Posts by seven-eight

Quote from foxfeeder

So what you're saying is, he invented the mobile phone?

Something like that! 😁

All I know is that he did the GWF on the segway at the show I went to in June 2003. Not sure if that was considered the Still Growing Up tour at that point? Can't quite remember that... I do remember much of the show pretty well though. The phone he used for Come Talk to Me came loose from the booth while he was singing so he had to kind of improvise with it. Pretty funny to see!

Quote from YouMightRecall

Im no professional musician, but I presume they could transpose his keyboard on the fly, so he could play it in the same key, but it would sound a semitone or two lower

Yup, covered that above 😉

I always figured the pros would relearn the parts without going the transpose route but if that option is available I guess why not use it.

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I don't think he has to relearn it in a new key. He can play in the original key and use a setting on his keyboard to transpose the key down. I think that's what he did on the 2007 tour - he looks like he is playing in the original key even though the song has been lowered.

Ah okay, I never really looked that closely at any videos from 2007 to see that he used the transpose setting. I just assumed he painfully learned everything in a new key. Much easier that way for sure. In that case he should be all set!

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ASAEIE is actually quite challenging to sing too - sustained and fairly high notes. Might be possible if they key the whole thing down a 3rd or more. If they do that, then Apocalypse might come more into range as well.

That might work for singing it, but poor Tony would have the task of relearning that solo in a new key 😳 Not that he hasn't done it before on In The Cage for example, but that could be a heavier lift.

Quote from thefarmer

Thank you . I misread your post . ( Thought it was odd I hadn't heard of of a GWF tour!). I have s poor memory for detail but was certain about that. It's not on the Growing Up DVD which was shot in Milan and I saw it at NEC in Brum .

I didn't word my post very well so I could see the confusion, though a Games Without Frontiers tour could be interesting haha!

Yeah, I saw the Growing Up tour twice. The first time he didn't do GWF, and the second one which was a different leg of the tour he did. Not sure which leg of the tour the Milan show was offhand.

Quote from thefarmer

Yes a Segway. That what they're called. I remember the Brian Pern stuff. When I watched that it brought back that memory. But I'm certain it was Growing Up , I didn't go to Games Without Frontiers tour.

Sorry I meant he rode it during the song Games Without Frontiers on the Growing Up tour. This is what I was able to find on youtube:

I did see him ride a segway during Games Without Frontiers during that tour. Maybe that is what you are thinking of?

Quote from Backdrifter

I think TKOL is actually good, it was interesting as I found I had to work at it for a while, which made me think about how we are sometimes attuned to instant gratification and can lose sight of how some things reveal their attractions gradually which was very much the case for me with this album.

I agree about the percussive emphasis and the indefinable feel to many of the songs. There's something oddly skewed about Little By Little, and Codex has a wonderful sort of other-worldly feel. Separator is one of their absolute best ever tracks in my view, a top 10 one. In a way it mirrors my experience with the album, starting a little inconspicuously, maybe even a bit dry but slowly opening up and by the closing parts it's a thing of beauty.

Bloom is interesting as I don't like it on the album but absolutely loved it on stage. In fact, the two shows I saw on that tour may be the very best ones I've seen of the 30 or so gigs of theirs I've been to. The extra (non-album) tracks they released around that time feature some good ones too such as Staircase, The Butcher and The Daily Mail.

I was irritated by the inclusion of True Love Waits on AMSP. I don't mind the song but felt that after featuring quite a few times at the end of gigs it had sort of had its time, if that makes sense. It appearing on an album a decade after they stopped playing it live felt like a cop-out. But I understand fans' affection for it and it is quite an atmospheric rendition, but I'd rather have had another completely new offering in its place.

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Totally agree about the instant gratification comment, especially as it relates to music. I find that sometimes if I like an album straightaway I am suspicious that perhaps I won't like it in the long run, whereas something a little harder to crack might lead me to think it's worth the effort. Hasn't happened with AMSP, but who knows if there is still something there for me.

I do love Separator as well, and it might be my favorite on the album. The guitar riff about midway through, coupled with the atmospheric synths and Thom Yorkes vocals at the end make it a big Radiohead moment for me.

On True Love Waits, I kind of consider it like a bonus song at the end, not even really part of the album if I think about it. It did feel a bit silly that it finally got a release, but since I feel that version surpasses the original, I guess I'm ok with it being there.

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That's interesting that you enjoyed AMSP. I think it combines some of their established elements into a gentler overall sound. I've heard quite a few non-fans say they enjoyed it. Similarly many kind of came back to or discovered them via In Rainbows, which was a much warmer album for them at the time - it's my personal favourite along with The Bends and would be my suggestion for a way in if you don't already know it.

Some felt they then returned to being somewhat cold and unapproachable with the next album, The King of Limbs. While I'm a huge fan of them, I do understand why many find them aloof and inaccessible.

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I would agree that In Rainbows is probably the best way into the world of Radiohead. It combines a lot of their elements into one album without being difficult to access.

That's a good question. I haven't seen pictures of these musicians on stage with them anywhere I've looked either, and I have much less of a chance not being from Australia myself.

Your Cloud - Tori Amos

Three Ships - Jon Anderson

Cut My Hair - The Who

Steve McQueen - M83

Light My Fire - The Doors

Even in the dark, and the rain falls on my window sill - This Is Love (TB)

It seems that this sort of disinterest in trying to meet the other side half way is tied in with both the popularisation of 24 hour news networks and social media/internet. Before then you could escape the news a lot easier if you wanted and there wasn't as much an outlet for everyday people's views. Now people find the news from the precise source and political slant they want, and find the groups online to backup whatever their political leaning is. It has created a kind of pack mentality on both sides.

I don't see a way back from this poisonous political atmosphere without some major reforms of people's mentality and ability to reach across and have a reasonable discussion and understanding. I can only hope that some shift like that happens because social media and cable news certainly aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

Back In NYC - Genesis

Sad Stephen's Song - Duncan Sheik