Posts by FeelItComing

Quote from foxfeeder

Well, That's All is just full of trite stuff like "Just as I thought it was goin' alright
I found out I'm wrong, when I thought I was right" & "I could leave, but I won't go
Though my heart might tell me so" - Hardly Cole Porter, is it? And I've discussed NSOM before, but some here don't seem to see the contradiction of lines like "Well the key to my survival Was never in much doubt" & "Soon I was living with the fear everyday Of what might happen that night" with "Soon I'd have to face the facts We'd have to sit down and talk it over And that would mean going back". Why? He's clearly scum, and his continuing attitude is one of blaming the son. For what? Leaving when it was unsafe to stay? I just find the whole song unrealistic, he'd never choose to put himself through it all over again. It's a song that sounds like it started out with a good idea, but lost it's way, or never really had one.

Sometimes with abusive parents despite what they do, YOU feel the guilt.

As for That's All to some extent it's a bit of a lighthearted Genesis version of the Face Value songs, I think.

Word Of Mouth, meanwhile, is just bland.

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For me it is the opposite, at least for bands that excel at live performance. Studio versions are often recorded before a song has truly time to gel with many band performances. After lots of touring, the artist gains confidence in the way they want to deliver the song.

I completely understand that. It's weird. Though I love seeing bands live I am not a great fan of live albums.

For me it is extremely rare for a live version of a song to be superior to the studio version. That is just how I am (the only song I can think of at the moment where I prefer the live version is Solid Rock by Dire Straits). So studio version it is.

Outstanding. I wish I'd seen it. But then I wish I'd seen them, full stop.

Outstanding. I think it's brillant and I am someone who doesn't know Fish/Marillion at all.

Bill Bailey last night - because we were front row we got to help him recreate the drum break from ITAT (which he called 'the greatest drum solo of all time'' - I'm not sure it's long enough to be classed as a solo). He tossed out some balls which had been configured to play drum beats (he did explain it but I didn't really understand) and we each had to tap out the solo. I was first and I initially got it wrong by tapping once instead of twice - so much for me. Absolutely hilarious.

Uh.... it is getting EVEN worse than I thought.

Trump education secretary hopeful floats national mandate to require Bibles in school classrooms

I have read about what this guy, Ryan Walters, has imposed on Oklahoma.

That such a person could even vaguely be in contention for Education Secretary is chilling.

Matt Gaetz - Attorney General

Tulsi Gabbard - Director of National Intelligence

A Fox News presenter for Secretary of Defence

This is what Trump has to say about Gaetz:

t is my Great Honor to announce that Congressman Matt Gaetz, of Florida, is hereby nominated to be The Attorney General of the United States. Matt is a deeply gifted and tenacious attorney, trained at the William & Mary College of Law, who has distinguished himself in Congress through his focus on achieving desperately needed reform at the Department of Justice. Few issues in America are more important than ending the partisan Weaponization of our Justice System. Matt will end Weaponized Government, protect our Borders, dismantle Criminal Organizations and restore Americans’ badly-shattered Faith and Confidence in the Justice Department. On the House Judiciary Committee, which performs oversight of DOJ, Matt played a key role in defeating the Russia, Russia, Russia Hoax, and exposing alarming and systemic Government Corruption and Weaponization. He is a Champion for the Constitution and the Rule of Law…

I predict Marjorie Taylor Greene for Education - although wait.... that will be abolished.

Wow. The Manning Bar is Sydney University's bar/venue. I have never actually been to a gig there. What would he play? I assume some Mechanics - I am not familiar with his solo work.

OK. This is something which has bothered me for some time. I can probably answer my own question but.... Rael is Puerto Rican. Shouldn't his brother's name be Juan, not John? And yes, John is easier to sing, I know.

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Not sure how blocking sales of Chinese EV's hurts the consumer (who shouldn't even want to be buying them, but as the US election proves, people care about no-one but themselves, short term.)

I hope Zelenskyy asked Musk why he was helping Russia.

OK - blocking sales is a bit different from imposing huge tariffs on them!

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The Heather Cox Richardson posts make scary reading, sure enough. Couple of observations: Tariffs against China: I'm all for that. We shouldn't be buying (or manufacturing, eh Dyson?) from such a potential enemy. Would we have bought from Nazi Germany? Hungary: The logical response for the EU would be to eject them, but as we saw during the Brexit "negotiations" they are more concerned about their potential loss of members then ANYTHING ELSE! No doubt Ursula Van Der Layen will continue to ponce about in her pastel trouser suits, achieving nothing. (And apologies to FeelItComing, that's not misogyny, she would still be useless if she were a man, many feel the same including members of her own party. And you're right, there's no "left" in the US, more like centre right in any other country.)

As an aside, while Trump winning is very upsetting, the fact Musk is involved is even worse, in my mind. Buying from him is worse than buying from China, IMO. Think of the electricity we could generate by hooking up a dynamo to Nikola Tesla's remains, cos h must be turning at about 5000000rpm in his grave, knowing his name is on those pieces of cr@p.

Tariffs hurt nobody except the consumer.

Musk was on Trump's phone call to Zelenskyy.

Quote from Backdrifter

I disagree. Well, I think I do, as you seem to be saying that misogynistic views are fuelled by "progressives" calling out misogyny, causing the people holding those views to feel alienated. Please correct me if I've misunderstood you.

For progressives I would say people with decent reasonable views rightly calling out vile attitudes. There might possibly be a small number of men who attain those attitudes because of what those people say, but you then have to ask why they take that course rather than considering that they - oh I don't know - shouldn't be misogynists.

As part of trump's campaign he said Harris progressed in her career by granting sexual favours and if elected would be a "playtoy" for male world leaders. This slur immediately became a repeated fact by his supporters, including his campaign team. He called Nancy Pelosi a bitch, and laughingly encouraged attendees at a rally to repeat it. He joked how interesting it would be to throw Harris into a boxing ring with Mike Tyson. At his MSG rally he laughed as a speaker said Harris was "a prostitute controlled by pimps". Vance said liberal female leaders were "miserable childless cat ladies." Tucker Carlson said all this sort of stuff was simply trump being like "an angry father showing tough love to a bad little girl." Conservative youth organisation Turning Point said wives who vote for Harris "undermine their husbands."

Following trump's victory white nationalist & outspoken misogynist podcaster Nick Fuentes tweeted "Your body, MY choice, forever" in a distortion of the "MY body, MY choice" female reproductive rights slogan. (EDIT 1: since the election there's been a surge of reports by women on social media that they're having Fuentes's twisted version posted at them).

There's way more of this stuff just from the election campaign alone. I don't believe any of the above comes from alienation, but rather from enabling of already entrenched views, causing those who hold them to feel they now have a green light to freely express them. Imagine young boys absorbing all this, by osmosis given it's in the air and directly from fathers, older brothers, other male elders with these views. In the UK alone, schoolgirls increasingly cite overt sexism towards them from boys enabled by easy access to porn and the toxic views of scumbags like Fuentes and Andrew Tate with huge followings. What hope is there?

EDIT 2: I focused on the misogyny issue but I agree there is a broad set of reasons why trump won so comfortably.

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Yes, that's good. I don't know what I was trying to say earlier. I was going down the 'stop making excuses' path.

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Who's constantly gone on about those things and why is misogyny in sneery-sounding quotes?

Nobody on this forum, but media like the Guardian.

Our mistake was to think we lived in a better country than we do | Rebecca Solnit

Americans will be stuck cleaning up after Maga’s destructive streak because men like this never clean up after themselves

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I agree with the basic thrust of this, but while progressives keep demonising these people as being misogynist and full of toxic masculinity, they continue to alienate them, and they (conservatives) win. I have even seen suggestions that women no longer be allowed to vote.

Here I am proving the Guardian's point! Woman complains about misogyny! All I am trying to say is that progressives will never get anywhere until they give these alienated people something they can believe in, otherwise they will continue to turn to people like Trump & Farage.

It's just a knee jerk reaction as to what went wrong, and that is part of what went wrong - not all of it, by a long shot.

I don't know where to start, so I will just say that whatever remains of 'the left' in the US, which barely had a 'left' anyway, is dead. Because constantly going on about 'misogyny' and identity politics does not galvanise people who don't care about those things. It alienates them.

The US at its core has always had an authoritarian impulse. The presidency is far too powerful for those of us who are used to the Westminster system and its cabinet government. Trump himself may be elected, but now we will also have unelected power hungry zealots like Musk and Kennedy riding roughshod over legislation, Congress, anything that gets in their way. A compliant Supreme Court. Both houses of Congress at Trump's beck & call.. Rampant gerrymandering and voter suppression. That is just the start.

Let's hope my generation, or any generation, will put it right today. That's all. I'm not optimistic.

But the stuff about people ' not being heard' - Trump didn't hear them either. He used them. All he ever cared about was himself and cutting taxes for millionaires.

Congo should have been the song with the punch, and its good, but it doesn't quite get there.

FGTR reminds me of the Bee Gees (who I love) too much. It just isn't distinctive enough. I do like CAS after having been resistant to it at first.

Nirvana had a relatively small output. I don't see how they could rank so high. I'm surprised by Rush too.

But the OP didn't ask who you liked, but who was most popular worldwide. Nowadays Taylor Swift cannot be left out, and I would add Harry Styles but he's gone very quiet.