Posts by DecomposingMan

Quote from foxfeeder

Digitize it yourself? As in Record the LP to computer, if you didn't like it enough to buy the CD, or it wasn't available? Yes, did that too!

I have a number of vinyl (and cassette) items, generally non-mainstream stuff, that do not exist in CD (or downloadable mp3) form. I've either had someone put these to digital form for me or I've recorded them to computer (and ultimately burned them to CDR) myself. In a few cases CD versions have eventually become available but the digitalized versions I already had were satisfactory to me.

Quote from foxfeeder

you get the artwork (though I admit the LP beats it, obviously, but it's the only area it does).

Totally agree. While all my stuff on vinyl has long since been replaced by CD (or however I could get it digitally, even if I had to digitize it myself), I still keep some LPs around just for the artwork. (Ant Phillip's BACK TO THE PAVILION just isn't the same when shrunk down to CD size, for example.)

P.S.: Boy, did this thread get off-topic...

Quote from Witchwood

What stands out in my recollection of playing vinyl are the crackles, occasional skips and the sound of surface wear from albums played repeatedly.

I also recall having the occasional issue with records getting warped.

Quote from Witchwood

I thought CDs were a blessing in comparison, and I haven’t moved on from that format - though I know most others have.

I haven't moved on from it either. I don't understand why anyone would consider it less a preferable format than anything else.

With only occasional exceptions, I usually don't prefer live versions over their originals. This is especially true with Genesis, whose live versions don't tend to add much to the originals. Some Genesis live versions do have little touches that I like, though, such as (from SO specifically) the whistling in "Squonk" and the "megaphone" voice in "Robbery."

Not that I've ever been a particular fan of either of these, but:

Jimmy Buffett (Sept. 1, age 76)

Gary Wright (Sept 4, age 80)

It's the old use (maybe only in English?) of "mama" to mean a girlfriend, lover, etc. It also shows up in "Many Too Many."

Quote from Schrottrocker

Excuse me? The difference in the violins arrangement is striking. The album version's arrangement is much sparser and leaves more room for the actual song.

Sorry to go back to being off-topic here, but... I just did a quick comparison between the mono and stereo versions of "(The) Silent Sun" and the string arrangements are identical from everything I can tell. If there's a "real" single version that's not the mono "bonus track" on my CD of FGTR, I'd be interested in hearing it.

I bought the 12" single just to have the long versions of "Mama" and "It's Gonna Get Better" that were not on the album. (As I'm sure I've mentioned countless times, I don't bother with the shortened album versions at all.) The first time I heard "Mama" on the radio it was the long version, and the DJ specifically commented on how the new Genesis song was over 7 minutes long.

I vaguely recall thinking the "ha-ha" part was kind of weird, but in general my tendency was to accept music the way it was without giving much thought to its stylistic features, etc.

Quote from Schrottrocker

The difference in the violins arrangement is striking. The album version's arrangement is much sparser and leaves more room for the actual song.

I'm unable to spot the difference simply by listening to one version followed by the other. Maybe if I do a "side-by-side" comparison in some recording software I'll be able to pick up on it.

Quote from Henry Hamilton-Smythe

This is the first time that I’ve ever heard that the members of Genesis had any control of the strings/brass. Everything I have ever heard/read is that the members of the band ( especially Ant) were really pissed off when they heard the brass and strings all over the album.

That's what I've always heard as well.

Trivia: On the original LP & CD releases, "Throwing" was incorrectly listed with a length of 4:41.

Nice little Genesis pop song in its original version. Ruined in live versions by Phil's silly "de-da-ray" stuff and his messing up the line "someday you'll be sorry, someday when you're free" (saying "someday when you're sorry" instead).

Quote from chema

'there was a short version of watcher of the skies from 'foxtrot' planned to be released a single...

Right, but the single version was a re-recording. And it wasn't just planned (as is often claimed), but actually was released.

Quote from Schrottrocker

Strictly speaking, The Silent Sun wasn't a single from FGTR - the 'Silent Sun' titled track (without 'The') on the album was a re-recording.

No, the version on FGTR was not a re-recording. The only real difference between the versions (besides the "The") is that the single version is in mono and the album version is in stereo. I've heard it claimed that the strings are different between the two versions but I don't hear any difference there either.

Technically, though, "Silent Sun" is not a single from FGTR because it was released as a single over a year before FGTR came out. It would be more accurate to say that it was a single used on FGTR.

You realize that Steve has already re-recorded "Air-Conditioned Nightmare," right? The new version is called "Reconditioned Nightmare" and, as I recall, it was an extra track on the Japan edition of WILD ORCHIDS and later showed up on the special edition of BEYOND THE SHROUDED HORIZON.

According to the Discogs website, the "John Perry" who sings on the alternate version of "Narnia" (intended for a U.S. single release) is the same person as John G. Perry, the bass player on two Anthony Phillips albums and an artist in his own right. Does anyone know if this is correct? I'm not highly familiar with John G.'s voice, but I listened to a bit from one of his albums on YouTube and it does indeed sound similar to the voice on "Narnia." It seems odd that he would be credited as "John Perry," without his usual "G.," for his work on Steve's song, but that could just be an oversight on someone's part.

Quote from Dr. John

[The first two albums in particular are really solid and contain some pretty experimental moments, e.g., Free Form Guitar. Lots of great music overall on these albums. I always though Kath was a great guitarist and vocalist, but am even more impressed. Seraphime is a does some really awesome drumming. Cetera is a really good bassist, which was not what I was expecting.

Overall, lots for me to appreciate. If there are any Chicago fans here, you can recommend any other early albums I should explore.

If you haven't heard them already, check out III, V & VII.

Quote from thewatcher

Oh no, Sinead O'Connor 😞. Only 56.

I never paid much attention to her, so I was surprised to find out that she had a relationship with Peter Gabriel at one point.

During some channel-surfing recently I saw a short segment of the show "911" where a young driver was unable to stop the fast car he was driving. The music chosen for this scene was Phil's "In the Air Tonight" -- which, IMO, didn't really fit.

Of course, there's a live version of this song (only about 5 minutes long) on the LIVE ARCHIVE '90s disc. And an entire live album named after it that doesn't actually feature it, but does have an audience member loudly requesting it (but getting the title wrong: "There are many sides of the night!").

Quote from choccy

ASD is the worst of the songs by far.

Actually, in my opinion, ASD ranks pretty high among the tracks on IT. I think it helps that it's the only one that there isn't at least one official live version of!

Quote from Schrottrocker

You really like the song, don't you?

Actually, a lot of times when I think I want to listen to SELLING, "Epping Forest" is the track that makes me decide not to just yet!