Yes, I am grateful to have this forum when so many are closing down these days - thank you.

Just listening to track with Steve, The Sorcerer's Apprentice as we speak - it's an all accompanying Disneyesque soundscape I could well imagine Steve producing on one of his own albums.

Thanks for the extra info Sir Ralph and Jonathan.

Who knows, the track could have been Ant's 'In The Air Tonight' with mega worldwide success!

What an untapped plethora of talent the members of Genesis past and present possess!

Well I never knew this!

Tears On The Ballroom Floor - Bucks Fizz - Anthony Phillips Composer:

Tears on the Ballroom Floor

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Pale young lovers

Dancing hand in hand

As the local band

Plays the final tune
Sad young lovers

Hold each other tight

For they know the night

Will be over soon
Two young lovers

Dancing hand in hand

Why they have to part

They don’t understand
Midnight

They don’t see the coloured

Streamers shimmerin’ down

Midnight

And it’s time to say goodbye

To the wrong side of town

Midnight

And in the crowd

Two anxious faces watch the door

And there are

Tears, tears on the ballroom floor
Pale young dreamers

Hold each other close

They don’t hear the sound

They are on their own
Sad young dreamers

Hold each other near

There is no-one else

They are on their own

Midnight

They don’t see the coloured

Streamers shimmerin’ down

Midnight

And it’s time to say goodbye

To the wrong side of town

Midnight

And in the crowd

Two anxious faces watch the door

And there are

Tears, tears on the ballroom floor
As these final moments descend

Vow their love will never end
And sad young dreamers

As the music plays

Now we have to go

Separate ways
Midnight

They don’t see the coloured

Streamers shimmerin’ down

Midnight

And it’s time to say goodbye

To the wrong side of town

Midnight

And in the crowd

Two anxious faces watch the door

And there are

Tears, tears on the ballroom floor
And there are tears

Tears on the ballroom floor

Wishing they don’t have to say goodbye

Tears, tears on the ballroom floor
And there are tears

Tears on the ballroom floor

Wishing they don’t have to say goodbye

Tears, tears on the ballroom floor

Songwriters: Anthony Edwin Phillips / Roy Hill
Tears on the Ballroom Floor lyrics © Anthony Phillips Prod. Ltd., BMG VM MUSIC LTD

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I've seen Steve Hackett twice live and each time I was absolutely blown away.

I could clearly see why Genesis who contained so many talented and gifted members had to thin out and end up with just three in the band.

I don't think one band could eternally contain all the songwriting and playing talent that Genesis possessed.

Even Ant Phillips, who has achieved only relatively modest commercial success is an outstanding artist whose complete catalogue repays in spades any time and effort spent collecting and listening to.

I would love to see Mike and Ant work together again, if only on a small project or song, but I think Mike has explained he doesn't write that type of music anymore.

I do apologise - I've just realised Anto Drennan had a crack

at it to back in 1998 in Poland I think his solo

starts around 1:20 into this youtube clip:

Anto Drennan Plays Firth Of Fifth around 1:20

Can't believe I forgot that - surely that's everyone from Genesis that's attempted it live now?

Just discovered the same solo a few days later in Dresden:

MIKE + THE MECHANICS live in Dresden: Mike Rutherford introduced & Firth Of Fifth excerpt

Really impressed that Mike attempted that - never thought I would see anyone except Steve and Daryl playing it from the Genesis camp.

Only just heard this. Different from Steve, Daryl, Mike has his own unique style:

mike and the mechanics firth of fifth - excerpt 2019

I think Mike mentioned in his memoir that Eddie Van Halen came to see Genesis play live and and arranged a jam with Mike that did not come off for some reason???

Peter Gabriels childhood home and his grandfather's home too - or is that too far away?

Sorry to hear Alan is not here - but thank you for the link.

Cheers

Gaz

Seems ages since we've had an update on the latest issue with a link - is one due?

Does Big Al post on this forum?

Cheers

Baz

Yes, I think I remember Mike Rutherford politely saying that Peter had got a bit sidetracked with the XPlora - Although I can't imagine that would put Peter off releasing an 'Xplora Plethora' edition at some point during the century - notice I didn't say which century...

Thank you for the info guys - Peter seems to take on so many ideas/projects that he invariably cannot finish/complete them.

Can understand why Dan locked him in a cupboard during So!

Peter Gabriel - Ovo: the lost solo version

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Chappell is also preparing material for producer Stephen Hague, who is working on a revamped version of Ovo, with Gabriel singing all the songs, which is to be released later this year in the US as a genuine Gabriel solo record. A remix album, which will see people like Tricky and Trent Reznor having a go at various tracks from Up, is also expected in the shops towards the end of the year.

Published May 2003

https://www.soundonsound.com/p…l-recording-peter-gabriel

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I was rootling around the interwebs looking for information about Peter Gabriel's recording sessions and I found this article featuring an interview with engineer Richard Chappell in Sound On Sound: http://www.soundonsound.com/so…icles/gabrielchappell.asp

There's chat about tech which, to be honest, didn't interest me much but right at the bottom of the article (dated May 2003) there's this little tidbit, which surprised me:

"Chappell is also preparing material for producer Stephen Hague, who is working on a revamped version of Ovo, with Gabriel singing all the songs, which is to be released later this year in the US as a genuine Gabriel solo record."

(There was further talk of "a remix album, which will see people like Tricky and Trent Reznor having a go at various tracks from Up, is also expected in the shops towards the end of the year. On top of all this, after the European and second American legs of the Growing Up tour in the spring and summer, Chappell and Gabriel intend to complete the follow-up to Up, tentatively titled I/O and based on material from the same sessions as Up. It is scheduled to be out some time in 2004". Oh the things we've missed out on...)

Anyways, I know Ovo was greeted with mixed reactions when it came out and I, for one, was disappointed at the lack of vocal action from our hero. I wonder whether anybody would now, so many years later, be interested in a Gabriel-only version of Ovo. I know I would.

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Is this one of those Gabriel things that is never likely to happen?

I was told this album was so bad and not worth a listen by older, wiser Genesis aficionados when I was young, that of course I wanted to seek it out for myself and listen to it.

My friend taped it for me and couldn't even be bothered to write out the track listing for me, instead getting his sister, who I fancied like crazy and still keep in touch with even today to do it for him.

I still have the cassette with her lovely elegant writing on it.

One day, many years later when we were both older, we hooked up together after many, too many years apart, so the line 'She looks at me and gently smiles as if she knew I'd ask her all the time.' has always had a special significance for us both.

Yes, the album is not Genesis at their best, but they were only young lads doing their best and giving it a damn good go against all odds.

It definitely is their first album and I find some of the lyrics still resonate with me after all this time no matter how young, naive and inexperienced the fledgling band were at the time.

The album caught me at a similar age to the guys when the they wrote it, so maybe that makes me a little more forgiving and tolerant to this oft overlooked recording.

A good song from Steve. I gave it 11/15 which seems to be a popular score.

Regarding Steve's vocals, for me they seem to have improved over the years.

I remember Chris Squire saying he wasn't aware that Steve sang before they did the Squackett album together - love the singing on the track 'Aliens' on that release.

Would love to hear Steve and Ant attempt a song together utilising both their guitar skills and vocal harmonies.

Yes, would love to read those posts if possible??

Rick did a great job - I would love to see him conduct a musical interview with any member of the band about the technical composition of the music.

Love this track. Genesis were, and still are about seventeen years older than me.

They seemed so worldly wise, well read and knowledgeable about mythology, literature and with this song the ways of love..

Whilst there was I - still fumbling around and hadn't yet gone 'beyond the silver rainbow'..

And yes, they were indeed right..when I eventually got there I found that yes, 'you won't know if your coming or going'...

I always envied them their older, more mature worldly wisdom, so it saddens me now to see them all growing older..