Well more fool me to coin a phrase. I no longer have my Face Value LP, but my CD for whatever reason doesn't include the Behind The Lines lyrics - only the songwriting credit.
Really? Maybe it was just on the vinyl? Idk I don’t own either edition. Wikipedia says that it was Mike. Perhaps a little bit of bull has been going around. Was it really Mike? I think I need an interview snippet now because now I’m confused.
Oh and good luck! This will be incredible I’m sure of it!
This is a quest that has been lingering for long since I came on this board. We all know that the ARP Pro Soloist was the first synth used by Genesis on Selling England By The Pound. There was another synth used on The Lamb though. The Elka Rhapsody 610 Synthesizer, best recognizable as the synth that Supertramp used the most. Today we will start with the Lamb as we identify the synths used on each song (songs without synths will be excluded like the title track). This will continue until we reach either Invisible Touch or We Can’t Dance.
I’ll start it off
Fly On A Windshield has the Pro Soloist
And the first question: Eno was involved and credited with Enossification. Was this just treatments? Was the VCS 3 used on In The Cage & The Grand Parade of Lifeless Packaging?
Blimey, calm down mate! No-one's forcing us to figure it out. 😉
Ah you’re right. I mean, we the people will walk in stride as we combine our knowledge and brain power to figure it out, like how More Fool Me was Collins / Rutherford & how Steve literally said himself that Mike wrote the second part of After The Ordeal in a YouTube video while he wrote the first.
Getting back briefly to the original topic of the thread: I think we can all agree that it would be interesting to know what individual credits for Genesis songs from the Gabriel era would have been. Well, many years ago I read an interview where Tony said he was actually pushing for individual credits as far back as FOXTROT.
...Then, many years later, he turns around and claims (in the notes for GENESIS ARCHIVE 1967-75) that the group credit was used "because that's the way it was" -- an obvious lie, especially in regards to the shorter songs. Go figure.
Well I mean I would understand why Tony would push for individual credits. He simply wanted people to know who wrote what correctly. And yet, because of that, we have this mess where we’re trying to figure out who actually wrote the songs in the Gabriel era. Who would’ve guessed that the lyrics in Firth Of Fifth were Banks’ & Rutherford’s on first listen?
I’d say it was a smart move removing that starting with A Trick Of The Tail (but it slowly took over by Abacab so what was the point).
!!! Tony with CS-80 at 8:54!
I guess it doesn't matter but why 'Banks' and not ' Tony'?
I don’t know. It was more convenient for me I guess. Oh well. 
Behind The Lines was written after a negative review in Melody Maker of their Knebworth concert. Given that Phil re-recorded the song for Face Value, I would have assumed the lyrics to be his, but earilier in the thread it's claimed that Mike wrote them.
Well on the solo album the lyrics are credited to Mike it would seem. So that is that I guess.
Oop the b-sides.
On The Shoreline - lyrics: Banks
Hearts On Fire - lyrics: Phil
We Can’t Dance:
No Son Of Mine - lyrics: Phil
Jesus He Knows Me - lyrics: Phil
Driving The Last Spike - lyrics: Phil
I Can’t Dance - lyrics: Phil
Never A Time - lyrics: Mike
Dreaming While You Sleep - lyrics: Mike
Tell Me Why - lyrics: Phil
Living Forever - lyrics: Banks
Hold On My Heart - lyrics: Phil
Way Of The World - lyrics: Mike
Since I Lost You - lyrics: Phil
Fading Lights - lyrics: Banks
There are also disputes over musical credits for this song (such as Hold On My Heart, which was allegedly Phil’s lyrics set to Tony’s music, idk)
Wow. Classics one and all I'd say.
A decent showing from Rush on there! I'm not sure what my top 10 would have been then. But on 13/11/81 I was about 5 weeks away from seeing Genesis for the first time, (NEC 23/12/81) and my listening habits were never the same afterwards!
Not meaning to change the subject but I just realized that you’re on record as an audience member for some of the performances on 3 Sides Live! How must that have felt?
Heck those are all great picks! Nice! 
Unfortunately the sources redirected to a newspaper that requires subscription, but at least there’s a source.
I didn't know that, I've always thought the lyrics were Mike's.
I think it said that on Wikipedia but I’m not sure if there was a link backing it up, I’ll have to check. Phil was using the phrase “going down like a monkey” a lot, which is why the working title was Monkey/Zulu.
Hey that’s another similarity! Both use the word bastard!
Say, when is the next trivia session? I liked this, being it’s the first one I participated in.
People hate Robbery? :o
I honestly think it’s one of my favorites. It’s got some complicated parts and the humor is pretty good.
I’ve got some admiration for Epping as well, but I kinda lean more over to the Robbery spectrum.
Just to get the obvious out of the way for Invisible Touch:
Invisible Touch - lyrics: Phil
Tonight Tonight Tonight - lyrics: Phil
Land Of Confusion - lyrics: Mike
In Too Deep - lyrics: Phil
Anything She Does - lyrics: Banks
Domino - lyrics: Banks
Throwing It All Away - lyrics: Mike
The Brazilian - instrumental, primarily a Banks composition based on a sample of Phil & Mike jamming
Do the Neurotic - instrumental
Feeding The Fire - lyrics: Banks
I’d Rather Be You- lyrics: Phil
Oh that’s right! Genesis was one of the investors of Monty Python and the Holy Grail because the manager encouraged them since some of the early records were on Charisma records, which Genesis were in!
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