Posts by DJL

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    We Fly So Close may indeed be one of his most underrated tracks, such as Both Sides as an album. When the album came out many years ago, I was in a really strange mood. My frist longer relationship didn't work anymore and I wasn't too pleased with my job situation either. Some family issues on top and I found myself in a strange mixture of frustration, lack of hope and looking for the right way. Both Sides had this special "down" feeling and it quickly reached my emotions. I will always like this album, but I would never say it's his "best" record. It may be his most important record for me.

    Although I can't complete relate to your situation, I was also going through some crappy stuff in my life in the last year and found solace in the Both Sides album. I was listening to it a lot to help ease some of the hardships that were going on. I now put this album on the same level as another dark album that was always helpful to ease the challenges of life, Eric Clapton's Pilgrim album. Not sure if anyone here ever listened to it, but it is definitely a different style EC. And yet the lyrics and especially the music, like Both Sides hit me in many ways with the crap that was going on in my life.

    I agree that the melody to me is absolutely beautiful. The lyrics are confusing though in some ways and unclear, but I could definitely listen to this song over and over without a problem. Is it fair to say that he probably used a synthesizer to get the Spanish style guitar since I understood he played all the instruments on the album?? I agree it's a shame he did not consider doing it live. I'm a huge fan of the Both Sides album but only came to appreciate so much in this last year. This song as well as I've Forgotten Everything to me are amazing pieces. I only found out recently that he apparently did I've Forgotten Everything live a few times I guess at the beginning of the Both Sides tour?? I have never heard it live and its not on YT either. Makes me wonder why it was not included on the Both Sides extended cd that had live cuts from the album? I guess he also did Can't Find My Way live too? But returning on topic yes I'm amazed that it was never considered as part of the tour setlist.

    I was watching Serious Hits Live and noticed something odd. During Another Day In Paradise performance, there is clearly a moment where Phil's eyes are open and another angle fades in but his eyes are closed and clearly does not match the previous angle. Just made me wonder is the show only from Berlin or were other shows recorded that make up the concert? Or is the song Another Day in Paradise cut and incomplete?


    I found the youtube clip that I'm referring to for other's to review and saved it at the spot where the inconsistency is:

    https://youtu.be/73EIVlekmXE?t=292

    Check out and let me know what you think.

    This is an awesome collection of songs you put together.


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    Getting Better and For No One are two of my favourite Paul songs. I like the curious detachment of For No One, unusual for him. But the lovely rising-falling melody is very typical.

    I'm a huge fan of both of these especially For No One. It's a song that to me you think is played too fast and yet when I have heard Paul sing it slower it doesn't do the justice as the original version does for me. The French horn blows the song out of the water in my opinion! It amazes me that Paul played most of the instruments on that song besides Ringo I believe on drums and of course the French Horn.


    Finally you can never go wrong with these songs:

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    Golden Slumbers

    Carry That Weight

    The End

    In My Life

    GS/CTW/TE to me are just the most amazing melodies! To me the drum/guitar solos on The End are so impressive because everyone had a chance to really take a stab at a killer solo and to me it really worked! I know Phil recorded it years later I guess with George Martin helping but I still think The Beatles' version is one that stands on its own and I don't think can ever be topped!

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    'm not sure. I have a collection of magazines in the loft (no, not those sort of magazines!), lovingly kept in good condition. I must speak with Christian and see if there's any way these things can photocopied and then uploaded onto the main site. The Q magazine had a great interview with Phil as well as the review and also ten questions that he had to answer (like "when did you last punch someone").

    That sounds awesome! If you are able to find them and able to share that would be so cool.


    One other question I was thinking about and couldn't remember Phil addressing it in his autobiography, but how is his daughter's relationship with him after all of this? Do they still talk? Did she like the song Survivor or feel it was upsetting for her?

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    Yes, the review in Q magazine at the time also presumed it was about Jill, describing the sentiment as "dutiful" rather than sincere. Overall, the magazine gave the album a good review (they described I've Forgotten Everything as "nearly perfect" if I remembr rightly), they just didn't like the political/social stance on some of the lyrics, describing Phil as "not a naturally political cove".

    Very interesting. Do you know if this article from Q magazine is available to review online? Thanks again.

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    Survivors was written for his daughter Lily. I think if you re-listen to the song, knowing who it was written for, the lyrics will make a lot of sense in the context of what was happening in Phil's life at the time.

    Thank you so much for the insight. I really never considered that and will listen to the song again. I think the line "Please forgive me" I just assumed was to Jill but that is really interesting.

    So this song was a big song for my wife and I when we were dating and became really our song. I was super bummed to hear that Phil admitted in an interview that I heard that he really did not like doing the song at all :( LOL. So was just curious if this is just another Phil Collins love song and not big deal or if people here liked it. Sorry if I'm being laughed at by half the members on the board LOL I totally get it LOL but enjoy the song hence my avatar lol

    Hey everyone!


    I just joined and was interested in reading the reviews of other members and their favorite solo albums. So many interesting perspectives and after reading these four pages, I feel like listening to some of his albums I have not listened to in awhile. The two albums I voted for were Face Value and Both Sides. I know a few months ago I would not have picked Both Sides. But some major life changes occurred and I felt more reflective and I guess even sad and recalled this album being more supportive. So I put Both Sides on and listened again.


    I'll say this that I remember when Both Sides came out in the 1990s and in all honesty I enjoyed Phil Collins music off and on when he was really big. Both Sides of the Story was a song and video I remember seeing on VH-1 and MTV and sort of remember Everyday. But really I felt like Both Sides ended my interest in him until "I Can't Stop Loving You" came out and gave him another chance. I was only 12 when Both Sides came out and I think was closer to college or in college when I Can't Stop Loving You came out I believe?? Anyway when Phil started his campaign for remastering and re-releasing his albums I started opening myself to his music much more. I'm a huge vinyl fan and I bought Face Value for sure as well as But Seriously which to me is one of his best albums and would have been my vote. I remember I also bought the extended vinyl version of The Singles which I listened to non stop and got much more interested in the HIMBG album. I have always enjoyed But Seriously... Live as well which I had on cd and eventually got on the recent re-release version. Currently I have The Singles, Face Value, HIMBG, NJR, But Seriously, But Seriously Live, and Both Sides. I have listened to the extended versions of these albums through Spotify and have enjoyed the extra live tracks he included. But I guess for me I kind of gave up after Both Sides and can tolerate the songs on The Singles album that included material from Dance into the light, Testify, and Goin' Back. But I can't seem to convince myself that these albums are worth purchasing on vinyl. I welcome and have read reasons for why I need to reconsider these albums!


    Anyway enough with that... back to Both Sides. So I'll be honest I always liked Can't Turn Back the Years and got to see Phil live in Boston a couple years ago where I was impressed he actually did this song. Sadly many people got up and left but I really sat there and took it all in as he tried to sing it the best he could. Listening to the first side of Both Sides I loved and I liked We Wait and Wonder. The rest of the album I didn't give much of a chance until recently. As I said with some life changing situations that occurred, I listened more to side 2 of record 1 of Both Sides and really got intrigued with I've Forgotten Everything as well as Can't Find My Way. Although the lyrics as some have mentioned are well odd and awkward for me, the music is what fascinates me. I totally agree with some who said it would have been amazing to see how these songs would have sounded much fuller with a bigger band. But I really enjoy those two musically. Similarly, I really enjoy musically "We Fly So Close". I don't understand the song at all but I really enjoy the music. I read his autobiography and understand all the crap he was dealing with at the time and thus the reason for all the down songs. I heard in an interview that he was thinking of calling the album Blue but chose not to because of the Joni Mitchell similarly titled album. So this album has been on my turntable a lot during this month and just enjoying the music in comparison to the lyrics.


    I'll just throw this out there to see what people's opinions are or what they know exactly. Is the song Everyday more about the relationship he had with the girl he loved from high school?? Also was Survivor written for his second wife Jill? Because of the amount of listening to Both Sides, I have googled and found different things on YouTube which include live shows from that tour and intrigued as to why Phil performed Everyday for some of the tour and dropped it and did Can't Turn Back the Years instead? Just curious if anyone knows much about that as well.


    Thanks for letting me share about how Both Sides has moved up in being played frequently in my home and of course voting for Face Value.