Probably Mama which started the shows on the Invisible Touch tour. It created such a strong atmosphere.
Posts by StillCan'tDance
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With the storyline that Peter came up with, the music had to be different.
I've never been entirely sure at which point during the making of the album that Peter came up with the story. Was it before or after he left to work with Friedkin?
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Never A Time - Mike Rutherford
Dreaming While You Sleep - Mike Rutherford
Feeding The Fire - Tony Banks
On The Shoreline - Tony Banks
Feeding The Fire - Tony Banks
Living Forever - Tony Banks
Anything She Does - Tony Banks
Just A Job To Do - Mike Rutherford
Illegal Alien - Mike Rutherford
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There is also an interview out there where Hackett indicates that he used a piece that his brother John had written for a section of "Get 'Em Out by Friday" - sorry I can't find it now, but I think it was the "after all this time they ask us to leave" bit. Other than that, I want to say that the waltz that takes up most of the second half sounds like Banks chords, and Gabriel must have written the lyrics at the very least. Whether Rutherford and Collins contributed anything, though, I couldn't say.
Get Em Out By Friday has been cited in several books as being rescued from "the bin" thanks to Phil's contributions to the arrangement. Lyrically, it's Peter's lyric, inspired by some problems he was experiencing at the time with his landlord.
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He must have been joking. I recall reading that the lyrics to I&O are by Mike, and that there wasn't a Genesis song where Phil wrote all the lyrics until ATTWT.
I don't ever remember reading that Mike wrote the lyrics to Inside And Out. Steve has recently confirmed it was Phil who wrote the lyrics to that song. Phil also wrote the lyrics to Match Of The Day which is on the same EP. Pigeons is by Mike.
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I've never done a compilation and I've never been tempted to but it's always interesting to read other fans' preferred lists. Regarding the intro to The Colony Of Slippermen, are we talking about Arrival (ie "Boppity-bop I wandered lonely as a cloud...") or the so-called Chinese jam that appears at the start of Side Four of the album? Either way, I love both and regard neither as being especially controversial.
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Michael Parkinson was always the best that Britain had to offer. Other than him, I always loved Johnny Carson. I was big fan of David Letterman, too.
I'm still struggling to identify exactly why James Corden is successful. I don't discern any talent there at all.
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It looks more like the Pope meeting Peter Gabriel. And does anyone have the telephone number for the dark-haired beauty on Peter's right?
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That section from "Stagnation" (i.e., the song from Trespass you were referring to) pops up on many future tours too. It's funny - people would readily identify that section as being quintessentially "Genesis" but also may not be able to say where it is from in their catalogue!
There's a lovely moment on the When In Rome DVD where Phil turns the mike toward the crowd during that bit as they sing along. He gives an appreciative nod, acknowledging the long-standing love between Genesis and Italy.
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Great question.
Afterglow would always be top of my list because it has the double drums playing the lick from More Trouble Every Day. The version from Three Sides Live has some great bass lines from Mike so, yes, that would be my preferred version of that song.
The Lady Lies from the second Archive box set trumps the studio version. Not only does Phil have more fun with the lyrics but there's an extended jam at the end where the band simply play their socks off. A great showcase for Daryl's playing.
Eleventh Earl Of Mar from the And Then There Were Three tour has a beautiful coda at the end of the song played by Daryl and Tony. Chester also comes up with drum licks that aren't on the original that, in Tony's words, really make the song "swing".
It's Gonna Get Better from the second Archive box set not only features the extra verses but also Daryl plays a sublime guitar solo at the end while Phil improvises some vocals. Just beautiful.
Home By The Sea from the Invisible Series box set as recorded on the Invisible Touch tour. There's a brilliant bah-wump effect as the song kicks in and Mike's guitar solo during the instrumental section is so powerful, almost Gilmour-esque in parts.
Hold On My Heart from The Way We Walk. I love Phil's vocals during the extended play-out of this song, so soulful.
Land Of Confusion from The Way We Walk. I love the new vocal lines in this song.
Supper's Ready from Seconds Out. I've always preferred Phil's singing of this song but this has the added attraction of the double drums during the Apocalypse In 9/8 section. On the Nick Davis remix you can hear someone screaming with delight when Phil announces the song.
Firth Of Fifth from The Way We Walk. I'm a big fan of what Daryl does in Genesis and I think he totally transforms this solo into something new. I know this issue is divisive for a lot of fans but my first love is jazz fusion so Daryl's reinvention of this solo is right up my street.
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Do You Know, Do You Care ... such an incredible big wave of sound - created by Phil and Daryl only.
Oh, that is a mighty song! A lot of space in that tune and, wow, those drums! There's some stuff on that album that gets overlooked probably because it either was never played live (as in Do You Know, Do You Care) or it never made it past the first tour.
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I find Us and Up over-produced.
Yes, he does have a tendency to overdo things to the point where the spirit of the song is in danger of being lost. Sky Blue, my favourite song from UP, was in gestation for over ten years. It does not take ten years to make a song!
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Unfortunately, our favorite band isn't exactly famous for having the greatest variability at live concerts. It took me a long time to notice any differences between individual concerts on the same tour and often from different tours (and the differences were nevertheless rather marginal - apart from the sound quality and the technical issues).
So I think it was more of a hunter-gatherer phenomenon that made me collect live shows than that I was actually a "fan" of these performances. Now that we have reached a stage where no new recordings have appeared for years, my interest has waned considerably.
Whereas I can easily hear the differences between, say, Home By The Sea from the Mama, Invisible Touch and We Can't Dance tours. And actually find that I'm collecting more bootlegs these days than when I started back in the early nineties. True, Genesis did not vary the approach to songs from show to show on a specific tour but that was ever thus. The definitive version of the song was, as far as they were concerned, the one that ended up on the album and so they simply tried to replicate that in a live context.
It was only once Daryl and Chester joined that there started to be some significant differences between the studio and live versions - the appropriation of the More Trouble Every Day lick in Afterglow, for example, or the guitar solos in The Lady Lies and Jesus He Knows Me - because both of those musicians came from a jazz fusion background.
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If it is Alan Hewitt then you would assume the publisher would want the world to know.
Not if they wanted to sell many copies
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Gotta say, your "attitude" over the last few days on here has not endeared you to me, your avatar seems to fit you pretty well. Since you seem to think you have a monopoly on being right, might I suggest a listen to Billy Joel's "Shades of Grey" And perhaps a little thought for others opinions before hitting the "send" button?
I think you can block users on here, you know. Just hit that button and you won't have to be upset by any more of my posts.
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Earl's Court, June 1977. Spent the night on the pavement outside to get front row tickets when the box office opened. Sat right in front of Steve.
Steve was watching the show, too?!
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That sounds like a good idea!
I can imagine Easy Lover to fit wonderfully onto the album. And There's Something Going On too.
Yes, they do! Here's the tracklist:
01 Sussudio (extended remix)*
02 Only You Know And I Know (extended remix)*
03 Long Long Way To Go
04 I Don't Wanna Know (extended)
05 One More Night (extended remix)**
06 I Like The Way
07 Easy Lover (extended remix)*
08 Don't Lose My Number (extended remix)**
09 Who Said I Would
10 Doesn't Anybody Stay Together Anymore (extended)
11 There's Something Going On
12 Inside Out (extended)
13 Separate Lives
14 Take Me Home (extended remix)**
15 We Said Hello Goodbye
The Nick Davis remix was used in addition to the mixes by *John Potoker and **Hugh Padgham. Mixes were made using Audacity and mastered on a BOSS 1600 recording studio.
The Nick Davis remix of No Jacket Required is available from all good stockists while 12ers can be found on eBay. The 12 inch remix of Easy Lover is freely available on http://burningtheground.net/
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I just realised I clicked US and I meant UP! What a putz.
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On the Mama Tour video, if I remember correctly, PC jokingly (and in a terrible accent) introduces it as a "country & western song".
Yes, he did that on quite a few shows on that tour. Certainly he said it on all the bootlegs I've heard.
Funny story about that Mama tour video. There's someone in the audience who shouts out for In The Cage and Phil has a bit of banter with him. I have a bootleg recorded the following night and the same fella is in the crowd, shouting out for In The Cage again prompting Phil to say "You were 'ere last night".
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I did say 'in my view'. I completely agree with your comments about Thru These Walls. Regarding Both Sides, I know that I should like it more than I do because I know how personal it is. I do agree that it doesn't try to be accessible. I just can't make myself prefer it to the first few albums. I wasn't aware you knew Phil. Respect!
Crikey, I don't know him! No, he did an online Q&A some years back and I had the opportunity to ask him about the song. Sorry, I didn't mean to imply I knew the fella. I wish!
I can fully understand some fans not liking Both Sides. It divided the fanbase back in the day and the subsequent revelations about his marriage breakup saw him lose some fans. A watershed album, for sure.
