Posts by Schrottrocker

    For what it's worth, already two separate campaigns have started in order to raise awareness of depression and suicide, in memory of Keith Flint. The lesson I recognize in particular is: a) everybody goes through depression and suicidal thoughts at least once in life, and b) men are more likely to end up in the trap of trying to deal with it on their own. Been there, done that myself - "come on, it can't be so hard to deal with, I'm not gonna tell anybody, I don't wanna embarass myself". Worst mistake to do.

    I don't know details about Flint's story, to be honest I'm not that keen on digging in public people's privacy, but it makes you wonder: someone who had that stage presence and seemed to be a cool, relaxed guy all time, in the middle of a tour for a new album close to a 30-year band anniversary... I mean damn. :|

    Also RIP Keith Flint. Never a fan of the Prodigy, but the reasons and cause of his death are particularly sad, and we all here know how it feels to lose a musical hero, so sympathy to all the family, friends and fans, along with those of Mark.

    The Prodigy were heroes of my youth, being a 90's kid. I wasn't terribly interested in their latest activities any more but they remain old idols from back then for me. I was really surprised to hear about his sudden suicide, he never seemed the kind of guy to get so badly into depression, or whatever else the real reason was. Besides, as much as he played the badass punk guy on stage, everybody who knew him says off-stage he was the nicest and friendliest man ever. Brian May says he met him once, first trying to avoid him since he thought these young boys with their hardcore attitude would hate a band like Queen, and to his surprise Flint turned to be a humble man who felt honored to meet a member of a legendary and inspirational band. Keith Flint might not have been the greatest musician on Earth but no matter what he was a good performer who remained grounded enough to stay a normal person in real life. Besides Prodigy he had a very short-lived other band named "Flint" who recorded only one album that wasn't even published officially for whatever reasons, just two songs off it made it into an also short-lived TV series called "Hellsing". The material of this band - a real band with a drummer, a bassist and a guitarist - is just as good, if not better than Prodigy's.

    Just a little suggestion: you could add the author of the lyrics for each track of the week. This one is known for Tony wrote the lyrics.


    This song is not bad, it does stand out on the album, yet it doesn't rank at the top for me. From that album I prefer It's Gonna Get Better, That's All, Home By The Sea and Mama.

    I could easily list lots of bands I enjoy but since this thread asks for that one other band besides Genesis I can only say: there is none. It used to be Queen for a long time, every now and then the likes of Steely Dan or The Beatles occupy that place, for a time it was Toto, but in the end I can't name a band that takes the same permanent interest as Genesis do. The thing with Genesis is, funny enough, I don't listen to them all the time, a good deal of their records I haven't even had a listen to for years, nonetheless there is no other band I know so many details about - who gave which input into which song, who suggested which instrument should be played, etc. etc.

    Not strictly Genesis but at least Phil was part of it: several years ago I dreamt I was in a jam session with a bunch of professional musicians, one of them was Phil Collins on drums. I can't recall the exact lineup, it was wild bunch of musicians from the rock, metal and jazz camps, a good deal of them were nameless but supposed to be very well-known, as it is in dreams sometimes. Besides Phil there was another drummer, then there were at least two singers, a whole lot of guitarists, some bassist, and yours truly on the keyboards. The background story was some rich-ass guy had put all his favourite musicians together in a room in his villa with all their instruments just to let them jam and see what happens. The result was I played some weird intro on the keyboard (lots of wild chord changes, trying so hard to be Mr. Banks) and then the others all joined in. They did no less than create a brand new awesome cool song on the spot, I hardly couldn't add anything, I was just blown away from what I was hearing. Too bad I couldn't recall the song when I woke up :P

    Most popular will depend who you ask: most popular with a general audience would most likely be Invisible Touch or I Can't Dance; most popular with fans will be Supper's Ready.


    As rarest song I would have picked The Light too, well just for the sake of playing I'd go for something even more obscure, say The Movement or The Wooden Mask.


    By the way, is it just me or does The Light show the band trying to sound like King Crimson? Maybe that's why they sorted that song out for recording.

    Meanwhile, in another thread a while back, a board member dared to ask if Supper's Ready is really that good. I thought it was an interesting question. I like the track, I was thrilled to experience them playing the whole song (Sep 82, in a concrete shed used for agricultural shows), it's bold and it includes what I think is one of the best pieces of rock music ever.


    But I rarely listen to it and my enthusiasm for it has waned. Part 1 has an interesting guitar part, but it goes on just a bit too long. As the bit after the vocal part goes on, I start feeling impatient with it. Then there is one of my absolute favourite Genesis bits, as it goes into part 2 which is perfect, short and sweet, a lovely piece of music with superbly effective economy from Hackett. Part 3's okay, part 4 sort of okay but a bit dull, part 5 sort of okay but trying too hard to be quirky. Part 6 is stunning, part 7 a nice reprise of part 2 to round things off.


    Of course I recognise its iconic status within their work, and that it's an ambitious piece of writing and arranging. But for me, it's carried by parts 2 & 6, and they did plenty of much better stuff.

    It's up to you, imho Supper's Ready is pretty much superb for what this band was doing back at that time. The one slighter weaker passage for me is part 3 but that's fine for me. As I perceive it the whole band made another quantum jump in terms of song writing with Selling England so I can't blame them they were not yet at that peak on Foxtrot (or SR in particular) but they got already quite close there.


    However, the one thing I definitely agree with you is it has to "allowed" to question the quality even of such a holy grail as Supper's Ready. It's not religion we're talking about here, it's still just music.

    Oh as for that linked review in the opening post: if anybody enjoys reading that kind of reviews I won't keep them from their pleasure; speaking for me I am glad the internet offers lots of different reviews that don't have this patronising cynical attitude. Back in the days before we had the world wide web I found myself dependent on rock encyclopedias written by exactly this type of journalists whenever I just wanted to find out how many albums a band released and what other interesting facts there are about them, there was no way around these "funny" comments that seem to imply we're supposed to hate on every rock band in history. These days we have wikipedia, masses of customer reviews, forums like this one etc. - I don't know about you but I decided a good time ago to quit wasting my time with these "experts" that seem to jack off on their loathing of any good music.

    Always loved that album, the weakest song imho is Get 'em Out By Friday. I must be one of the rare Genesis fans who also loves Time Table, regarding the frowns that song constantly gets. It is one of the beautiful non-epic tracks, I love its atmosphere, the interesting chord changes, the nice intertwining of piano and guitar, the bass lines, the few subtle time signature changes, and Peter's vocals on top of it all, and last not least the nice baroque intro. Also nothing bad to say about Horizons, I still prefer this original version over all of Steve's later recordings. It is a breather on the album and it brings up the mood of a peaceful early dawn before the rush of the day starts.