Tony Banks in 2023: "One of my favorite tracks was On the Shoreline, which I was very keen to have on the album. A lot of people liked it. One of Mike’s children thought it was fantastic, and yet, Mike came back and said he didn’t want it on the album. Phil also didn’t want it. Being a democracy, we didn’t have it on, and we ended up having a couple of pretty weak tracks on there — Way of the World and Since I Lost You could well have not been included. On the Shoreline is a really strong track, and I think it could have been a hit."
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There is no info about the mix so I doubt they changed it.
I doubt it, too. Probably would never have even occurred to "them". Besides, what about CCs99?
Incidentally, at least one retailer (in the UK) is selling the CD for £5. (Seems to be "standard" price everywhere else.) And Amazon in the US is declaring a clear vinyl edition "exclusive". Whether it is or not, the price of $35 puts the UK (and elsewhere?) price - whether clear or black - in the shade.
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Indeed. I'm surprised it wouldn't have some sort of "incentive," in the way of certain material exclusive to the boxset. Otherwise, it's just simply buying all of the release formats. If I wanted that I'd just have done it.
To each their own I guess.
It does have an "incentive": book and poster (in addition to the box itself). I'm not justifying it; just pointing out the "extras" aren't musical.
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I think Peter will continue with new music in April or May, so I hope he'll do that and hasn't changed his mind.
What makes you think that? Didn't he say he was going to take several months off this year to focus on family and other matters?
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Found it. It's The Roxy, 17 December 1973, late show. I've answered my own thread.
That show has just received a legal-but-unofficial CD release (as with so many others), under the title Horizons. Usual crappy cover but the sound quality is reported as excellent. (I've not received my copy yet.)
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It surpriuses me they have put out ALL remaining three Full Stretch tracks at once ...
Guilt?
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I notice that John Silver's Wikipedia entry just gives his birthdate as "1950." Is there a source for his actual birthdate that could be used as a citation for correcting this?
Mario Giammetti's 1967-1975 book. (Page 22.) Born in Oxford.
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No surprises as to what's been added to "catch up". I was hoping for another of the early demos, but not to be. For now.
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Can you show us the "Live (Italy)" cover, and maybe some reissues of FGTR? (You can skip the FGTR one that anachronistically shows Peter in the flower costume!)
Here's the Italian Live. The "other" FGTR I was thinking of is the Japanese edition with Gabriel as Britannia on the cover.
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Then Jerico - Big Area (split across front/back covers)
No-Man - Swagger
Genesis - Live (Italy) plus several reissues of FGTR
Immediately spring to mind.
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That's not especially pedantic, in fact thanks for reminding me about the original Lamb pressing. My brother had that pressing and your note has triggered my memory of seeing it in that title form. But I remember it as (per the Seconds Out listing) Crawl - did you mean 'singular' as in The Carpet Crawler? Or is that me now being pedantic?!
When you say Collins dropped the opening verse, do you literally mean he brought about that idea? I recall Banks saying they decided to go from "...cover the floor" as they thought the opening section felt too separate and the live rendition was more satisfyingly consistent without it. He made it seem like a group decision but it's interesting to suggest it originated with PC.
I heard a recording of PC trying out the song in its entirety including the opening section, possibly ahead of a tour. It might've been a link posted on the previous board. It sounded a bit rickety, like he was struggling with those opening verses, which might've been a reason he steered them to dropping that bit.
Apologies for being unclear on a couple of points. I meant "singular" simply as a single "crawl" as opposed to multiple crawlers. And I referred to Collins dropping the verse as a shorthand most would understand and normally refer to: I have no doubt it was a group decision. And the full version with Collins singing was included in a Capital Radio interview with Nicky Horne.
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...BBC 6 Music occasionally plays album tracks, most often Guy Garvey of Elbow who has a very good Sunday afternoon show. As mentioned earlier in this thread he's known for quite often playing the Seconds Out version of Carpet Crawlers, in fact he's so devoted to it he refers to it as 'Carpet Crawl' as per the original cover.
<Pedant Alert> The original UK Lamb vinyl names the track in the singular on its sleeve. It has been named inconsistently throughout its life. (Contrary to the "suggestion" often proposed that its in the singular on Seconds Out owing to Collins dropping the opening verse.)
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Now delayed until 26 April.
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The new album by Onar Rodriguez Lopez (is It The Clouds) is quite stunning.
(He is the guitarist from The Mars Volta)
As I found it really good, I checked his previous work and was quite confused. In 2017 he released 10 (!) albums. So if anyone has a suggestion where to start, that would be wonderful …
I've always liked his Bosnian Rainbows album. More "commercial" with female vocals.
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Here is a message from author Mark Bell:
Mark Bell is currently looking for an English native speaker to check his translation of the Foxtrot-Book. It's rather about style and wording than spelling. Ideal would - for instance be - an (active or retired) English teacher.
In case you are interested (or know someone who might be interested) you can directly get in contact with Mark via albumage@posteo.de
Hmmm...
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I didn’t know that Strictly Inc performed live at the BBC.
External Content youtu.beContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.Apologies I'd never brought this to your attention before. I thought it was widely known about. (Well, within the context of Banks fans.)
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This is the classic "reference book".
"...the classic"? Now, assuming your term is as a result of (mis)translation, that makes me curious about how you arrived at the English language version of this volume.
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#13 in the UK in week 2. The only surprise is that it wasn't lower.
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Oh, what fun we had at that pre-internet time dealing with that "first six albums" statement.
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Having bought the Tarka album upon release (I see the official website dates this as 31 October 1988) I was unaware of the accompanying single which according to the discogs website followed in November. (It would be good to know the precise date.)
Although the CD single has been fairly easy to acquire over the years, the 7" in picture sleeve has been harder to come by - at least at a reasonable price. I was disappointed in 1989 when I ordered a copy via mail order. Unfortunately, it transpired it had sold out and I was sent a copy of the Australian (non-picture sleeve) 7" which had been released there that year.
As an aside, that Australian copy is something of an oddity. The only other country in which it was released and yet the album didn't come out there. Perhaps the single was an attempt to test the water to see if a release of the album was viable. 45cat (which unusually doesn't list the UK single at all) gives a release date for this of 3 July 1989. Amusingly, discogs has a copy with a handwritten date on it: the 31st of June. Presumably, Monday 3 July is accurate.
Anyway, I have finally filled the long-held gap in my collection with a copy of the UK 7". Any comments providing any further information or clarification on any of the foregoing would be most welcome.
EDIT: UK single release date established as 21 November 1988.
