Posts by jwckauman

I'm all for Ant's stuff getting remastered too!! It's just odd that Ant is getting attention but not Tony. Cherry Red does great work, btw.

I became a fan of the band too late to get the box sets (now out of print). does anyone expect another round of reissues? Maybe an ultimate box set of EVERYTHING??? Or should I start hitting ebay?

BTW, did the new FGTR release (titled '50 Years Ago' I think) provide us with anything new or different?

songs produced by Max Martin. I love me some slick sugary sweet pop and Max Martin is one of the best at writing/producing that kind of music (e.g. Taylor Swift, Ariana Grande). also listening to other pop producers like Greg Kurstin (Sia, Beck), Ryan Tedder (OneRepublic), Chris Braide (Downes Braide Association), and Guy Sigsworth (Bjork, Alanis Morrisette, Kate Havnevik).

Thank you Serpent! That is very enlightening. BTW, does this tape exist these days in any form? Anyone find it (or a copy at least?)

as it stands now, here is how i'm ordering all the pre-FGTR demos/recordings. For those songs that an actual date isn't listed, I just picked one out of thin air (to help with sorting).

Am I missing anything?

Thank you Meryman. This confirms what I have in my "ultimate Genesis song" spreadsheet.

1. Arent there notes somwhere that say Patricia was an "Easter 1967" demo, while She is Beautiful and Try a Little Sadness were Summer 1967 demos? Makes them seem like they were recorded in different sessions.

2. I'd love to get precise dates for those demos tagged as "Easter 1967", "Summer 1967", "Autumn 1967" and "Early 1968". But i'm happy to at least have those date ranges. Helps with listening in order.

3. are there two additional versions of "Image Blown Out"? I have listed a "rough mix from 1968" and a "demo' version (with no date).

4. Anyone know the actual date for the August 1968 rough mixes? I'm being greedy of course.

I just responded to the twitter feed for Cherry Red, thanking them for another Anthony Phillips release (which we should be grateful) and asking about Tony again. They've got to be able to work something out. Tony needs to be realistic about the fan base, and Cherry Red needs to respect that a Tony release is a little more involved and has a wider fanbase than an Anthony release. Both sides need to come to the middle and work this out.

Christian, thank you for your interview. That was very enlightening. I think it said that a few of the releases were already DONE!?! That means all we have to do is press some copies and work on the packaging (which was great for the first two albums).

Can anyone think of any other way to get the word out? Who is 'Mark' at Cherry Red, btw?

Does anyone know what the very first recorded song is by the band? I'm not sure where I got this info but I have in my spreadsheets that the song "Patricia" is the very first recording by Genesis. My notes say it was an Easter 1967 demo. Maybe they recorded it during Easter break? I think I got that info from the first Genesis archive boxset. Anyone know more about this song? and if it's the first (that we know of)?

Does anyone have a detailed analysis of the FGTR period in terms of when songs where recorded (including available demo versions)? I'm looking to fill the gap between their very first recording and Trespass.

Great point about "order of recording" (and to that end you could also look at order of writing/composing). I really love listening to music chronologically as it shows the evolution of so many facets of music (composing, arranging, playing, tones/sounds, production, etc.). And when you have a band like Genesis where each member can hold their own, you get to hear the DNA of each member interwoven with other members. For example, I love hearing Peter Gabriel's Intruder with Phil on the drums. It shows where both where at that point in their careers.

What if we made this a joint project among the Genesis fan community? Are there any web-based sites/services where a group can collaborate on content?

Does anyone know if a chronological listing of all Genesis recordings (at the track level) exists anywhere. The closest equivalent of what i'm looking for is the amazing Peter Gabriel Recording Compendium (https://www.genesis-news.com/c…um-Introduction-s597.html).

I'm going to be driving across country in a month and want to listen to all of Genesis' recordings (both group and solo) in chronological order. I have created my own spreadsheet of what i know so far but want to compare it against something else to look for gaps or incorrect dates. Examples of things i'm looking for include cases where one of Genesis' members guests on another song or even demos of songs.

Saw this on the local news.

https://www.facebook.com/iwcva/posts/1889433494410724

Now this song takes on a whole new meaning. Anyone on this board know anything about Giant Hogweed? Or does anyone know what this song is about? Is it about making sure you dont get the sap on your hands lest you burn and go blind!?!

i'm 48 years old, and this is the first song I ever heard by anyone in Genesis that I "recall". I always thought Phil's voice was different than most others. It didn't grab me at first but I liked it enough to remember it. I had it on this K-Tel album "Full Tilt". You can listen here;

So it was my gateway song. Later in life, my cover band played it in a medley of two songs "Misunderstanding" and "Hold the Line" by Toto. It was our 6/8 medley. Later I found out that Phil actually wrote it with Hold the Line in mind as he liked that 6/8 feel.

I also read that Phil wrote "Misunderstanding" during his first divorce period. It was after "And Then There Were Three", right? And he tried to go salvage his marriage by moving where his wife was, I think. So the band went on hiatus and Mike/Tony wrote their solo albums. But Phil couldn't save his marriage and lived alone where he wrote his songs as therapy. He wrote songs like "in the Air Tonight" and "I MIssed Again" as well as "Misunderstanding". As he was writing like crazy, the band gets back together and everyone shares their songs that would become Duke. Phil claims that he played "In the Air Tonight" as well as "Misunderstanding" but Tony doesn't remember that. Would have been crazy if "Air Tonight" turned out to be a Genesis song.

BTW, if Musical Box does play the east coast, i'd love to get together and meet some Genesis fans. I'll be going by myself as i'm the only one in the family that likes the old stuff. My spouse likes all the newer stuff but is like me 5 years ago and doesn't know that the best stuff is the 70's stuff.

I will definitely drive to see this show. It's lock the mother of all shows! Have you been to their webpage? That "trailer" is goosebump good! Maaann, I cannot believe that Genesis themselves wont' get together and play this music. Even Gabriel has to see how amazing it is and how important it is!

Please tell me this is coming to the USA as well. Looks like I became a Genesis super-fan in the nick of time...

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That is good, thanks for the link. I'm surprised I'm Amazing doesn't feature on there though or am I missing it?

It's sort of encouraging there are demos of new songs supposedly for an album but I'm not holding my breath!

I thought I saw "I'm Amazing" on there on the last page/last section.

Can I just say how amazingly brilliant the Peter Gabriel Recording Compendium is by Steffen Gerlach. Here is a sample (last section): https://www.genesis-news.com/c…mber-next-Album-s634.html

As a new fan hungry to find everything by all Genesis musicians (together and apart), this was exactly what I needed. Of course, now I want to be greedy and to get someone to do the same for the rest of the band. Pretty please? How about if we fund it a little bit?

Thank you Steffen. Bless you!!

I didn't know Phil played with Tears for Fears. Had to go look that up. Sure enough. He comes in halfway through Woman in Chains. HA! I've never seen a "half-song" credit. Wiki says that he was brought in to give the song a jolt halfway through (ala In the Air Tonight).