Posts by DecomposingMan

    "More Fool Me" and "After the Ordeal" aren't great songs, and the album would probably work without them. (It would even still be a fairly long album.) But they do make for nice breathers between the long, epic numbers. ATO, in particular, strikes me as being a perfect follow up to "Epping Forest," both in mood and in title.

    Before I heard the album, I kind of expected "More Fool Me (Vocals Phil)" -- as it was listed on the cover -- to be more of a full-band piece. Actually, when it comes down to it, neither of Phil's full lead vocals in the Gabriel era are really "Genesis" songs; they're both just Phil and a guitar player.

    I think the "starting-with-Willow version" is just my misunderstanding, misremembering or incomplete knowledge of the more detailed story that you cite. I was right, at least, in that "Willow" was pre-written and that the band decided to have it pop up unexpectedly in the middle of something bigger.

    I could be remembering wrong, but I recall reading somewhere that the band basically started with "Willow Farm" and wanted to write something big for it to pop up unexpectedly in the middle of.

    23 minutes of SR plus near 2 minutes of Horizons is pushing vinyl to the limit IF you want to keep the bass at proper levels

    True, but Side 2 of FOXTROT is far from being the longest side on a Genesis LP. Side 2 of SELLING beats it by a full 4 minutes, for example.

    Definitely an impressive piece, though there are other Genesis songs I like better.

    I don't have any trivia about the song, but I have a couple of observations:

    (1) It's obviously their longest song, and their 2nd longest isn't much more than half its length (technically, about 51%).

    (2) There doesn't seem to be any consensus about exactly where each section begins and ends, and the instrumental section prior to "Apocalypse" doesn't really seem to belong to any titled section.

    And for the record, I'd say "Apocalypse" is actually in 9/4 rather than 9/8. :)

    OK, well, this is going to seem really anticlimactic...

    LAMB (LP 1) and ABACAB are the only Genesis LPs where the longest track is on the side with the most tracks!

    "In the Cage" is on Side 1 of LAMB, with 6 tracks (vs. 5 for Side 2).

    "Dodo/Lurker" is on Side 2 of ABACAB, with 5 tracks (vs. 4 for Side 1).

    Now for what I hope is a better question:

    Twice in Genesis' discography, a title reveals a very specific thing about the song itself. What are the two titles? (Hint: They're in different Genesis eras.)

    Wow, I really didn't think this would be such a hard question. I guess my mind really works differently from other people's.

    Once again, it's really simple. No knowledge needed beyond what's shown in Wikipedia on the Track Listings. The same thing occurs occasionally -- i.e., less than half the time -- on other artist's albums as well.

    Next hint: The answer focuses on Side 1 of Lamb & Side 2 of Abacab.

    Further hint #1: "Dodo/Lurker" is counted as one song (or one "track" if you prefer).

    Further hint #2: The situation in question might happen a few times in any given artist's LP discography; it just happens twice in Genesis's.