vieille chanson.

“White Shadow “ Was played only in 10th & 12th shows

some other Ref for the Paris shows:

09.09.80 - PARIS OLYMPIA

10.09.80 - PARIS OLYMPIA "Humdrum" after 5 seconds PG re-start the song .

11.09.80 PARIS Olympia "F Snapshot after 2 seconds " PG re-start the song

12.09.80 - PARIS OLYMPIA "F Snapshot –After the music Pg touch a few seconds on the piano

13.09.80 PARIS OLYMPIA M 37 long story –3.36

LC

Quote from HomeByTheSea

Thank you for doing the interview for all of us fans to hear! It's a shame that for a 50th anniversary of The Lamb, they will just recompile the 2007 remix of the album and pair it with the 1998 mix of the live archive Lamb show. It leaves a lot to be desired for us die hard fans because we already have those releases. Why not use a different live show to mix it up and appeal to more than just new fans? Just like the BBC box set, this one is going to miss the mark for me unfortunately and I'm sure for plenty of others.

The interview was made by Future Nostalgia.

From SH

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/new-edition-of-the-lamb-lies-down-on-broadway-by-genesis-coming-in-summer-2020.923877/page-45#post-35336447

Okay; as promised: THE Tony Banks interview you’ve been waiting for!

- The Lamb box,

- From Genesis To Revelation remix,

- How fans perceive him,

- Steve Hackett,

- Nick Davis compression!

It’s all here. I really hope you enjoy this. Thanks to Tony for being such a good sport.

Quote from agentsage

Now I’m curious to hear one of the better quality (sound and performance-wise) shows from the Lamb tour, which doesn’t have overdubs. Anyone know where I might find this?

For download shows:

Genesis-Movement Torrent : Home

And http://www.dimeadozen.org or TradersDen.

Quote from agentsage

Now I’m curious to hear one of the better quality (sound and performance-wise) shows from the Lamb tour, which doesn’t have overdubs. Anyone know where I might find this?

Quote from foxfeeder

Suggesting that Tony doesn't understand the principles of compression or limiting in any way!

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/new-edition-of-the-lamb-lies-down-on-broadway-by-genesis-coming-in-summer-2020.923877/page-42

News From Steve Hoffman Forum:

Just interviewed Mr Banks. Will post here when it’s out but some teasers for you:
- Lamb box is happening. 2007 remix plus Shrine show but with encores restored.
- From Genesis To Revelation remix happening. Sounding good apparently.

- When I posited the idea that the Nick Davis remixes were a little “loud”, he suggested I turn the volume down then…

Some Tapes from "the Lamb tour"

-Soundboard tapes.

-OAM-Open air Mics (from desk)

- Audience Recordings.

20 November 74 Auditorium Theatre, Chicago, IL ( No recording sdb tapeslost )

22 November 74 Auditorium indiana covention center, Indianapolis (audience recording)

25 November 74 Allen Theatre (Music Hall), Cleveland, OH (audience & sdb/OAMrec)

26 November 74 Allen Theatre (Music Hall), Cleveland, OH (audience & OAM rec)

28 November 74 Masonic Auditorium, Detroit, MI (OAM rec)

30 November 74 Syria Mosque, Pittsburgh, PA (OAM rec)

01 December 74 Lyric Theater, Baltimore, MD (audience & OAM rec)

04 December 74 Richmond Mosque, VA (sdb reco)

05 December 74 Tower Theatre, Philadelphia, PA (OAM recording)

06 December 74 Academy of Music, NYC, NY (audience & Sdb recording)

07 December 74 Academy of Music, NYC, NY (audience recording)

08 December 74 Palace Theatre, Providence, RI (audience recording)

09 December 74 Orpheum teaatre Boston ma (audience recording)

12 December 74 Palace Theatre, Waterbury, CT (audience recording)

13 December 74 Passaic NJ capitol theater (OAMrecording)

15 December 74 Forum, Montreal, QUE (audience recording)

16 December 74 Maple Leafs Gardens, Toronto, (audience & SDB recording)

17 December 74 The Dome, Rochester, NY (OAM recording)

10 January 75 West Palm Beach Convention Hall, FL (audience & sdb recording)

11 January 75 Lakeland Theatre, FL (audience & sdb recording)

12 January 75 Municipal Auditorium, Atlanta, GA (sdb or OAM recording)

13 January 75 Municipal Auditorium Atlanta,CA (OAM recording)

15 January 75 New Orleans Music Hall, LA (SDB recording)

19 January 75 Tulsa Music Hall, Ok (audience & sdb recording)

22 January 75 Community Theatre, Berkeley, CA (OAM recording)

24 January 75 Shrine Auditorium, Los Angeles, CA (audience & sdb Multitrack rec)

25 January 75 San Diego fox theatre (sdb recording)

28 January 75 Phoenix Civic Center, AZ (SDB-OAM recording)

01 February 75 Memorial Hall -Kansas city MI (OAM recording)

02 February 75 Grand Valley State College, Grand Rapids UAllendale, MI (aud & OAM rec)

04 February 75 Arie Crown Theatre, McCormick Place, Chicago.Il (OAM recording

European dates

19 February 75 Oslo Ekeberg Hallen (OAM recording)

21 February 75 Copenagen tivoli s koncert sale (audience recording)

22 February 75 Hannover stadt Halle (OAM recording)

23 February 75 Eissporthalle-Berlin (audience recording)

24 February 75 Amesterdam Carre Theater (audience recording)

25 February 75 Amesterdam Carre theater ( sdb recording)

26 February 75 Cambrai palais des grotes (audience & OAM recording)

28 February 75 Colmar salle des Expositions (OAM recording)

01 March 75 Dijon palais des sports (OAM recording)

02 March 75 st etiene Palais sports (OAM recording)

03 March 75 Paris Sports pavilion Port versaillhes (audience recording)

06 March 75 Cascais Sports pavilion ( OAM & audience recording)

07 March 75 Cascais Sports pavilion (Aud REc--Lost)

09 March 75 Barcelona new pavilion Club (audience & OAMrecording)

17 March 75 Porte versailhes Paris ( OAM & audience recording)

22March 75 Salle exposition annecy (audience & OAM recording)

24 March 75 Torino pallasport (Varius-audience recordings-OAM Lost?)

26 March 75 stadhalle offenburgh (OAM recording)

27 March 75 Messezentrum Nurnberg (OAM recording)

29 March 75 Bern fasthalle (audience recording)

30 March 75 Saarbruken saarlandhalle (OAM recording)

01 April 75 Ludwigshafen Fredrick ebert Halle (audience & OAM/sb recording)

02 April 75 Stuttgart killesberg Halle (audience & OAMrecording)

03 April 75 Frankfurt jahrthunert Halle (audience & OAM recording)

04 April 75 Munich Zirkus Krone (OAM recording)

06 April 75 Dusseldorf Philishalle (audience & sdb recording)

07 April 75 Dortmund Westfalenhalle (audience & OAM recording)

08 April 75 Hamburg congress centrum (audience recording)

10 April 75 Martinihal-Centrum Groningen (OAM recording)

11 April 75 Rotterdam ahoy Hall (audience recording)

12 April 75 Bruxells forest Nationale (audience recording)

14 April 75 London wembley arena ( Audience )

15 April 75 London wembley arena (audience & sdb-BBC FM recording)(Multitrack ?)

16 April 75 Southampton gaumont Theater (audience & OAM recording)

19 April 75 Liverpool empire theater (sdb )

20 April 75 Liverpool empire theater ( aud recording-lost)

22 April 75 Edimburgh uster Hall ( OAM recording)

23 April 75 Edimburgh uster Hall ( OAM recording)

27 April 75 Manchester Palace Theater (audience recording)

28 April 75 Manchester Palace theater (audience recording)

30 April 75 Bristol colston Hall (audience recording)

01 May 75 Birmingham Hippodrome (audience recording)

02 May 75 Birmingham Hippodrome (audience recording )

10 May 75 Ostseehalle Kiel (audience recording)

11 May 75 Grugahalle Essen (reel to-reel tape-Lost ?)

14 May 75 Rhein-main halle Wiesbaden (audience recording)

15 May 75 Reims Pavilion (audience & OAM recording)

18 May 75 San Sebastian Velodromo (audience recording)

22 May 75 Becancon - Palais des Sports (according to some inf some tapes were erased by PC or TB to record rehearsals in 76 or 77 by mistake. this could have been one of them.)

complete tour dates:

Genesis News Com [it]: Genesis - Tour dates: The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway Tour 1974-75 (genesis-news.com)

Quote from Phil Morris

I'm pretty sure that given no more than an hour of the Empire Pool show have appeared that the full tapes have long since been wiped.

Genesis have another complete"lamb recording" Multitrack tape from a UK show ..could be one of the London shows.

Tony Banks: We were quite surprised because after we did the live Lamb(Genesis Archive 1967-75)... we came across another (multitrack tape) I think it was from somewhere in England… Sheffield or somewhere and we were quite surprised that there was another whole tape of the whole live thing which obviously included It which we didn’t have on the other one!

Interview conducted at The Farm Recording Studio December 2004,"In Conversation" - Mike Rutherford and Tony Banks talk to Alan Hewitt, Stuart Barnes and Richard Nagy .

I confess that I don't care much about cover bands (I've seen one or two), but I'm not against it, now I want to hear the full Wembley Arena 1975 show(oficial recording).

I want the Original band Genesis, not a cover band with a pathetic vocalist with a horrible voice.

LC

All 4 contribute to the Floyd sound no doubt, but RW had a lot of importance in the albums, because he composed most of the songs.

who sings :

THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON (1973)

1. Speak to Me - NONE (Instrumental)

2. Breathe (In the Air) - Dave Gilmour

3. On The Run - NONE (Instrumental)

4. Time - Dave Gilmour & Rick Wright

4b. Breathe Reprise - Dave Gilmour

5. The Great Gig in the Sky - Clare Torry

6. Money - Dave Gilmour

7. Us and Them - Roger Waters, Dave Gilmour & Rick Wright

8. Any Colour You Like - NONE (Instrumental)

9. Brain Damage - Roger Waters

10. Eclipse - Roger Waters

WISH YOU WERE HERE (1975)

1. Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Pts. 1-5) - Roger Waters

2. Welcome to the Machine - Roger Waters & Dave Gilmour

3. Have a Cigar - Roy Harper

4. Wish You Were Here - Dave Gilmour

5. Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Pts. 6-9) - Roger Waters

ANIMALS (1977)

1. Pigs on the Wing (Pt. 1) - Roger Waters

2. Dogs - Dave Gilmour & Roger Waters

3. Pigs (Three Different Ones) - Roger Waters

4. Sheep - Roger Waters

5. Pigs on the Wing (Pt. 2) - Roger Waters

THE WALL (1979)

1. In The Flesh? - Roger Waters

2. The Thin Ice - Dave Gilmour & Roger Waters

3. Another Brick in the Wall (Pt. 1) - Roger Waters

4. The Happiest Days of Our Lives - Roger Waters

5. Another Brick in the Wall (Pt. 2) - Roger Waters, Dave Gilmour, & kids from Islington Green School, London

6. Mother - Roger Waters & Dave Gilmour

7. Goodbye Blue Sky - Dave Gilmour & Roger Waters

8. Empty Spaces - Roger Waters

9. Young Lust - Dave Gilmour

10. One of My Turns - Roger Waters

11. Don't Leave Me Now - Roger Waters

12. Another Brick in the Wall (Pt. 3) - Roger Waters

13. Goodbye Cruel World - Roger Waters

14. Hey You - Dave Gilmour & Roger Waters

15. Is There Anybody Out There? - Roger Waters

16. Nobody Home - Roger Waters

17. Vera - Roger Waters

18. Bring the Boys Back Home - Roger Waters

19. Comfortably Numb - Roger Waters & Dave Gilmour

20. The Show Must Go On - Dave Gilmour

21. In The Flesh - Roger Waters

22. Run Like Hell - Roger Waters & Dave Gilmour

23. Waiting For The Worms - Dave Gilmour & Roger Waters

24. Stop - Roger Waters

25. The Trial - Roger Waters

26. Outside the Wall - Roger Waters

THE FINAL CUT (1983)

1. The Post-War Dream - Roger Waters

2. Your Possible Pasts - Roger Waters

3. One of the Few - Roger Waters

4. The Hero's Return - Roger Waters

5. The Gunner's Dream - Roger Waters

6. Paranoid Eyes - Roger Waters

7. Get Your Filthy Hands Off My Desert - Roger Waters

8. The Fletcher Memorial Home - Roger Waters

9. Southampton Dock - Roger Waters

10. The Final Cut - Roger Waters

11. Not Now John - Dave Gilmour & Roger Waters

12. Two Suns in the Sunset - Roger Waters

Quote from Mark Bataitis

Yes, fine hope you're the same. And glad you're following the Banks group. Are you still collecting recordings?

Well ,now i am only interested if its something with EX sound .

Quote from Mark Bataitis

I remember very well the Farm run down sheet of gig boards, rehearsals (both tour and album). And there are more Lamb OAM and desk recordings 'out there'. There is also an EXTREMELY rare audience sourced show from New Castle '72. However, to my knowledge, this reside with but one individual.

Hi Mark ,yes i am Luis ,hope everything is ok with you , i`m following your page about Tony Banks..in FB..thanks

at the "Farm" Theres lots of 76/77 board tapes....i would like to get a few more "Lamb" OAM/SDB recordings..there a multitrack recording from the UK "lamb" tour....and the guy who copy the tapes of Milton keynes rehearsals H Odeon 82... could have the Milton Keynes show from the desk its not multitrack recording ,the show was recording in 2 C90 tapes

Great review by Martin Klinkhardt..

i found in the book that Jon Kirkman in coversation with Dale Newman says that the last "Lamb" show was Besancon on 22 May 75

and its correct, but the tour dates list By Alan Hewitt are with some mistakes.

when Paul Russell great Book "Live Guide 1969-1975: Play Me My Song" came out a group of collectors

discussed some incorrections.Over the years some great collectors like Mel Huang , V warncke ,Mino Profumo..and

some others.. helped to clarify some doubts.

1-14.December .1974 The Market Square Arena Indianapolis

This show never happened, Mel huang said about the Kansas show 14. december :

"this is incredibly doutfull..just look at it geographically" because on 13 they play N jersey

and on the 15 th in Montreal.i talked in 2006 with a fan that saw the Kansas 1.FEb.75 show

and told me that the Kansas 74 show never happened..and we found a photo of the Tape of the Kansas

show taken at "Farm Studios" and the date is 1.FEb.75 .i alsohave a review of the show and a copy of the ticket.

2- Last European "lamb" dates:

8.5.75 The Sports Palace Antwerp(?)Belgium

9.5.75 The Stadthalle Bremen(?) Germany

10.5.75 The Ostseehalle Kiel Germany

11.5.75 The Grugahalle Essen Germany

12.5.75 Rhein am Main Halle Wiesbaden Germany

13.5.75 The Stadthalle Bremen Germany

15.5.75 The Patinoire Rheims France

18.5.75 The Velodromo Anoeta San Sebastian Spain

20.5.75 The Porte de Versailles Paris France

21.5.75 The Palais des Grottes Cambrai France

22.5.75 Palais des Sports Besancon France

the MB singer is the biggest problem for me , his voice, he is not a pure artist is an imitator,

do not have the emotion nor the theatricality in the voice. in "the Lamb" its very bad ,in some older songs its a bit better.

After watching them play "the Lamb" in 2012 I was thinking that I liked to have seen the

show of the MB, but with the sound of a 1975 audio recording, so they stayed on stage only to do playback

After listening to more than 60 diferent concerts of The "lamb" It is difficult for me to connect with the

voice of "Musical box" vocalist

I think the Genesis Oficial book its a good book , strange we don`t see any pictures of the album covers..in the book.

Armado Gallo`s books were great, i like very much Robert Ellis Book.

Alan Hewitt `s books are very weak,and with many errors.

this last book from Jon Kirkman about "the Lamb" it seams something is missing..and again Alan Hewitt ...made some mistakes about the "the Lamb" tour dates ..he is mainly a 1976/2007 Genesis fan so i think he should not write about the issues of the Gabriel Era.