Posts by DecomposingMan

  • Who has never met who?

    This is one of those "out of curiosity" questions that maybe no one will be able to answer definitively...


    I remember back in 1998 coming across those group photos from the promotion for GENESIS ARCHIVE. There were all the familiar G-men... and one guy who initially seemed out of place. It was short-time G-man John Silver, who I'd never seen a decent picture of before.


    Anyway, I was wondering. What about the other short-time G-men who weren't there? Did Chris Stewart, John Mayhew or Ray Wilson ever get to meet any of the Genesis members that they weren't actually in the band with?


    I recall hearing something about Ray working with Steve on something. Other than that, I have no idea. Anyone?


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  • Your favorite GENESIS studio albums (pick three)

    I know we're getting off topic now, but... GENESIS REVISITED II is the only Hackett studio album I don't have. I listened to it once and never wanted to hear it again. I was especially bothered by the versions of certain 4-man era songs. It's not so much that I thought the singers were bad; it's just that the magic Phil brought to those songs just can't be replaced. There are reasons that my top 2 Genesis albums (getting back on topic) are Trick & Wind.

  • How often do you play a Genesis album

    I don't think any of the poll answers really fit my listening habits. I might go for weeks or months without a Genesis album, but then go through several albums (or all of them) in a row.


    For the record, I only listen to music in my car, and I keep a stack of CDR copies in the order I plan to listen to them. When I select a disc that I've decided to listen to and put it at the bottom of the stack, it'll be about 2 months before I actually get to it. This means any given album (Genesis or otherwise) will, at most, be listened to once every 2 to 3 months.

  • Who wrote what

    Quote from StillCan'tDance

    I don't ever remember reading that Mike wrote the lyrics to Inside And Out. Steve has recently confirmed it was Phil who wrote the lyrics to that song. Phil also wrote the lyrics to Match Of The Day which is on the same EP.

    So whatever happened to "Scenes From A Night's Dream" being the first song Phil wrote all the lyrics to? I thought that was confirmed somewhere, anyway.

  • Who wrote what

    Quote from Backdrifter

    Speaking of PC's lyrics, at a Hackett gig last year, introducing Inside & Out SH said Collins wrote the lyrics, "before he started writing songs about ex-wives".

    He must have been joking. I recall reading that the lyrics to I&O are by Mike, and that there wasn't a Genesis song where Phil wrote all the lyrics until ATTWT.

  • Who wrote what

    Quote from AnythingNow

    If I remember correctly he actually wrote the lyrics for six of the songs on "We Can't Dance"

    Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I count seven: No Son Of Mine, Jesus He Knows Me, Driving The Last Spike, I Can't Dance, Tell Me Why, Hold On My Heart, Since I Lost You.


    Quote from AnythingNow

    The last one was based on a book he had read and must also be the only Genesis "epic" he wrote the lyrics for.

    I think "Tonight, Tonight, Tonight" would also qualify. But "Spike" is definitely the longest song where he wrote the lyrics.

  • Who wrote what

    Well, here's a quote from Tony regarding Mick Barnard & TMB:


    "I remember when we had already auditioned Steve but were still rehearsing with Mick which wasn't a very nice thing to do, we were doing the end part of 'The Musical Box' and he was playing this little guitar phrase over the top of it and we thought this was really good. So just as we were about to boot him out he did something quite good."


    That could be taken to mean that at least part of Mick's contribution was retained in the final product. But, right, who really knows? Personally, even if that was the case, I'd consider it more of an "arrangement" thing than something worthy of a co-credit.





  • Who wrote what

    "I found a list on a thread in a forum called Progressive Ears that has a go at all PG-era credits, but I can't speak for its accuracy and I haven't looked through all the comments to see what else has been suggested:"


    This appears to be mainly guesswork, rather than anything based on definite information.


    Some comments on specific tracks:


    The Musical Box (Phillips-Rutherford-Banks-Gabriel)

    Mick Barnard is said to have contributed as well.


    Seven Stones (Banks) or (Banks-Hackett)

    Steve claimed the quiet instrumental bridge in an interview, so Banks-Hackett is probably close. (I hear Pete's influence in the vocal melody myself.)


    Harold the Barrel (Gabriel)

    Someone in the old forum cited information that Phil contributed to the lyrics.

    Can Utility and the Coastliners (Hackett-Banks)

    In the interview mentioned above, Steve gave Tony & Mike (and possibly Phil) credit for the middle section.


    Firth of Fifth (Banks)

    I believe I've read that Mike helped with the lyrics.


    Cinema Show (Banks-Rutherford-Collins)

    As I mentioned earlier, Pete has been cited as contributing the names "Romeo" and "Juliet."


    Cuckoo Cocoon (Hackett-Gabriel)

    Like "Get' Em Out By Friday," this has been cited as having been contributed to by John Hackett.

  • Who wrote what

    Quote from Backdrifter

    Interesting re Fly - that conflicts the most with what I'd heard/read before.

    Well, maybe I don't have it quite right. I was thinking of a quote which I just now had to go find again:


    Tony - “At times things were little more than improvisations on an idea. For instance, Mike would say, ‘Pharaohs going down the Nile’ and he would just play two chords and instantly the rest of us would conjure up that particular mood.”


    Based on that, maybe the 2nd part of "Fly" is more of a Banks/Collins/Hackett/Rutherford jam.

  • Who wrote what

    "IKWIL - main riff and verses Hackett, chorus Banks - do we know who wrote the lyric? It feels to me like either PG or SH or both."

    Gabriel.


    "Cinema Show - instrumental Banks/Collins/Rutherford jam, lyrics Banks"

    Lyrics are Banks/Rutherford, with Gabriel contributing "Romeo" and "Juliet"


    "Fly On A Windshield - Hackett"

    Banks/Rutherford/Collins jam


    From TRICK on, it's pretty well known who wrote which lyrics, with only a few songs being in any kind of doubt. I could probably name most of them off the top of my head, but it would be too much work.

  • Your 'best of Genesis' compilation

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    The only Genesis compilation I've made, and it's one I'm quite pleased with, was a non-album track compilation from the post-Gabriel era

    As I mentioned a few times on the old board, I've done a non-album track compilation covering the band's whole career from 1967 to 1998, using tracks from ARCHIVE 1, ARCHIVE 2, and whatever other source was necessary. I wouldn't call it a "best of" Genesis, but it is one of my favorite "albums"!

  • Your 'best of Genesis' compilation

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    Out of curiosity, I'd be interested to know what you thought were the potentially controversial choices.

    Maybe "controversial" isn't the best word, but various of the B-sides and album tracks may seem like outright odd choices for a "best of." Some songs are kind of divisive (Misunderstanding, Man Of Our Times), or not terribly popular among Genesis fans in general (It, Hold On My Heart, most stuff from CAS), or just really strange-sounding choices (Submarine).


    If I were to come up with a compilation, based more on personal preference than on which would be the objective "most important" songs, it would probably look something like this:


    Disc 1 (1968-74)

    A Winter's Tale

    Where The Sour Turns To Sweet

    Stagnation

    Dusk

    Harold The Barrel

    The Fountain Of Salmacis

    Supper's Ready

    Dancing With The Moonlit Knight

    The Cinema Show / Aisle Of Plenty

    The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway

    Lilywhite Lilith

    Riding The Scree


    Disc 2 (1976-80)

    Entangled

    Mad Man Moon

    Eleventh Earl Of Mar

    Blood On The Rooftops

    Inside & Out

    Deep In The Motherlode

    Many Too Many

    Behind The Lines

    Duchess

    Man Of Our Times

    Turn It On Again


    Disc 3 (1981-97)

    Abacab

    Dodo / Lurker

    You Might Recall

    Mama (long version)

    Tonight, Tonight, Tonight

    Anything She Does

    Driving The Last Spike

    Way Of The World

    On The Shoreline

    Congo (single edit)

    Alien Afternoon


  • Your 'best of Genesis' compilation

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    As you can see I go for the complete mix-it-all-up approach, I can't bear chronological compilations:

    Well, you must love A Chord Too Far, then!


    I don't have ideas for a "best of" Genesis compilation, but if I did it would be a "history of" Genesis, and totally chronological. But, hey, that's how I operate.


    You've made some interesting, and even potentially controversial, selections. The one I find most intriguing (especially as the last track on a disc) is:

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    The Colony of Slippermen (intro)

    That one might beat even "Who Dunnit" for sheer unpopularity! ( Although I'm a fan of both myself.)