My Spotify Americana and Swamp Rock mix, featuring The Band and CCR
Posts by MoonlitKnight
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Just a heads up that the tribute band “Abacab” will be playing at The Milton Theater in Milton, Delaware on May 30th. This will be my first time seeing them live but their uploads on YouTube are very impressive. One upload is an entire Seconds Out concert. In another their setlist spans both the Peter and Phil eras as well solo works by PG and PC. They also have a separate clip of them performing Abacab featuring top flight guitar work at the end. Looking forward to the show!
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I missed it! My wife and I have been dealing with Covid. They do put on a helluva concert. Looking forward to catching them next time they are in Philly.
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Cinema Show/Aisles (I refuse to separate them! Lol)
Firth of Fifth
Dancing with the Moonlit Knight -
That could be. Even so, it’s strange that it never emerged publicly in some form as a Genesis song in the 2 years between the Shapes album and the first M&TM albums.
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A superb track list, though I do wish more live performances of songs from the W&W album had been included. My main issue with this album is Dave Henschel’s production. It feels like he sucked a lot of the edginess out of the live performances. The background babbling before the beginning of Squonk is bizarre, and it would help the live feel of the performances if the cuts that begin some of the other sides (i.e. Firth of Fifth and Cinema Show) have audience noise (as in cheering!) before the music begins.
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It has some very good tracks that I genuinely enjoy, including all of Side One and It’s Gonna Get Better as the album closer. Overall, however, it feels to me like an album that was driven in part by a desire to continue to build the band’s popular momentum after the success of Phil’s solo albums. To me the fact that it is the only Genesis album that produced no b-sides is telling. It seems like the band did just enough to be able to release an album.
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“Safety in Numbers,” by Crack the Sky. They were Baltimore’s proggy champs back in the late 70s-early 80s.
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Among the most famous:
OutKast (yes, them!) sampling Dancing with the Moonlit Knight
Prodigy (the rapper, not the band) sampling Firth of Fifth in a song called Genesis!
I think Enigma sampled some Genesis beats.
So I admit to being completely clueless about these styles of music. It’s easy to hear Firth of Fifth in the one song. Where is DWTMK sampled in the other song? Is it the drums?
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My favorite album by Tony. My favorite tracks include This Is Love, And the Wheels Keep Turning, and Charm. I also quite like TB’s voice. To me it’s got a sort of Al Stewart vibe to it. To my American ear it’s a very “British” style of singing. From what I’ve read Phil suggested that Tony sing the lead on Silver Rainbow, but Tony declined. Given the sound of Tony’s voice on The Fugitive I think singing lead on Silver Rainbow would have worked well.
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I've been listening to my Van Morrison albums in the car. He just is not a 'car' artist. Some of the later albums with tracks that go on forever with his self-indulgent vocalising have not aged well. He is best when he keeps it simple (which tells you that yes, I prefer Moondance to Astral Weeks). His recent anti vaxxer political stance has not helped my opinion of him.
I have the live version of “Caravan” from The Last Waltz on the playlist I listen to while mowing the lawn. It’s freakin’ awesome. And for some reason it just occurred to me I probably should have “I Know What I Like” on that playlist too. I guess it’s so on the nose I forgot about it lol.
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And as I think you and I said before, there's that ludicrous opening sound of people chatting - terrible start to a live album. Did the crowd have to duplicate that on the Hackett SO tour?!
What do we think of the Archive 1 Lamb show version? Obviously there's the vocal overdub to bear in mind. It bothers me a little that the 'lamb' of "And the lamb...." lead line is so much shorter than on the album. Anyone know of any other good recordings of it from the Lamb tour?
I wonder what folks think of the rearranged version they played on the 1982 tour as an encore that transitioned directly into Watcher of the Skies? Personally I liked it, but I know the rearranged jazz-rock intro and outro to The Lamb may be off-putting to some.
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(Which bit counts as spoken word?)
In addition to the above notes on piano and vocal I'd add in the crunchy growling bass which I love and is among my favourite of Rutherford's work. I've heard others say that's something they don't like! Always interesting how fans differ - eg I'll never understand the preference some have for the lighter, skippier Seconds Out version which I find too fey and way inferior to the chunky slightly menacing original.
I also like the vocal harmonies on the title phrase, and the solid drumming. Hackett seems distant on this track but his characteristic subtle touch is there in the mid section.
I suppose you could say this track gives the album a much better opening than the ending. Its 'looming' feel seems to preface the arrival of the huge cloud soon to engulf Rael and start his strange adventure. It's a nice scene-setter, giving us a picture of NYC into which the protagonist steps and we immediately get a sense of who he is with his spraypaint can. Whereas it leaves us hanging somewhat.
I like that it was such a frequent feature of their live set and was surprised and pleased with the 'lounge' version on the final tour.
Banks said it was the last song he and Gabriel sat down to write together. In that sense it marks the closing of the key partnership they established at school, so it was fitting it featured in the band's final outing.
I think the Seconds Out version suffers from DH's propensity as a producer to take all the sharp edges off. The whole album (Seconds Out) sounds to me like it was recorded in a giant empty room, rather than a full arena.
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Glad you clarified on Don McLean. You know you're getting old when your first thought is "Wait . . . what? The guy who did "Miss American Pie" is playing keyboards for Peter?
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Good song, but I'd have liked it more if the album version ended like the live version. The fade out in this song just doesn't work for me.
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I've seen their SEBTP and Black Shows a few times before! I'd been hoping they'd eventually do another "Lamb" show... so glad I was able to see it!
Hopefully they aren't really fully retiring The Lamb tour. It's a fantastic show and keeps a good variety going in terms of their rotation of tours. Take the Lamb out of the touring mix and they're basically reduced to SEBTP and Foxtrot, along with the occasional Extravaganza tour. Actually the first time I saw them they were doing the Nursery Cryme Tour at Upper Darby. They were excellent but the show was very short (a little under 90 minutes). I probably would not pay to see that show again.
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Fantastic show last night at the Keswick.This is the 4th time I’ve seen TMB perform The Lamb tour, and last night’s show was the best yet. They definitely are a must see!
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I love this song. Along with Dodo it was my favorite on Abacab. As others have pointed out, it is absolutely amazing how many different feels and grooves Tony packed into a 6 minute song. I remember the first time I listened to the album and heard Me and Sarah Jane thinking "This is like nothing I've ever heard before." Up until that point the only other Genesis album I owned was ATTWT, which quite honestly I was not terribly fond of. Me and Sarah Jane and Dodo inspired me to dive deeper into the Genesis catalog. 10 months later I was singling along to Supper's Ready at the Merriweather Post show on the Encore Tour.
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Feeding the Fire (Changed album title):
Side One:
Tonight, Tonight, Tonight
Land of Confusion
Throwing It All Away
The Brazilian
Side Two:
Domino I & II
In Too Deep
Feeding the Fire
Do the Neurotic