I confess that I don't care much about cover bands (I've seen one or two), but I'm not against it, now I want to hear the full Wembley Arena 1975 show(oficial recording).
I want the Original band Genesis, not a cover band with a pathetic vocalist with a horrible voice.
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I'm pretty sure that given no more than an hour of the Empire Pool show have appeared that the full tapes have long since been wiped.
Kate Bush, Before The Dawn
Ten years ago I attended one of the best shows I ever heard. I am celebrating this anniversary by listening to this album.
Coincidentally, the first Before The Dawn show I saw was 10 years ago today. And I similarly played one of the 3 discs from the release earlier.
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Was it the original he played, not JB's rather overpraised cover? Either way, did they bleep out the 'shit'?
Not the first time he's played a Lamb track. A few years back he did a concept album theme show and played Anyway.
TR is of course a former PG collaborator.
Original. And no, no bleep. It was Buckley's cover which first got me into him. Not quite sure how Grace passed me by at the time.
Tom Robinson on BBC Radio 6 Music has just played Back In NYC as part of his two-hour Jeff Buckley special. (His weekly themed "Now Playing" show.)
Now, I wonder who could possibly have prompted him to do so...
...Another set of cryptic lyrics is Abacab. The band itself explained that at the time they tended to write lyrics that sounded good rather than having any sense, but these ones are particularly obscure.
Mike Rutherford in 1982: "Some melody has got to come from key phrases in the song and the lyrics tend to come from that. The Abacab sessions were different only in that the band stuck with the melodies in the instrumental tracks and didn't try to write a great lyric and a great melody, which often screws it up because there isn't room for a great instrumental and another great melody on top. Take the title track on Abacab. I did the melody and lyrics for that and the backing track was so damned good that our main objective was not to get in the way of it."
Rutherford again in 2007: "I wrote the lyrics. They're ok but not great, but the title is quite fun."
...On a tangent, I've also heard it suggested that Banks and Hackett each wrote the lyrics to songs for which the music is attributed to them, Lamia and Supernatural Anaesthetist respectively but I've never seen any solid attribution for that. It feels possible with Anaesthetist but Lamia seems unlikely to be solely Banks if only on the basis I can't imagine him coming up with the 'chocolate fingers' line.
According to Banks (in 2011) The Lamia lyrics were most certainly Gabriel's. Indeed, the Giammetti source where this is quoted asserts that The Light Dies Down was the only lyric on the album which wasn't by Gabriel.
Addendum: thanks to a very kind fan, I've now heard the audience recording from Glasgow, 9th April 1976. As sure as eggs is eggs, it is the source of the performance included on Seconds Out. Having wondered about this for years, I'm so happy — not a bad result in only a couple of days! Thank you everyone that got in touch 🤗
PS by inference this means that the "Cinema Show - Part 2" footage on the "Genesis - In Concert 1976" film is from the Stafford gig. So ultimately we were right not to rule out Glasgow based on the film content 🙌
Just for clarification, it's fairly easy to establish the different recordings of the film. Collins wears a different shirt across the two nights. Combined with the considerable height of the Glasgow stage makes it a straightforward affair.
Hmmm. I’ve got photos from Twickenham and I walked there from some distance away. Maybe the weather was up and down and maybe the memory cheats a little. Either way I enjoyed it a great deal.
I was at Wembley 87 but I was young and miles away from the stage. Great atmosphere though
Just listen to the recording of the show and Collins's reference to the "effing rain". Not for the only time of that tour, of course. (Hence the "Come Rain Or Shine" titling of the accompanying documentary.)
Atmosphere CDs by/with Ant? These are (almost) all there! Did you use the link in our library special? The only difference is that they use f.e. ATMOS080 instead of ATMOS CD-80.
I wonder if these library CDs even had a specific release date back in the day. When I look at the posted promo sheet of English/World Film & Drama, there is no release date mentioned.
I looked for several of the Ant ones I have, Steffen. I'd previously followed links from your Compendium but this was the first time I'd seen this search facility. But like you suggest, I have always strongly doubted there are specific "release dates" for these things. That said, I have adopted the date you previously quoted for Eccentrics as its anniversary. I cannot recall why I did so.
This is a list of the releases where my research has turned up a date that differs from those given on the website here. For my part, the release dates were those offered by the respective labels on their websites; e.g. dates for the Atmosphere releases are those found on https://www.universalproductionmusic.com/ and were collated at the time when I was doing my research. Some of the discrepancies are only by a day and it might be that the release dates differ in differing territories. I cannot claim that my data is more accurate because I don't really know and I have commented elsewhere that the dates given by the Atmosphere label must be viewed with caution.
It might be the case that the labels have reviewed their data and made corrections since I was researching these releases.
I offer this data in the spirit of simply sharing information. Steffen did an immense amount of work and was able to fill in many gaps in my knowledge.
I am watching this thread with great interest - and not a little hope. Yet with apologies if I'm missing something (obvious) but I am confused by that link to the Universal site. I have used it to search for a random selection of my Atmosphere CDs and it found none of them. I deliberately chose ones from later in the catalogue, but drew a complete blank.
Oh, and as an aside, I know the release dates for these don't necessarily conform to industry - retail - norms, but looking at the 2005 calendar (ref: separate comment regarding Soundscapes 2) I see that the stated dates fall on a Friday and a Wednesday of their respective months. However, neither day of the week fits in with when retail releases appeared that year. I was really just watching out for a weekend date of warning.
Beloved Summer, surely? 
(Working title for It's Yourself.)
I went to all three of the final nights in London 2022 - and while it was incredibly emotional objectively it wasn't the best gig. Twickenham 2007 was probably best - partly because I had such good seats and it was a lovely summer evening. I did a few gigs in 92 as well but I think the 07 setlist was better (as were my seats).
I've seen Gabriel a number of times but Earls Court 93 was absolutely phenomenal - an incredible concert. I've done Collins and Mike a few times too but Gabriel 93 and Genesis 07 are the ones I really remember.
It was bleak, chilly and rainy at Twickenham. It was the preceding night at Manchester which was the sunny and warm one.
I didn't really enjoy the shows I saw on the 2007 tour. For me, the band shows which stand out are:
Paris 87 (indoors)
Wembley 87 (especially the final night)
Newport 92
Royal Albert Hall 92 (not a venue for which I particularly care, but it's the only time they played there and was a special show - originally planned as the final date of the tour)
Cardiff 98 (especially the second night).
I do agree about Gabriel at EC in 93: both marvellous. Also, the 4 dates there in 87. Seeing Bush on the third show - almost - made up for missing Genesis in Leeds that night.
Comments like this always mystify me a bit - you think that Naxos wouldn't have done the tiniest bit of research to conclude that enough people will buy it to justify the cost of producing it?
Also, it's £22 which seems pretty good value for three albums.
Given the first two albums initially retailed at little more than £5 (not unusual for this type of release), I think £22 is very expensive for a reissue package of this sort. In fact, when I first saw it on sale it was £34. And with the absence of any additional material such as the demos which were included on A Chord Too Far, I agree with the initial comment that I cannot believe there will be much of a market for this. I will be looking to pick it up for no more than £15 down the line, purely for collection purposes and the title/artwork variation.
I’ve always been a big fan of listening through discographies from start to finish. I feel like that is the most enjoyable way to listen to music. I do that with movies and tv shows as well. Go from end to end. I’m a bit of a completist.
Can one be "a bit of a completist"? Pedantry aside, in the case of Genesis there will always be those who avoid - at least - FGTR and CAS. I find that a rather pleasing constriction of the bookends. For what it's worth, I find it more rewarding to play in anniversary date order. (Whilst having to tuck in FGTR by other anniversaries, owing to the uncertainty over its release date. (I play half of the total content between Greenslade's birth and death dates.))
The new Villagers album is just outstanding. I love this band, despite a few average releases. The last one was okay. But this is really stunning.
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I'm keen to hear this. I saw Villagers supporting Elbow on the last tour I could bear to see them and was impressed. Bought Jackal on the back of that but whilst continuing to keep an eye (ear) on O'Brien's output have not been tempted to indulge further. Until this one.
Tony Banks in 2023: "One of my favorite tracks was On the Shoreline, which I was very keen to have on the album. A lot of people liked it. One of Mike’s children thought it was fantastic, and yet, Mike came back and said he didn’t want it on the album. Phil also didn’t want it. Being a democracy, we didn’t have it on, and we ended up having a couple of pretty weak tracks on there — Way of the World and Since I Lost You could well have not been included. On the Shoreline is a really strong track, and I think it could have been a hit."
There is no info about the mix so I doubt they changed it.
I doubt it, too. Probably would never have even occurred to "them". Besides, what about CCs99?
Incidentally, at least one retailer (in the UK) is selling the CD for £5. (Seems to be "standard" price everywhere else.) And Amazon in the US is declaring a clear vinyl edition "exclusive". Whether it is or not, the price of $35 puts the UK (and elsewhere?) price - whether clear or black - in the shade.
Indeed. I'm surprised it wouldn't have some sort of "incentive," in the way of certain material exclusive to the boxset. Otherwise, it's just simply buying all of the release formats. If I wanted that I'd just have done it.
To each their own I guess.
It does have an "incentive": book and poster (in addition to the box itself). I'm not justifying it; just pointing out the "extras" aren't musical.
I think Peter will continue with new music in April or May, so I hope he'll do that and hasn't changed his mind.
What makes you think that? Didn't he say he was going to take several months off this year to focus on family and other matters?
Found it. It's The Roxy, 17 December 1973, late show. I've answered my own thread.
That show has just received a legal-but-unofficial CD release (as with so many others), under the title Horizons. Usual crappy cover but the sound quality is reported as excellent. (I've not received my copy yet.)
