Shocked and stunned.
Very stunned...
Posts by somsom
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From what I've been hearing, the earliest date for an officially approved vaccine is spring 2021. But it will not be administered overnight. They will start by health staff, first responders (firefighters and police), then they will take care of the most vulnerable population (seniors), and then the rest of the population. This will take time. And that is only for the first dose. Apparently, a second dose is necessary to ensure immunity. At the very earliest, the whole process could be completed - if things go well, and things never go well -, by early 2022. I think the end of 2022, early 2023 is more realistic. So, forget any full scale shows with full audience before that.
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Forget about any touring for at least a good year, it won't be possible. But, what if, in the meantime, Genesis did something live on You Tube?
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Their best bet would be to announce as 12-month postponement. I don't see how any large-scale gigs can take place for the next year.
I agree. Just think of all the preparation, the material, the trucks, the insurance, the hotels, the whole thing has to be prepared way in advance and as of now no one can be sure that we're all going to be able to gather by thousands in a given space by the end of the year. Unless you desperately seek presidential reelection, but that's another story...
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Here is the set list I expect them to play on the LD tour:
Turn It On Again
No Son of Mine
Blood on the Rooftops or Many Too Many
Land of Confusion
Abacab
Mama
Ripples
Domino/ The Last Domino
Hold On My Heart
Follow You Follow Me
In The Cage/ Cinema Show/ Afterglow
Throwing It All Away
Drum Duet
Los Endos
Tonight Tonight Tonight
Invisible Touch
I Can't Dance
Carpet Crawlers
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I love Supper's Ready and enjoy it all the way through. But if it had been broken up as individual songs, I probably would mainly focus on Lover's Leap, Apocalypse, and ASAEIE. Whereas each of the Duke Suite tracks (well, maybe except Guide Vocal) are great on their own and then make a greater whole strung together (if only on tour and in my head).
Yes, but the point is Supper's Ready was not broken up while the so-called "Duke suite" was never intended to be a complete song. We are talking about a comparison between something that existed and something that never did. This is more a game of "what if", like speculating that there ever was a "Dodo suite" or a "Wind suite". Artists produce works of art and I like to think that Genesis' definite works of art appeared on their records.
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In my mind, Supper's Ready is the ultimate Genesis song. Nothing beats it. It is their masterpiece. The "Duke suite" does not even exists as such! Sure, it was called that way in relation to the tour supporting Duke, but they precisely wanted to avoid any comparison with Supper's Ready and needed to move away from their traditional sound, including long pieces, which is why the songs comprising the so-called "Duke suite were separated on the album. Later, they cut Home by the Sea and Domino in two separate parts.
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I saw them last week and I must say the setlist is really impressive. I don't want to spoil your surprise, but let's say that, especially in the second half of the show, they play a dream setlist. Too bad they experienced technical problems in the first half. But things got much much better in the second half, just in time for that dream setlist.
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Here is a new interesting interview where tony comments his solo material, Calling All Stations, various Genesis songs and the possibility of future projects: https://www.innerviews.org/inner/tony-banks. Interesting is also the fact that for the first time it is confirmed that there was a possible long suite in Abacab comprising of Dodo/Lurker/ Submarine/ Naminamu (and other songs?). Tony also describes how he was surprised by Phil's ability to do full shows and confirms that they talked of possibly touring again with Phil's son on drums. It is quite an interesting read as Tony is quite candid about it all.
Enjoy!
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The absolute highlight for me was the light show during Second Home by the Sea when the whole rig just moved backward.. Absolutely amazing!!
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Thank you very much for the information, Progatron. Have a nice day.
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I was wondering if Genesis always included an encore at the end of their shows or if they only did one when they got big. For those of you who know the answer, would you be kind enough to write a comment?
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I don't think CAS is a bad album, it's just not a Genesis album. They had a different singer, a different approach to songwriting and a different sound. It was like a new band altogether. Everyone who expected CAS to sound like a proper Genesis album were disappointed.
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Yellow carpet - Carpet Crawlers
Radio - Turn it on Again ("That and a radio")
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(Match of the Day, Musical Box, I Know What I Like, Snowbound = all good)
The Knife - The Knife
Globe on Africa side - Congo
Knights - Time Table
Phone - Misunderstanding
Dominos - Domino
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The singer is Rina Mushonga. Hear the complete song here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VzoIyK0g5Q&feature=youtu.be
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I have read somewhere that the part of the original Undertow that was dropped was rewritten by Tony Banks for A Curious Feeling and ended being what we know as From the Undertow. So we'll probably never know for sure how the complete original Undertow sounded like. And the reason why Tony agreed not to use the intro to Undertow was because the band had made a decision to record shorter songs. However, TB did write a pretty long intro for The Burning rope, didn't he?
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I'd rather stick to my memories of a great, powerful and healthy band than having to witness the downfall of aging rockers (and in one case an handicapped musician) trying to take back the stage with a young teenager, as talented and skilled he may be. Very, very bad idea.
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I always take "It" as a sort of "closing credits" kind of song. The Lamb is a story that's almost a movie plot, so I always thought of "It" as being the song that would be playing as the credits roll and, typically, "credits" songs are never really memorable. It's at that moment that everybody gets up and leave the theater. I don't think that song was ever conceived to be the climax of that particular album.
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I think CAS still feels like a good demo. It's not Ray's voice in particular, it's just that the bits that make up the songs sound good on their own, but something is lacking in the finish result. Maybe the bits are not elaborated enough, maybe they do not fit together. A sense of direction, of orchestration is lacking and that was one of Phil's major input. He used to make suggestions that would change a song. Unfortunately, from what I've read, by the time they made CAS, Tony and Mike would pretty much work on their own, they wouldn't even bother to arrange the songs to match Ray's voice. In sum, it sounds just like a good demo.
